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23Monahan

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Man what a letdown watching the world juniors and seeing our one underwhelming player put up 1 point. From the ONLY team in the league to not graduate a prospect since 2018. Arguably the worst prospect pool in all the NHL. Next year we wont be able to add anything as we are already going to be struggling with the salary cap because we gave huge contracts to 30 years olds coming off of career years. All of this to go into a total "win now" mode that has Milan Lucic in the top 6. What an absolute clown show of an organization lol
 
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23Monahan said:
Man what a letdown watching the world juniors and seeing our one underwhelming player put up 1 point. From the ONLY team in the league to not graduate a prospect since 2018. Arguably the worst prospect pool in all the NHL. Next year we wont be able to add anything as we are already going to be struggling with the salary cap because we gave huge contracts to 30 years olds coming off of career years. All of this to go into a total "win now" mode that has Milan Lucic in the top 6. What an absolute clown show of an organization lol
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We have good prospects in the ahl, but I agree our drafting in 2021 and 2022 leaves a lot to be desired.
 
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We have good prospects in the ahl, but I agree our drafting in 2021 and 2022 leaves a lot to be desired.
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Can you name a team with a more shallow prospect pool? Sure alot of the guys on the wranglers look good but they aren't going to get much of a chance with the current management and coaching staff... they may be forced to insert one or two next year due to cap reasons, but then again they might just bring rooney back up to fill in those holes.
 
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23Monahan said:
Can you name a team with a more shallow prospect pool? Sure alot of the guys on the wranglers look good but they aren't going to get much of a chance with the current management and coaching staff... they may be forced to insert one or two next year due to cap reasons, but then again they might just bring rooney back up to fill in those holes.
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Boston and Pittsburgh come to mind instantly. Washington isn’t great, Edmonton is meh, etc etc.

We’re in the 20 something range imo. The bigger problem is the team refusing to give chances to players.
 
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Boston and Pittsburgh come to mind instantly. Washington isn’t great, Edmonton is meh, etc etc.

We’re in the 20 something range imo. The bigger problem is the team refusing to give chances to players.
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Some are on the same level or just above us, yet these teams have all had more recent success in the playoffs. ALL 4 have at least graduated a prospect to the nhl in the last 5 years and 3/4 have cups in the last 12 years with the 4th atleast making it to the conference finals last year.

1. Pittsburgh - They might actually be worst than us overall prospect wise, and are actually one of the 4 teams in the league that are older than us on average. They had 0 players in the world juniors vs our 1 player and we have a few guys in the AHL that are more promising. But this is a team that is at the end of an era that has won them 3 cups since 2009 (two cups since 2016) and are still preforming just better than us still this season.

2. Boston - Same level as us IMO. Same age as our team on average. But better younger NHL roster players like pastrnak, Mcavoy, lindholm and debrusk. They had two players at the world juniors that combined for 4 goals vs our one player that had an assist. They ahl team is tied in points with the wranglers, although we seem to have a couple players that look to have a higher potential ceiling. Also the bruins are in win now mode(and actually look like they could pull it off) as they have 8 points more than 2nd place in the league. Also won a cup 12 years ago in 2011.

3. Washington - Another team in the same league as us, but that core has a stanley cup in the last 5 years. Oldest team on average in the league. One player in world juniors with an assist just like us.. Best AHL team in the league. Same level as us with actual "young" nhl players but are having a better season than us with an extra 7 points. Sonny Milano is a bright point on their team, a guy we said no to so we could ice guys like lucic and rooney lolll

4. Edmonton - One of the worst ran franchises in the league, yet still a level above us. They have two of the best players in the world in their prime, and are quiet a bit younger on average. One world junior player with one assist like us. AHL team is trash as they are actually giving some of their young guys chances this year due to their cap situation. They made the conference finals last year, a feat we havent done since 2004 with a younger team. They are a competent GM away from actually being a serious threat. They have one point more than us this year aswell and won the season series 2-1.

So I think pittsburgh is worse, but have some players with three rings on their fingers, Washignton and boston are better current teams with more recent success, and even the shit bag oilers have had more recent success and IMO have a brighter future in the next 7 or so years when you look at contract situations. NONE of these teams would have lucic in their top 9 lol. IMO we are in the 27-32nd overall for prospects.
 
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It's not all that bad. Flames have at least three top 50 prospects in Wolf, Pelletier, and Coronato. Zary would probably be in the 60-70 range and Poirier might be in there somewhere as well. Then some worthwhile wildcards that might be something like Pettersen, Phillips, Kuznetsov.

Let's see a win here. Would like to see Mangiapane start hitting his stride offensively already.
 
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Every time a bell rings, an angel gets their wings. Every time a flames fan complains about top 6 Lucic, that line gets their goal.
 
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