Post-Game Talk: flies

[The Crypto Guy]

I've never seen a player play so good and not be on PP1 in my entire life. Beyond frustrating.

Laf deserves to be on PP1 too.

Are we seriously going to have to wait 2 years for this to happen?

Will gallant look like a total genius if despite this Laf and Kak break out 5v5?

Unfortunately, the only way we see Kakko/Laf on that top unit is if there is an injury.

 

[will1066]

Chytil might be back tomorrow.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Chytil might be back tomorrow.

That would be great. Did he have a full contact practice today?

 

[will1066]

That would be great. Did he have a full contact practice today?

He skated in Mika's spot today, according to Vince.

He's ready for full contact like Van Damme was for the Kumite.

 

[AKrangerfan]

He wasn’t on PP2

He got 1:18 of power play time in yesterdays game. Which unit was he on?

 

[JCProdigy]

Torts was a slave to his philosophies and structures.
Anything to make his feckless reign appear to have purpose.
Six goalie systems did not make us champions. Talent will.

 

[leetch99]

Hayes/DeAngelo didn’t get a point? And the Rangers scored? And the Rangers won?

Plus no Giroux there anymore and they were missing ......Couturier-Van Riemsdyk & Ryan Ellis....I wonder what the score would be with them in the game ? Torts had them mucking .

Kakko plays 18:56 and didn’t look tired at any point. Crazy how quickly things change.

You can see his confidence growing every game.......he is going to be a great player eventually for us hopefully .

 

[leetch99]

He waited a bit too long to get assertive for a big muscled boy fighting for a roster spot IMO.....he has some Kreiderlike yellowness in him....if he can up the physical play a wee bit....he would be a long term lock on the right side for us for many years .

 

[kovazub94]

It's not pretty over there on the Flyers board. Basically calling Torts a fraud and mocking "culture" and "tough to play against."

Really? Flyers basically operates right now with one top-6 line (far from a 1st line quality) and have on their injured reserve an equivalent of another top-6 line. Their D is run of the mill at best. The only saving grace at the moment (surprisingly yet) is Hart.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

So does anyone but me get a kick out of Laf only getting points last year because he converted on A chances and this year he sucks because he's not a guy that can convert on A chances.

 

[Off Sides]

Gauthier only needs like 1867 more regular season, and 295 playoff points.

 

[egelband]

Team Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

Rangers are 26th in PDO

So this implies the rangers are shooting at brick walls AND have been unlucky shooters. Is that correct?

 

[egelband]

He skated in Mika's spot today, according to Vince.

He's ready for full contact like Van Damme was for the Kumite.

 

[Raspewtin]

So this implies the rangers are shooting at brick walls AND have been unlucky shooters. Is that correct?

No, it implies the Rangers are shooting at brick walls and our goalies are not stopping the puck much.

 

[egelband]

No, it implies the Rangers are shooting at brick walls and our goalies are not stopping the puck much.

But it also incorporates shooting percentage, so that’s a matter of luck, too. Or am I misunderstanding?

 

[Raspewtin]

But it also incorporates shooting percentage, so that’s a matter of luck, too. Or am I misunderstanding?

the stat is Team Shooting % + Team SV%. generally, low PDO is "unlucky" and high PDO (well above 1.0) is "lucky". You'd need to look into what's driving the number down.

To me, the Rangers goalies (both of them) have been average this season and their finishing is on-a-nother-planet unlucky. hence, our very low PDO.

historically, dating back to Lundqvist, the Rangers are a high PDO team.

 

[aufheben]

It's not pretty over there on the Flyers board. Basically calling Torts a fraud and mocking "culture" and "tough to play against."

That franchise has got the middle seat on a plane right now. Being hard to beat is probably not ideal.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

the stat is Team Shooting % + Team SV%. generally, low PDO is "unlucky" and high PDO (well above 1.0) is "lucky". You'd need to look into what's driving the number down.

To me, the Rangers goalies (both of them) have been average this season and their finishing is on-a-nother-planet unlucky. hence, our very low PDO.

historically, dating back to Lundqvist, the Rangers are a high PDO team.

I still can't fathom how that stat makes sense. Save percentage and shooting percentage are not correlated in any way. A team that has a 0.920% needs to shoot 8% to have a PDO of 1, another team may have a shooting percentage of 0.910% and would need to shoot 10% to have a PDO of 1. Why is the second team more likely to shoot 10% than the first team? PDO just seems like a made up stat that means very little.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'd care more if people weren't so handwavy about all the bad stuff I see Miller do out there

Don't get me wrong, I love Miller, but going by the eye test and same assessment as Trouba I don't think he's had a great start to the season.

I don't think Trouba is ever worth his contract but to me that's a different argument. In general, he plays fine and he is what he is. The team also needs some of the intangibles he brings on the back end come playoff time, as dumb as that can sound. He sets the tone for the defense and the team when he starts playing the hard nosed nasty game and to be quite honest you need that in the playoffs and no one else on the team does it the way he can.

If a chance to trade him comes along in the future I think that's fine, I'm not saying we have to love his contract, but he's not realyl hurting the team the way people are complaining he is.

That he's captain is almost completely separate from his actual play on the ice and I don't see the point of bringing that up

People wanted KAM back in Hartford last season. KAM has had some baffling plays but he's had his moments. Trouba has been on the struggle bus for most of the seaosn. His offense is terrible. His vision/gamesense in the O-zone, especially with the puck, is bad. He's a detriment on PP2.

When the negatives start piling up without many positives during a game, it's noticable. KAM has his moments but it's balanced, to put it in a weird way.

 

[sbjnyc]

I still can't fathom how that stat makes sense. Save percentage and shooting percentage are not correlated in any way. A team that has a 0.920% needs to shoot 8% to have a PDO of 1, another team may have a shooting percentage of 0.910% and would need to shoot 10% to have a PDO of 1. Why is the second team more likely to shoot 10% than the first team? PDO just seems like a made up stat that means very little.

It's not that SV% and Sh% are related but PDO for the entire league is 1 by definition so a natural question to ask is whether being above/below 1 means a team is lucky/unlucky.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It's not that SV% and Sh% are related but PDO for the entire league is 1 by definition so a natural question to ask is whether being above/below 1 means a team is lucky/unlucky.

Why is it a measure of luck though? In the NBA .500 is the average record (I used the NBA because the NFL has ties and NHL has OTL). Above .500 means good team and below .500 means bad team. Above .500 doesn't mean lucky team and below .500 doesn't mean unlucky team. I get the idea of sustainable and unsustainable save % but that makes more sense on an individual level compared to the player's history. So if a player historically has been an X % shooter and is now an X+10% shooter he's probably having a lucky season, but a team with Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin/Matthews will probably have a higher shooting percentage than the Coyotes. Same with Shesterkin vs. Blackwood.

 

[egelband]

Why is it a measure of luck though? In the NBA .500 is the average record (I used the NBA because the NFL has ties and NHL has OTL). Above .500 means good team and below .500 means bad team. Above .500 doesn't mean lucky team and below .500 doesn't mean unlucky team. I get the idea of sustainable and unsustainable save % but that makes more sense on an individual level compared to the player's history. So if a player historically has been an X % shooter and is now an X+10% shooter he's probably having a lucky season, but a team with Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin/Matthews will probably have a higher shooting percentage than the Coyotes. Same with Shesterkin vs. Blackwood.

Maybe not “luck” so much as they’ve played better than the record/stats say…maybe?

 

[sbjnyc]

Why is it a measure of luck though? In the NBA .500 is the average record (I used the NBA because the NFL has ties and NHL has OTL). Above .500 means good team and below .500 means bad team. Above .500 doesn't mean lucky team and below .500 doesn't mean unlucky team. I get the idea of sustainable and unsustainable save % but that makes more sense on an individual level compared to the player's history. So if a player historically has been an X % shooter and is now an X+10% shooter he's probably having a lucky season, but a team with Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin/Matthews will probably have a higher shooting percentage than the Coyotes. Same with Shesterkin vs. Blackwood.

It doesn't have to be, that's why it's a question. If Steph curry goes 1-15 on 3s and the Knicks beat GSW did they get lucky?

 

[duhmetreE]

It doesn't have to be, that's why it's a question. If Steph curry goes 1-15 on 3s and the Knicks beat GSW did they get lucky?

but what was the goalies save%

 

[Alluckks]

He is so good with his stick, doesn't take penalties either doing it.

Did David Quinn.... help?