GDT: Faber vs Bedard - 2:30 CT

[Soldier13Fox]

Watching the hawks these last few years has me actually kind of feeling sorry for Chi fans... those here that get all bent out of shape thinking the wild should tank are nuts. Even if Chi get Celebrini (if/when it happens I'm still going to shit my puke out of sheer disgust) they are still an extremely long ways away from icing an actual team. Miss me with that

 

[MNRube]

Watching the hawks these last few years has me actually kind of feeling sorry for Chi fans... those here that get all bent out of shape thinking the wild should tank are nuts. Even if Chi get Celebrini (if/when it happens I'm still going to shit my puke out of sheer disgust) they are still an extremely long ways away from icing an actual team. Miss me with that

100%.

 

[AKL]

Looks like Buster is redeemed

 

[NHL1674]

Watching the hawks these last few years has me actually kind of feeling sorry for Chi fans... those here that get all bent out of shape thinking the wild should tank are nuts. Even if Chi get Celebrini (if/when it happens I'm still going to shit my puke out of sheer disgust) they are still an extremely long ways away from icing an actual team. Miss me with that

They've won 3 Cups in the last 14 years! Don't feel sorry for them one bit. Their fans can afford to deal with some disappointment.

 

[AKL]

They've won 3 Cups in the last 14 years! Don't feel sorry for them one bit. Their fans can afford to deal with some disappointment.

3 Cups

for

Maybe a decade of being bad
Another generational talent or two
Future Cup considerations with that talent

Yeah I'll take that trade all the time. We've been mediocre for two and a half decades and I'm not sure being bad is much worse.

 

[Minnewildsota]

They've won 3 Cups in the last 14 years! Don't feel sorry for them one bit. Their fans can afford to deal with some disappointment.

With the whole sexual assault/grape situation, I hope they're marred in sub-mediocrity for decades.

 

[NHL1674]

3 Cups

for

Maybe a decade of being bad
Another generational talent or two
Future Cup considerations with that talent

Yeah I'll take that trade all the time. We've been mediocre for two and a half decades and I'm not sure being bad is much worse.

And it goes beyond the Wild.....We've been dealing with the pain since 1967. I wasn't alive then, but still.....

 

[Soldier13Fox]

I guess I just have differing wants and needs for my sports teams. Sure, a cup would be cool... even super cool, but if that comes at the expense of a several year period of dumpster fire level of hockey, I'm out.

 

[Soldier13Fox]

3 Cups

for

Maybe a decade of being bad
Another generational talent or two
Future Cup considerations with that talent

Yeah I'll take that trade all the time. We've been mediocre for two and a half decades and I'm not sure being bad is much worse.

Would you though? Would you enjoy enjoy a DECADE of being bad for the possibility of hoisting a cup? Maybe I'm not a true fan. That seems miserable man. Give me the last decade of the Wild (not this year, lol) without a cup and first round exits over what all of the perennial tank teams have.

Not trying to pick a fight, outside of a couple pro tank posters I respect your opinion.

 

[NHL1674]

Just for the record, I don't support tanking. And missing the postseason is gonna suck!

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

So Hynes played Kaprizov 24 minutes in a meaningless back to back game, and an afternoon one at that. I'm happy that he is scoring and looking to be all the way back, but WTF is he doing? Shouldn't he be limiting his minutes(and chance for injury caused by fatigue) and getting a look at other players rather than overplaying his top guys?

I don’t like watching this team when Kaprizov’s not on the ice, so I’m cool with it

 

[NHL1674]

Kaprizov is playing like he's unaware that they are out of the playoffs.

 

[Soldier13Fox]

Kaprizov is playing like he's unaware that they are out of the playoffs.

I sure hope BBB has been communicating the plan with him to keep him around. Yurov, Kap, boldy sounds amazing

 

[Minnewildsota]

I sure hope BBG has been communicating the plan with him. Yurov, Kap, boldy sounds amazing

With the potential of Ohgren and Wally

 

[Soldier13Fox]

With the potential of Ohgren and Wally

Yes!

 

[Circulartheory]

With the potential of Ohgren and Wally

Yes!

Add in Heidt and Rossi

 

[Minnesota]

I’ll never get tired of seeing the Blackhawks lose.

 

[Owen Nolan]

Would you though? Would you enjoy enjoy a DECADE of being bad for the possibility of hoisting a cup? Maybe I'm not a true fan. That seems miserable man. Give me the last decade of the Wild (not this year, lol) without a cup and first round exits over what all of the perennial tank teams have.

Not trying to pick a fight, outside of a couple pro tank posters I respect your opinion.

I feel like there are drastically different approaches to “the tank”. There’s the Chicago version of tearing it down to the studs. Then there’s the Colorado (Makar draft) version… I really, really, wish the Wild would’ve embraced some version of the latter.
I’m 100% convinced the only reason the Wild haven’t embraced a “competitive rebuild” is $$$ revenue. Pretending like we’re a contender when the team is clearly flawed feel dishonest.
Here’s my logic. The team started at a $14.7 disadvantage. Keeping some core young veteran leadership and embracing youth development with a goal of creating a contender is a concept I think this market would embrace. The contract extensions were idiotic day #1. Having the ability to strategically lose the second half of an injury riddled year is pragmatic asset management.

 

[AKL]

Would you though? Would you enjoy enjoy a DECADE of being bad for the possibility of hoisting a cup? Maybe I'm not a true fan. That seems miserable man. Give me the last decade of the Wild (not this year, lol) without a cup and first round exits over what all of the perennial tank teams have.

Not trying to pick a fight, outside of a couple pro tank posters I respect your opinion.

I had more fun and was more emotionally invested in watching the Diamondbacks (my favorite MLB team) go to the World Series and lose last year than in my 20 years being a fan of this Wild team. So yes, I would take an actual shot at a championship over first round exits every year. It's much better to believe you have a chance at winning the entire thing in a given year. Whether we win 45 games and lose in the first round, or win 20 games and never make the playoffs, there's not much difference.

 

[Wabit]

I feel like there are drastically different approaches to “the tank”. There’s the Chicago version of tearing it down to the studs. Then there’s the Colorado (Makar draft) version… I really, really, wish the Wild would’ve embraced some version of the latter.
I’m 100% convinced the only reason the Wild haven’t embraced a “competitive rebuild” is $$$ revenue. Pretending like we’re a contender when the team is clearly flawed feel dishonest.
Here’s my logic. The team started at a $14.7 disadvantage. Keeping some core young veteran leadership and embracing youth development with a goal of creating a contender is a concept I think this market would embrace. The contract extensions were idiotic day #1. Having the ability to strategically lose the second half of an injury riddled year is pragmatic asset management.

COL wasn't competitive and it turned into a botched rebuild that started with the Barrie, Duchene, and ROR draft in '09 lead to the Maker draft.

Really, if the draft balls hadn't hated COL they would have had a 4th top-3 pick to go along with Duchene, MacKinnon, and Landy picks all within the span of 9 years (6 total top-10 picks).

 

[Owen Nolan]

I concede your point and stand by the rest of my statement.

 

[Wabit]

I concede your point and stand by the rest of my statement.

BUF (Kane and ROR trade years) botched it's rebuild in a similar way to COL, by going for it before they had enough pieces.

 

[Circulartheory]

BUF (Kane and ROR trade years) botched it's rebuild in a similar way to COL, by going for it before they had enough pieces.

If my memory serves, Carolina is a team that did it right. Yes, they have a #1 OV pick but Svechnikov isn't even their best player, their best forwards were drafted #12, 13, or in the 2nd round. And still have a strong prospect pool and assets to trade for Guentzel.

 

[Owen Nolan]

BUF (Kane and ROR trade years) botched its rebuild in a similar way to COL, by going for it before they had enough pieces.

Are you suggesting the Wild wait for better prospects before trying to assembling a contending roster?

 

[Wabit]

If my memory serves, Carolina is a team that did it right. Yes, they have a #1 OV pick but Svechnikov isn't even their best player, their best forwards were drafted #12, 13, or in the 2nd round. And still have a strong prospect pool and assets to trade for Guentzel.

CAR makes a lot of trades, and seems to win most of them. They aren't afraid to get rid of players that don't fit or are going to be overpaid on their next contracts.