livewell68
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- Jul 20, 2007
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I thought of starting this thread because I've seen many people make assumptions on how Crosby has Jagr beat at this point in both their careers and how it's not even close. I have a need to show that it was a lot closer than what most people believe.
Crosby so far including this season has played 8 seasons in the NHL. In 8 seasons, Crosby has 238 goals, 427 assists for 665 Pts in 470 games. That is a PPG of 1.41. Overall he has 1 Hart, 1 Art Ross, 1 Pearson and 1 Rocket Richard. By season his overall scoring finishes are 6, 1, 31, 3, 3, 32, 177, 1st so far this year.
Now let's look at Jagr. In his first 8 seasons, Jagr played 581 games. In that time span he had 301 goals, 434 assists for 735 Pts for a PPG of 1.26. He had 2 Art Ross trophies and 2 top 2 Hart finishes (1 4th place Hart finish). By season, his overall scoring finishes are 78, 58, 29, 9, 1, 2, 5, 1.
The numbers are a lot closer than some believe as you see. Jagr also has the slow start all things considered; he was a rookie playing on a stacked team and getting limited ice time in his first 2 seasons in the NHL and he had to learn a new language. By Jagr's 4th season, he really closes the gap. He would play in 350 games in those 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th seasons combined. He would score 208 goals, add 307 assists and collect a total of 515 Pts. In that time span between his 4th to 8th seasons he averaged a PPG of 1.47.
Does Crosby really hold that big advantage that everyone seems to be talking about?
On a side note, despite Jagr's slow start to establish himself as a star, in his first full 11 seasons in the NHL (all with Pittsburgh mind you), he scored 1079 Pts in 806 games. That is a PPG of 1.34. Crosby's PPG of 1.41 is only 0.07 higher than Jagr's was in his first 11 seasons despite Jagr playing in 336 more games (which is a full 4 seasons worth of games more).
Crosby so far including this season has played 8 seasons in the NHL. In 8 seasons, Crosby has 238 goals, 427 assists for 665 Pts in 470 games. That is a PPG of 1.41. Overall he has 1 Hart, 1 Art Ross, 1 Pearson and 1 Rocket Richard. By season his overall scoring finishes are 6, 1, 31, 3, 3, 32, 177, 1st so far this year.
Now let's look at Jagr. In his first 8 seasons, Jagr played 581 games. In that time span he had 301 goals, 434 assists for 735 Pts for a PPG of 1.26. He had 2 Art Ross trophies and 2 top 2 Hart finishes (1 4th place Hart finish). By season, his overall scoring finishes are 78, 58, 29, 9, 1, 2, 5, 1.
The numbers are a lot closer than some believe as you see. Jagr also has the slow start all things considered; he was a rookie playing on a stacked team and getting limited ice time in his first 2 seasons in the NHL and he had to learn a new language. By Jagr's 4th season, he really closes the gap. He would play in 350 games in those 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th seasons combined. He would score 208 goals, add 307 assists and collect a total of 515 Pts. In that time span between his 4th to 8th seasons he averaged a PPG of 1.47.
Does Crosby really hold that big advantage that everyone seems to be talking about?
On a side note, despite Jagr's slow start to establish himself as a star, in his first full 11 seasons in the NHL (all with Pittsburgh mind you), he scored 1079 Pts in 806 games. That is a PPG of 1.34. Crosby's PPG of 1.41 is only 0.07 higher than Jagr's was in his first 11 seasons despite Jagr playing in 336 more games (which is a full 4 seasons worth of games more).
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