Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[bicboi64]

Think we’d regret that contract pretty quick tbh. On top of that 7 million is gonna limit us from doing other things this summer.

Tanev is my ideal choice. I get the risk of it since he’s 35 but he’s still really good and I like the idea of a three year term vs others that we’ll have to commit more money to for longer. Ideally you slide him to the bottom pairing in that final year and you’ve got some time to draft or find a top 4 guy.

Pesce isn't the most physical guy, and can skate well. I'd rather give him $7 million than pay Chabot his salary or extend Chychrun at all. It'd be nice to lock up a legit top4 RD so we can have two of them. I'd rather try to fill holes on the forward lines with ELCs or cheap signings than on the backend. Unless of course the cost of Pesce means we can't get a proper goalie

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Think we’d regret that contract pretty quick tbh. On top of that 7 million is gonna limit us from doing other things this summer.

Tanev is my ideal choice. I get the risk of it since he’s 35 but he’s still really good and I like the idea of a three year term vs others that we’ll have to commit more money to for longer. Ideally you slide him to the bottom pairing in that final year and you’ve got some time to draft or find a top 4 guy.

There's better and cheaper options out there.
Roy, Carrier, Miller, Demelo

 

[PlayOn]

Pesce isn't the most physical guy, and can skate well. I'd rather give him $7 million than pay Chabot his salary or extend Chychrun at all. It'd be nice to lock up a legit top4 RD so we can have two of them. I'd rather try to fill holes on the forward lines with ELCs or cheap signings than on the backend. Unless of course the cost of Pesce means we can't get a proper goalie

I like Pesce a lot, but I’m not a big fan of locking ourselves into guys that are almost 30 for big money at this stage. It would be different if we were in the midst of our window, but he’s likely to have his best days behind him by the time we’re competing.

Plus, you already have Chabot, it’s not like you’re replacing him with Pesce. I understand some want him gone but I don’t think he’s going anywhere and if he did, we’d get back a player most people would probably dislike even more.

There's better and cheaper options out there.
Roy, Carrier, Miller, Demelo

Roy isn’t gonna be cheaper. And I don’t think the other three are better, though I wouldn’t be opposed to Demelo or Carrier if it comes down to it.

 

[bicboi64]

I like Pesce a lot, but I’m not a big fan of locking ourselves into guys that are almost 30 for big money at this stage. It would be different if we were in the midst of our window, but he’s likely to have his best days behind him by the time we’re competing.

Plus, you already have Chabot, it’s not like you’re replacing him with Pesce. I understand some want him gone but I don’t think he’s going anywhere and if he did, we’d get back a player most people would probably dislike even more.

Valid point, but I'm also hoping Chabot is moved this summer. I'd rather take a chance on Branny playing 2LD than keep any of Chabot or Chychrun

 

[BigRig4]

There's better and cheaper options out there.
Roy, Carrier, Miller, Demelo

Love these 4 guys and I'll add Walker

 

[Adele Dazeem]

I like Pesce a lot, but I’m not a big fan of locking ourselves into guys that are almost 30 for big money at this stage. It would be different if we were in the midst of our window, but he’s likely to have his best days behind him by the time we’re competing.

Plus, you already have Chabot, it’s not like you’re replacing him with Pesce. I understand some want him gone but I don’t think he’s going anywhere and if he did, we’d get back a player most people would probably dislike even more.

Roy isn’t gonna be cheaper. And I don’t think the other three are better, though I wouldn’t be opposed to Demelo or Carrier if it comes down to it.

Roy might be more expensive dollar wise, but considering ages the value of the contract will be worth more over time.

 

[Micklebot]

Roy might be more expensive dollar wise, but considering ages the value of the contract will be worth more over time.

They are practically the same age, less than 4 months apart.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

They are practically the same age, less than 4 months apart.

Roy is 29; Tanev 34

 

[Micklebot]

Roy is 29; Tanev 34

Ohh, I thought you were talking about Pesce and Roy, seeing as the post you quoted seemed to mostly revolved around Pesce and never directly mentioned Tanev, I missed that the last para of that quoted post was a response to a Tanev post.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Ohh, I thought you were talking about Pesce and Roy, seeing as the post you quoted seemed to mostly revolved around Pesce and never directly mentioned Tanev, I missed that the last para of that quoted post was a response to a Tanev post.

Yeah, honestly both Pesce and Roy will be a hot commodity. Don't see either choosing Ottawa barring an overpay. Tanev will also have plenty of suitors and apparently wants to go back to Vancouver.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Yeah, honestly both Pesce and Roy will be a hot commodity. Don't see either choosing Ottawa barring an overpay. Tanev will also have plenty of suitors and apparently wants to go back to Vancouver.

Ottawa isn't a desirable destination, but you'll probably be able to sell a top 4 dman that they'll get to play next to either Chabot or Sanderson, and players do consider getting to play with good players when deciding who to play for. A lot of teams better than Ottawa already have set partners for their #1 dman, so the one thing Ottawa can sell is a big opportunity.

 

[Micklebot]

Yeah, honestly both Pesce and Roy will be a hot commodity. Don't see either choosing Ottawa barring an overpay. Tanev will also have plenty of suitors and apparently wants to go back to Vancouver.

Worth pointing out at 29 they may no longer be valuing party nightlife over good place to raise your family. If we're offering a guy with a wife and kids a 6 or 7 year deal, the suburban life might have some appeal where his wife can get a job (maybe continue their career) and they can feel safe about where there kids are.

 

[Duncstar]

Think we’d regret that contract pretty quick tbh. On top of that 7 million is gonna limit us from doing other things this summer.

Tanev is my ideal choice. I get the risk of it since he’s 35 but he’s still really good and I like the idea of a three year term vs others that we’ll have to commit more money to for longer. Ideally you slide him to the bottom pairing in that final year and you’ve got some time to draft or find a top 4 guy.

Apparently he's interested in Vancouver and they like him

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

We are going to get Tanev.

He will try to use us as leverage to get more term somewhere else, but no one will bite.

Winning this year is very important, and he fills a primary need. We will offer him more term without caring about what the third year or whatever will look like because we are desperate to turn things around in the short term and there aren't a lot of options.

Even via trade, we don't have a lot of assets to work with.

 

[Micklebot]

We are going to get Tanev.

He will try to use us as leverage to get more term somewhere else, but no one will bite.

Winning this year is very important, and he fills a primary need. We will offer him more term without caring about what the third year or whatever will look like because we are desperate to turn things around in the short term and there aren't a lot of options.

Even via trade, we don't have a lot of assets to work with.

Tanev is a good short term solution.

I'd love to get a longer term solution like Pesce but if we do end up with Tanev I'm happy.

Sanderson-Tanev
Chabot-Zub
Kleven-Brannstrom/JBD

That seems like a pretty competitive backend (assuming we trade Chychrun to round our other spots). I'm not sold Brannstrom will be back, but we own his rights for now so I've included him.

I could see us going after a vet for the third to fill the role Hamonic was supposed to fill if we move on from Brannstrom


Up front, it sounds like they want someone to push Joseph down to the third line.

Tkachuk-Stu-Giroux
xxx-Pinto-Batherson
Greig-Norris-Joseph
Kelly-Kastelic-Katchouk

I'd like to get a wrecking ball for that 4th line, but I do think they played really well to finish the year, so I also like the idea of rewarding that.

 

[BondraTime]

Really hoping for Carrier. Perfect guy to play 19/20 minutes a night of responsible defensive hockey for a respectable salary.

Very good defensively, very smart. Not a banger, but perfect in a role for a defensively responsible compliment.

I’d much rather get him at a cheaper deal than spend a lot more salary and years to get some of the other guys.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I think Tanev is the play. Not because he's the best, but he's clearly the best looking of the bunch.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Ottawa isn't a desirable destination, but you'll probably be able to sell a top 4 dman that they'll get to play next to either Chabot or Sanderson, and players do consider getting to play with good players when deciding who to play for. A lot of teams better than Ottawa already have set partners for their #1 dman, so the one thing Ottawa can sell is a big opportunity.

Worth pointing out at 29 they may no longer be valuing party nightlife over good place to raise your family. If we're offering a guy with a wife and kids a 6 or 7 year deal, the suburban life might have some appeal where his wife can get a job (maybe continue their career) and they can feel safe about where there kids are.

My post wasn't to dig at Ottawa being an undesirable location, I actually think it's middle of the pack maybe slightly lower.

What I meant was there will be teams who are as good if not better than Ottawa throwing offers at these top free agents.

 

[StoicSensFan]

Might as well bring back CC

 

[Relapsing]

Might as well bring back CC

 

[redbrick98]

Don't thing Tanevs coming , he wants to go back West to Vancouver

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Might as well bring back CC

His last HockeyDB statline was 2014-15. Is he even an active coach anywhere anymore?

 

[redbrick98]

His last HockeyDB statline was 2014-15. Is he even an active coach anywhere anymore?

Another former Sens in Matty Carkner

 

[Micklebot]

His last HockeyDB statline was 2014-15. Is he even an active coach anywhere anymore?

Cory Clouston? He went to coach in Germany then came back as an assistant in kamloops

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Cory Clouston? He went to coach in Germany then came back as an assistant in kamloops

Interesting. I was just looking at this and was curious. Is HockeyDB user updated only or how does it work?

Cory Clouston Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics and Records of Cory Clouston, a hockey player and coach who was active from 1988 to 1993.

www.hockeydb.com