Post-Game Talk: [EX4] Canucks defeat Oilers | 5-2 (Hughes(2), Kuzmenko, Pettersson, & Di Giuseppe)

[vancityluongo]

I’m interested to see how Myers does with Soucy. Myers has gotten his best results when he’s had more opportunity to push the play offensively, and he’s always had poor results defensively, particularly off the rush. Soucy’s strengths complement Myers’ weaknesses at least in theory.

That said, it only really makes sense if Soucy can also pick up extra shifts beside Hughes, since you want the team’s four best defenders getting the most ice time. Some of that should happen naturally with Soucy PKing and Hughes QBing the PP.

Agreed - in theory, Cole-Hronek and Soucy-Myers are solid second and third pairings on a true contending team.

Soucy and Cole getting the main PK minutes along with Hughes and then Hughes and Hronek running the two PP units probably gets ice-time to a point where those four are the top-4.

The problem is with Hughes' partner. McWard getting this look is a great development, but even if Soucy is picking up a couple off-side shifts, that's still a big hole and makes it hard to maximize your franchise defenseman.

 

[Play]

Would you do a Podkolzin+ for Shane Pinto?

I love Pod but that’s a yes.

that’s cheating. That’s a easy yes after any sort of short contemplation , you gotta tell us what the plus is

#revealtheplus

 

[mkatcherin00]

Edit wrong forum

 

[credulous]

i said before i'd do lekkerimaki or the 2024 first plus for pinto. podkolzin for pinto is a no brainer

pinto would instantly give the forward group a huge boost

 

[quat]

Kind of funny the overaction to some pretty soft criticisms of the preseason play.

Hope they're able to play a bit more like everyone hoped they would.

I know, crazy thinking for the preseason.

 

[arttk]

It is funny everyone is like Soucy must have been brought in to play his offside with Hughes, and Tocchet was like "Heck yes, I got a partner for Tyler Myers."

Seems like Hughes can make anyone not Myers work.

 

[sting101]

Already we're concerning ourselves with who gets to babysit the 6 million dollar man

 

[Play]

Edit wrong forum

That’s not your first time

Kind of funny the overaction to some pretty soft criticisms of the preseason play.

Hope they're able to play a bit more like everyone hoped they would.

I know, crazy thinking for the preseason.

To be very honest with you , Quat. I think a lot of people just really fear our poor starts the past two season. I think that’s why there’s more over exaggerations this year.

 

[Brookbank]

Im just jumping to panic mode right now. A winless pre season is totally unacceptable

 

[Hammer79]

Im just jumping to panic mode right now. A winless pre season is totally unacceptable

I would have to have expectations for this team to panic. I'm way past that now, what I feel is more like apathy towards the new season in general.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Would you do a Podkolzin+ for Shane Pinto?

I love Pod but that’s a yes.

Easily, Ottawa can have any or all of pod, garland, hog, woo, McDonough, sasson, rathbone, bloom, klim... for pinto.

 

[Three On Zero]

Bring on the preseason thrashing #4

 

[andora]

for some reason HF booted me out on mobile - now i can't find the sign in screen anywhere on mobile ???

 

[quat]

That’s not your first time


To be very honest with you , Quat. I think a lot of people just really fear our poor starts the past two season. I think that’s why there’s more over exaggerations this year.

My post was poking fun at posters getting overly anxious that fans were being too hard on the team when the real season hadn't started.

Finally hockey starts up and apparently it's better not to discuss the games. until the real losing begins!

 

[andora]

oh nevermind, it's the little key.. how silly of me

 

[quat]

for some reason HF booted me out on mobile - now i can't find the sign in screen anywhere on mobile ???

Top left of the three line drop down menu?

 

[logan5]

Most important game of the season.

 

[Vector]

Most important game of the season.

Technically correct. The best kind of correct.

 

[TruGr1t]

Seems like Hughes can make anyone not Myers work.

I mean yes, but you're simply not throwing out Hughes and McWard as a match-up pairing over 82 games. It'll fall on Cole-Hronek and potentially Soucy-Myers before that pairing in terms of tough defensive match-ups, which I have no clue if it'll work, nor does anyone else. Hronek effectively broke out after he was minute sheltered by Seider and the rest is a shot in the dark.

 

[rypper]

Something to consider.

In 2021/22 the Coyotes went 5-1 in preseason and then proceeded to lose the first 11 games of the season.

The same season the Avalanche went 2-4 in the preseason. Then went on to win the Stanley Cup.

 

[arttk]

I mean yes, but you're simply not throwing out Hughes and McWard as a match-up pairing over 82 games. It'll fall on Cole-Hronek and potentially Soucy-Myers before that pairing in terms of tough defensive match-ups, which I have no clue if it'll work, nor does anyone else. Hronek effectively broke out after he was minute sheltered by Seider and the rest is a shot in the dark.

I think Cole - Hronek is the matchup pair and Hughes is the we are going to try to score on you pair.

 

[TruGr1t]

I think Cole - Hronek is the matchup pair and Hughes is the we are going to try to score on you pair.

Agreed that seems to be Tocchet’s mindset as well. I also think Soucy-Myers won’t really be viewed as a traditional third pair and you’ll end up seeing them quite a bit.

 

[wonton15]

I mean yes, but you're simply not throwing out Hughes and McWard as a match-up pairing over 82 games. It'll fall on Cole-Hronek and potentially Soucy-Myers before that pairing in terms of tough defensive match-ups, which I have no clue if it'll work, nor does anyone else. Hronek effectively broke out after he was minute sheltered by Seider and the rest is a shot in the dark.

The thing about Hughes is that his possession and ability to tilt the ice automatically makes him effective at “match ups”, which is why I think we’ll need to run Hughes-Cole/Soucy eventually if we don’t acquire a real RHD, similar to how we ran Hughes-Schenn.

Tocchet needs to try Hughes-Cole/Soucy in real minutes in this preseason before it’s too late

 

[Hammman]

Something to consider.

In 2021/22 the Coyotes went 5-1 in preseason and then proceeded to lose the first 11 games of the season.

The same season the Avalanche went 2-4 in the preseason. Then went on to win the Stanley Cup.

Two NFL teams in history have gone 0-16. Both teams went 4-0 in preseason.

 

[arttk]

Agreed that seems to be Tocchet’s mindset as well. I also think Soucy-Myers won’t really be viewed as a traditional third pair and you’ll end up seeing them quite a bit.

Seeing Myers more is a scary thought..