Confirmed Trade: [FLA/CGY] Matthew Tkachuk, c. 2025 4th for Jonathan Huberdeau, MacKenzie Weegar, Cole Schwindt, c. 2025 1st

[Dread Clawz]

If Flames win the cup during Weegar and Huberdeau's time there and Panthers don't win a cup with Tkachuk, Flames will definitely be seen as the winner of the trade. Doesn't matter that Tkachuk is younger then.

Obviously, but let's not put the cart before the horse.

 

[Body Checker]

Long ways to go for a winner in this trade. That Sportsnet trade tree will still be bearing fruit ten years from now.

 

[Dr Beinfest]

Sutter is too stuck in his ways to change the way the teams plays for him to generate more offense

That’s irrelevant to this specific trade. Tkachuk has been playing up to expectations. Huberdeau hasn’t.

How is it irrelevant? This trade wasn’t one for one. It is entirely possible that both teams lost this trade.

 

[Le Magnifique]

Huberdeau looks like trash right now.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Trade backfiring on the Flames.

 

[Ruthervin]

Long ways to go for a winner in this trade.

Agreed. I'm *still* waiting for the Zack Kassian/Cody Hodgson verdict.

 

[quietbruinfan]

How is it irrelevant? This trade wasn’t one for one. It is entirely possible that both teams lost this trade.

Both teams are considerably worse than last year. I suppose you have to wait for the prospects and the higher picks, but so far, it is a lose-lose trade.

 

[BB88]

This thread is a goldmine. Flames fans trashed Tkachuk so much. Glad to see him doing well.

"Huberdeau is far away the better offensive player"

"Tkachuk is slow & not an impact player"

"Mangiapane will replace Tkachuk's production IMO and someone else would have to fill in for Mangiapane's production.

"Huberdeau probably won’t push much beyond 90 points with the Flames, it’s true. But don’t hold your breath waiting for Tkachuk to even come close to that level"

"The guy isn’t a 100 point guy, even though he put up 104 points last year. Gaudreau and Lindholm drove that line and Chucky was there to clean up. Never saw the guy take over a game in his entire tenure as a Flame"

"The only reason Tkachuk is scoring all these highlight goals is the fact he had both Gaudreau as well as Lindholm setting him up over and over. Either way with Tkachuk on Florida my guess is 25-30 goals and 30-35 assists. You do not win championships when you have selfish players like the Tkachuks playing on your team. Daddy Tkachuk has taught his boys they are above the team and their needs come ahead of their teammates."

I don’t understand how anyone could have said Tkachuk was the 3rd best offensive player on that line.

E. Lindholm scored 82 points while his wingers scored 115 and 104.

This year we are seeing the same trend continue.

The only issue I still have on this trade for Florida is the 1st round pick.
Weegar should have been enough to compensate the UFA status.

Otherwise 10/10 take Tkachuk over Hubs/Weegar

Oh you mean the Panthers who don’t have any first round picks for the next 10 decades and play 2 NHL defenders and 3 AHL defenders for a total of 5 defenders on some nights?

Panthers core is build around 21-27y players.
They have their franchise guys already in place.

What they need is to rebuild depth and with this trade they’ll be dropping 15M of useless cap next offseason.
I have lot of issues with Zitos spending of 1st round picks yet they’ve been able to find plenty of steals on cheap contracts. Forsling, Verhaeghe, Duclair, White and Florida is a top3 destination to players right now(Tkachuk+ Giroux)

It’s pretty clear which of these teams has a better looking future.

One team is retooling and one team is going all in yet they are in a similar spot in the standings

 

[BB88]

Of course they’re going to trash him. He basically gave the middle finger to the franchise. Anyone who does that is going to get the same response. What did you expect? For them to call him a super nice guy and wish him all the best?

He went to the Gm and said he’s not going to sign an extension so let’s work together to make a fair trade.
End result was sign and trade to help out Calgary.

That’s a pretty well done move by a player who’s not going to commit longterm.

I think this trade gradually gets worse for flames, but treliving did well under the circumstances.

In a way yes he did but on the other hand this can really …. them up for a long time.

He took clearly older players and signed them to longterm deals.
They have a very short window to compete.

 

[dirtydanglez]

way too early to write of huby. tkachuk was always going to be a stud.

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

Most of the flames team has been awful, I wouldn't write off Huberdeau a quarter of the season in.

Besides, as a Flames fan I spent countless years waiting for Iginla to wake up in December

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

You can still turn it around and it doesn’t have to take 9 years. There is something you guys could do with Huberdeau, but hfboards is not ready to have that conversation yet.

You are trolling if you think a buy out will ever be considered. 20 games doesn't erase 4 over ppg seasons in a row. When Sutter came to Calgary both Gaudreau and Tkachuk both only had 11 points each in the first 20 games.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

You are trolling if you think a buy out will ever be considered. 20 games doesn't erase 4 over ppg seasons in a row. When Sutter came to Calgary both Gaudreau and Tkachuk both only had 11 points each in the first 20 games.

In fact, a Buyout never crossed my mind. This proves I was right however and HFBoards is not ready to discuss other scenarios. So I won’t bring it up again. Please don’t try to get me banned.

 

[IceManCat]

Huberdeau will pick it back up again.... You guys think he all of a sudden forgot how to play. And I'm not really much of a fan of his.

 

[madmike77]

Huberdeau has been picking it up lately and Weegar has been one of the Flames most reliable defencemen.

This trade isn’t the real problem with the team. Poor play by guys like Mangiapane, Dube, Hanifin, Tanev (doesn’t look like himself), Lucic and most of all Markstrom (.889 save percentage isn’t going to cut it) is what’s killing them, along with the ongoing absence of Kylington (not even sure he will play at all this year at this point).

 

[Grub]

Florida players will always underperform as soon as they are traded.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Trade backfiring on the Flames.

Not really, it was the best they could do based on the circumstances. The issue may be paying Huberdeau what he wanted for his 30+ years though.

Flames core is basically 30+ at this stage.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

fire Sutter and hire Quenville

 

[Trio123]

Huberdeau a much better hockey player than Tkachuk and I believe is also a very good character guy.

This trade is an easy win for Calgary and if you think otherwise choose a new sport to follow

Huge W for CGY if Huberdau resigns, he's a much better player than Tkachuk. Small W for CGY if he doesn't and they flip him at the trade deadline for a big package. Massive L if they lose him for nothing, but I don't see that happening. If the Flames are leading the Pacific again at the TDL, and they know Hubey isn't going to re-sign, do they trade him? You have to, in my opinion. Still a great trade for Calgary.

If either guy re-signs with Calgary, this deal becomes incredible for them. If both Huberdeau and Weegar sign long-term deals, people will be wondering what the hell was in Zito’s drink that fateful morning for years.

Elite 25 year old complementary winger

for

Superstar 29 year old winger
First pairing 28 year old defenseman
First round pick
Solid NHL prospect

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Tkachuk has been a monster this season. I though he'd be good but though he would fall off a bit from last year. Guess I was wrong.

 

[jackjohnson]

Am assuming Calgary lost the trade in the short term since they are now tied with Canucks in points

Those takes look so awful now, specially the guy he said to switch to a new sport if you think this was a bad trade for calgary. But hindsight is 20/20 and the trade was not bad for Calgary at the time. We still have to wait and see, maybe judge it in 2 to 3 years.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

11 goals and 32 pts in 22 games for Tkachuk

4 goals and 19 pts in 43 games for Huberdeau + Weegar



Sam Bennett now has 41 goals and 82 pts in 105 games as a Panther

Zito wiped the floor with Treliving in both these trades

 

[SnS]

11 goals and 32 pts in 22 games for Tkachuk

4 goals and 19 pts in 43 games for Huberdeau + Weegar



Sam Bennett now has 41 goals and 82 pts in 105 games as a Panther

Zito wiped the floor with Treliving in both these trades

And that’s enough from this nonsense.