Couldnt watch the game due to regional restriction.
Did Hronek play any games yet?
Will be in the line-up tomorrow against the Kraken.
Couldnt watch the game due to regional restriction.
Did Hronek play any games yet?
I was just bustin your balls about the giraffe stuff OT.Look the guy isn't going to take a step right with so many here. I thought he was ordinary. No absolutely horrible errors around his net (that I saw - maybe someone can point these out and I'll go back and watch) and in the third he did step up to make a couple of dangerous plays in the Edmonton end.
Is it tragic that he is making so much money. Yes. But, to me, people continually slagging on Myers is looking for some simple solution to the defensive issues with the team. I believe more of the issues lie up front with the forwards whose defensive play over the last years has been awful. Seems to me, it is easier for fans to blame the kind of dorky looking Myers than people like Boeser, Horvat and Miller. Canucks have acknowledged that by bringing in Tocchet who is rightly focused on the play of the forwards.
Dmen often get the blame. But the problems often start elsewhere (and I like the way Tocchet ripped Kuzmenko in this one - and wish he would do it more with Boeser). Or the goalie getting all the blame after he was hung out to dry. I saw this on teams I played on and coached.
Not saying that Myers reacts, at times, well to those problems but if you are constantly forced into last second desperation plays as a defensemen you are not going to look good. Last Vegas defense got a lot of kudos - but a lot of that should have gone to the really responsible forwards as it should have gone to Tampa forwards during their runs. And one reason Edmonton lost was b/c of the poor play defensively of their forwards (including McDavid - who has never sacrificed himself defensively as say a player like Crosby has done)
Not saying Myers doesn't deserve criticism but the sometimes bizarre focus solely on him and attributing all the defensive problems to him is emotion driven and simplistic, I think people need to take a breath and not let their dislike of this player totally shape their opinions.
3rd rd pick…not a 5thDeSmith for Pearson and a 5th in 2025 was a W trade. Address 2 problems and only give up a 5th.
This team would be so much better off with Myers as the 7th man. Wolanin, Hirose, and Brisebois can all move the puck and aren't disastrous defensively like the tall man. Let's hope he actually steps it up because a 3rd pairing Myers was a successful Myers in years past.
I really really hope Brisebois makes the team as a regular.McWard and Brisebois might be NHL bound. Wolanin might be the #7.
Myers might be Ethan Bear's second agent, the true Kelowna connection.
I mean, given they let Benning run the show as long as they did, and we have reason to believe that the owner meddles, and the team has been a sh*t show for a decade. I am not sure that this isn’t a Mickey Mouse franchise.the Canucks aren’t no Mickey Mouse franchise.
We’ll find out the group when the team intends us to
Regarding Guillaume Brisebois:I really really hope Brisebois makes the team as a regular.
What a story that would be, a 2015 third round pick after 8 years, became a full time nhler with the team that drafted him
The fact that we're even 'talking' about Soucy and Myers on a 'third' pairing would be unheard of a season or so ago. And we're not even factoring Hronek into the mix.Maybe if McWard can hack being Hughes' partner, Soucey can team up with Myers to stabilize his game?
Seems like a waste to have Soucey on the 3rd pairing, though.
It’s pretty crazy to think that 5 of our top 7 D will all be new guys, given that Hronek hardly played last year. Not a bad off season for Allvin. The D needs some work but that’s a great start.Not yet
Myers, Jullsen, Irwin and Woo have been bad
Soucy, McWard, Wolanin and Brisebois have been good
Right now its probably looking like
Hughes - McWard
Cole - Hronek
Soucy - Myers
Wolanin
Right, my bad.3rd rd pick…not a 5th
I really wish that were the case. But going off last night's performance - and it's all we have to go by so far - he didn't perform as a 3rd pairing defenseman last night. Certainly not one that can anchor a 3rd pairing. Instead, for every good play he made (there were perhaps 4 or 5), he made nearly twice as many bad ones. These include flubbed passes to wingers and his own partner that put them in poor positions to push the puck up ice or out of his zone, bizarre coverage choices that were ineffective and was fortunate that they were covered up by DeSmith's strong performance in net, and just awful pinches in the ozone that lead to everyone scrambling to head off an odd man rushes going the other way.Myers: Agree with what @orcatown is saying about the tediousness of the 'memes' around him being chatic and a giraffe. He's clearly not a 6 million dollar D, but as a 3rd pairing guy he is a luxury. He had a couple of unsure moments in this game, but was pretty good overall. Many on these boards absolutely refuse to acknowledge when he does well or give him the benefit of the doubt when something goes wrong with him on the ice.
Yeah. I hate it, because he was such a fun exciting little player when he first arrived. But really have to echo these sentiments and concerns about Hoglander. It'd be an overreaction to a single preseason game...but at the end of the day, the problem isn't new. Same old story. Looks like the same misfit player who can't find a real spot in our lineup.
I don't really think plugging him into that "top line" role is the best thing for him any more than sticking him on a "bottom line" grinder role. But that's sort of the problem that has emerged with him and persisted for quite a while now.
He just doesn't seem to mesh with anyone, or fit any particular role on the team. He has a hard time reading off linemates and seems inclined to try to do "too much" himself. He overhandles the puck when he should really be making quick, simple one-touch plays to just keep possession alive, work the cycle, get the puck down low, get to the net or do a better job of rotating to a position that supports the cycle.
He's just not a skilled enough, creative enough, or strong and fast enough player to make the sort of moves and plays he seems to want to make. That results in too many plays that just effectively die on his stick and kill any momentum his linemates might be making. He also tends to float himself too often to positions that don't give his linemates a good option to cycle the puck. Kind of strands them on an island attempting to work a 2-man cycle that gets outmanned and again...the possession tends to die.
We saw as a rookie that with the right sort of linemate (Bo Horvat) and the right sort of simple straightforward game, he has the potential to be a really useful, pesky little middle-6er who pots 20G for you. But he seems to have regressed from that player, and doesn't really have a clear fit on this roster.
I think it's time to seriously start examining what to do with Hoglander. I guess in the short-term, you just plug him in to a couple other spots and see if some random chemistry pops up. Maybe he randomly works with Pius Suter or something? But ultimately, i think you've gotta start looking at whether you can even get anything useful for him in trade. I'm not sure you can, but it's pretty clearly coming time to find out.
I'm ready to move on, but I don't think there's a lot of trade value there. Maybe a 5th round pick or another struggling prospect.