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Is Jamie Drysdale considered the #1 D man available? He might be a nice add if we miss out on Hughes/ Kakko/Dach or Cozens.
For next year he is he is 2020 eligible, not 2019.
Is Jamie Drysdale considered the #1 D man available? He might be a nice add if we miss out on Hughes/ Kakko/Dach or Cozens.
Cholowski will be the better defenseman. And really has shown it thus far in comparison. Similar points in the same amount of games played all the while playing on a way worse team coming into an unexpected role. Hopefully he keeps it up next year.
But sure, go ahead and be bitter that Holland picked a guy you didn’t want, yet has come out to be potentially better.
Makes sense. Really.
Edit: You like JC more, fine, but don’t pretend he’s any better than Cholowski. Because he simply is not.
That's why Karlsson is the only guy I want from free agency. He'll probably still be a number 1 defenseman in our window. Obviously it's not likely but you've got to take a chance when the opportunity comes around.Draft or free agency are the only ways. Teams rarely, if ever trade number one defenseman.
Uhhmm, Karlsson?Draft or free agency are the only ways. Teams rarely, if ever trade number one defenseman.
From Hockey Reference...
Dennis Cholowski:
GP: 52
G: 7
A: 9
P: 16
+/-: -20
TOI: 18:15
CF%: 49.6
OZS%: 61
Jakob Chychrun:
GP: 52
G: 5
A: 15
P: 20
+/-: -14
CF%: 50.2
OZS%: 54.2
Chychrun is better but not by much. Later in their careers it's still up in the air who will be better. Ultimately we'll win the trade because we'll have gotten 2 top 4 guys and they'll have gotten 1.
I said rarely. Did you read that part. It's not the norm....Uhhmm, Karlsson?
Red Wings also traded their #1D (in terms of TOI), Nick Jensen, lol.
I read the part that said "rarely, if ever" if that's what you're talking about. The "if ever" part caught my eye, thought it was funny because it happened this season.I said rarely. Did you read that part. It's not the norm....
Except that assumes with one pick they go with the dumpster fire that is Smith. Can't call it anything unless you know how it would have played out. Also, while nice, you should try other sources, because HR doesn't factor in quality of competition of HD chances into their stats, both of which JC wins. Cholo might score as many or slightly more points in his career, but Chychrun is going to be the better defender.
It’s so early to judge Cholowski at the NHL level because he really wasn’t ready for it. Naturally the more matured player in Chychrun is going to be the better NHL player, but I think the point Nick was making is the Wings also acquired pick #53 and selected Filip Hronek. Who, if you ask me, is recently just as good as Chychrun.
Even if Chychrun develops to be better than Hronek and Cholowski individually, the gaps will be small enough that it’ll going to be near impossible for his value added to be greater than the value added by both of them combined.
If we're gonna go that route and combine the two, then we should factor in salaries and the difference two players salaries added together vs 1 player salary plus money left over to sign anyone else?
If we're gonna go that route and combine the two, then we should factor in salaries and the difference two players salaries added together vs 1 player salary plus money left over to sign anyone else?
Okay thanks.For next year he is he is 2020 eligible, not 2019.
If we're gonna go that route and combine the two, then we should factor in salaries and the difference two players salaries added together vs 1 player salary plus money left over to sign anyone else?
Listen I was not saying chychrun was better at all and I am not whatsoever even thinking about it.
I simply said that if he turns out better but you use the rational cholo plus Hronek added together become better then yes salaries should be factored in
Where, how and on whom you spend the money is trivial as that's a question for future me, but if you want me to make something up then the money saved is the exact amount of extra cap space needed to sign McDavid somehow(yes stupid to speculate)
I will ALWAYS choose the best/better player period over a collection of lesser parts. And again I am not saying that player is Chycrun
Chychrun is better but not by much. Later in their careers it's still up in the air who will be better. Ultimately we'll win the trade because we'll have gotten 2 top 4 guys and they'll have gotten 1.
That's why Karlsson is the only guy I want from free agency. He'll probably still be a number 1 defenseman in our window. Obviously it's not likely but you've got to take a chance when the opportunity comes around.
This just in: "McDavid is more valuable than combination of Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner....ALWAYS"
You mean McDavid and with money saved between marner and Mathews you get drasittil(sp), yup..
I went with Hronek, mostly because I just like his game a bit more than Cholo's. Maybe we sign a #1 through UFA, but I don't think we get a guy a like that. Instead, the Wings will look at a blueline by committee. Sign someone like Gardiner this summer, a similar level player next summer, and build a blueline of guys who are but not great and who all can eat ~20 minutes a night.