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A discussion in another thread got me thinking about which teams were paving the way for Europeans during the 80s and, also, which teams acted against the trend.
I thought that there are a couple of ways of looking at this: as a percentage of players who dressed for the team throughout the decade, and by looking at the most prominently featured European on any team. I’ve made a definitely flawed count of the percentage of North Americans of the total of skaters with at least one GP for each NHL franchise between the 1979-80 and 1989-90 seasons: I think I counted Langway as a North American, but I don’t know if I adjusted for Boldirev or Bob Nystrom’s nationalities, for instance. I did, however, double check all the Blackhawks born outside of North America because it was a very easy thing to do.
So please take the following numbers with a grain of salt. I’ve listed 21 teams by the percentage of North American players dressed between 1979-80 and 1989-90, and added their European GP and points leaders for some extra context.
Team total players, total North Americans: % of total
Euro GP leader (team rank across span)
Euro Points leader (team rank across span)
Chicago 101, 100: 99%
J Torkki 4 GP (t-89th)
J Torkki 4 1-0-1 (t-87th)
St. Louis 134, 130: 97%
J Pettersson 365 GP (8th)
J Pettersson 365 161-171-332 (5th)
Hartford 166, 161: 97%
U Samuelsson 401 GP (6th)
R Siltanen 277 40-118-158 (14th)
Pittsburgh 154, 149: 96,8%
V Siren 199 GP (t-28th)
V Siren 199 11-45-56 (t-45th)
Toronto 153, 147: 96,1%
Börje Salming 651 GP (1st)
Börje Salming 651 70-338-408 (2nd)
Boston 116, 111 NA: 95,7%
M Thelvén 207 GP (28th)
M Thelvén 207 20-80-100 (27th)
Montréal 102, 97 NA: 95,1%
M Näslund 617 (4th)
M Näslund 617 243-369-612 (1st)
Los Angeles 158, 149: 94,3%
A Håkansson 191 GP (23rd)
A Håkansson 191 31-30-61 (41st)
Detroit 151, 142 NA: 94%
P Klima 293 GP (12th)
P Klima 293 129–93-222 (5th)
Philadelphia 117, 109: 93,2%
I Sinisalo 526 GP (4th)
I Sinisalo 526 199-210-409 (4th)
Buffalo 120, 111: 92,5%
C Ruuttu 291 GP (17th)
C Ruuttu 291 81-176-256 (10th)
Atlanta/Calgary 124, 114: 91,9%
H Loob 450 GP (7th)
K Nilsson 425 229-333-562 (1st)
Winnipeg 133, 122: 91,7%
T Steen 667 GP (3rd)
T Steen 667 186-388-574 (2nd)
Québec 156, 142: 91%
P Stastny 737 GP (2nd)
P Stastny 737 380-668-1048 (1st)
Washington 142, 129: 90,8%
B-Å Gustafsson 629 GP (2nd)
B-Å Gustafsson 629 195-359-554 (2nd)
NY Islanders 97, 88: 90,7%
T Jonsson 532 GP (7th)
T Jonsson 532 84-249-333 (8th)
Minnesota 161, 145: 90%
F Musil 263 GP (18th)
K Nilsson 105 29-77-106 (23rd)
NY Rangers 161, 144: 89,4%
J Erixon, 412 GP (6th)
T Sandström, 407 173-207-380 (2nd)
Vancouver 129, 115: 89,1%
T Gradin 537 GP (3rd)
T Gradin 537 177-322-499 (2nd)
Colorado/New Jersey 154, 136: 88,3%
P Sundström 217 GP (21st)
P Sundström 217 70-126-196 (10th)
Edmonton 141, 123: 87,2%
J Kurri 754 GP (t-3rd)
J Kurri 764 474-569-1043 (2nd)
So here are some thoughts I have on this:
1977 1 (Hagman, 1 GP Bruins: 1st ever)
1978 0
1979 2 (both Rangers)
1980 1 (Persson, Islanders)
1981 2 (one each)
1982 9
1983 5
1984 7
1985 8
1986 3
1987 8
1988 3
1989 4
1990 4 (all Oilers)
1991 4
1992 7
1993 3 (all Kings)
1994 7
1995 9
1996 9
1997 12
1998 13
1999 8
2000 10
2001 9
2002 16
2003 12
2004 12
2006 10
2007 7
2008 15
2009 17
2010 8
2011 10
2012 11
2013 15
2014 8
2015 14
2016 10
2017 13
2018 15
2019 11
2020 18
2021 12
Average number of Europeans per cup final per decade:
1970s: 0,3
1980s: 5
1990s: 7,6
2000s: 10,8
2010s: 11,5
2020s: 15
Additional notes:
What do you remember about the process of integrating Europeans into the NHL? Why were the Blackhawks so extremely reluctant?
And some other teams also look like they might have failed to get with the programme in time. The Bruins doesn’t seem to have had much luck catching Euro talent until Chara, arguably, but at least before Stümpel, Axelsson and Samsonov in the late 90s. Why is that?
Edit: The numbers have been adjusted on 2021-11-27 not to count Canadian and American-trained players as Europeans.
I thought that there are a couple of ways of looking at this: as a percentage of players who dressed for the team throughout the decade, and by looking at the most prominently featured European on any team. I’ve made a definitely flawed count of the percentage of North Americans of the total of skaters with at least one GP for each NHL franchise between the 1979-80 and 1989-90 seasons: I think I counted Langway as a North American, but I don’t know if I adjusted for Boldirev or Bob Nystrom’s nationalities, for instance. I did, however, double check all the Blackhawks born outside of North America because it was a very easy thing to do.
So please take the following numbers with a grain of salt. I’ve listed 21 teams by the percentage of North American players dressed between 1979-80 and 1989-90, and added their European GP and points leaders for some extra context.
Team total players, total North Americans: % of total
Euro GP leader (team rank across span)
Euro Points leader (team rank across span)
Chicago 101, 100: 99%
J Torkki 4 GP (t-89th)
J Torkki 4 1-0-1 (t-87th)
St. Louis 134, 130: 97%
J Pettersson 365 GP (8th)
J Pettersson 365 161-171-332 (5th)
Hartford 166, 161: 97%
U Samuelsson 401 GP (6th)
R Siltanen 277 40-118-158 (14th)
Pittsburgh 154, 149: 96,8%
V Siren 199 GP (t-28th)
V Siren 199 11-45-56 (t-45th)
Toronto 153, 147: 96,1%
Börje Salming 651 GP (1st)
Börje Salming 651 70-338-408 (2nd)
Boston 116, 111 NA: 95,7%
M Thelvén 207 GP (28th)
M Thelvén 207 20-80-100 (27th)
Montréal 102, 97 NA: 95,1%
M Näslund 617 (4th)
M Näslund 617 243-369-612 (1st)
Los Angeles 158, 149: 94,3%
A Håkansson 191 GP (23rd)
A Håkansson 191 31-30-61 (41st)
Detroit 151, 142 NA: 94%
P Klima 293 GP (12th)
P Klima 293 129–93-222 (5th)
Philadelphia 117, 109: 93,2%
I Sinisalo 526 GP (4th)
I Sinisalo 526 199-210-409 (4th)
Buffalo 120, 111: 92,5%
C Ruuttu 291 GP (17th)
C Ruuttu 291 81-176-256 (10th)
Atlanta/Calgary 124, 114: 91,9%
H Loob 450 GP (7th)
K Nilsson 425 229-333-562 (1st)
Winnipeg 133, 122: 91,7%
T Steen 667 GP (3rd)
T Steen 667 186-388-574 (2nd)
Québec 156, 142: 91%
P Stastny 737 GP (2nd)
P Stastny 737 380-668-1048 (1st)
Washington 142, 129: 90,8%
B-Å Gustafsson 629 GP (2nd)
B-Å Gustafsson 629 195-359-554 (2nd)
NY Islanders 97, 88: 90,7%
T Jonsson 532 GP (7th)
T Jonsson 532 84-249-333 (8th)
Minnesota 161, 145: 90%
F Musil 263 GP (18th)
K Nilsson 105 29-77-106 (23rd)
NY Rangers 161, 144: 89,4%
J Erixon, 412 GP (6th)
T Sandström, 407 173-207-380 (2nd)
Vancouver 129, 115: 89,1%
T Gradin 537 GP (3rd)
T Gradin 537 177-322-499 (2nd)
Colorado/New Jersey 154, 136: 88,3%
P Sundström 217 GP (21st)
P Sundström 217 70-126-196 (10th)
Edmonton 141, 123: 87,2%
J Kurri 754 GP (t-3rd)
J Kurri 764 474-569-1043 (2nd)
So here are some thoughts I have on this:
- Some teams were like Montreal and featured very few, but at least some European of prominence. Others were more like Boston and dressed a bunch who never made much of a splash. But then there’s Chicago. Four players over the time span were not born in Canada or the US: one was 17 games of Stan Mikita, two were Italian born Canadians, and then there’s Jari Torkki playing four games in 1988-89. Is there a story behind Chicago in particular not giving Europeans a chance?
- On the other end of the spectrum, there’s the Oilers. Interestingly, I thought, the most successful teams of the decade seem ahead of the curve in terms of employing European skaters. Most notably, of course, the Islanders and Oilers, but even the 1986 Canadiens stand out with having a Swede lead them in scoring.
- Out of the O6 teams, the Rangers stand out as being particularly welcoming of Europeans: all the other five teams were found in the bottom-half of Euro integration.
1977 1 (Hagman, 1 GP Bruins: 1st ever)
1978 0
1979 2 (both Rangers)
1980 1 (Persson, Islanders)
1981 2 (one each)
1982 9
1983 5
1984 7
1985 8
1986 3
1987 8
1988 3
1989 4
1990 4 (all Oilers)
1991 4
1992 7
1993 3 (all Kings)
1994 7
1995 9
1996 9
1997 12
1998 13
1999 8
2000 10
2001 9
2002 16
2003 12
2004 12
2006 10
2007 7
2008 15
2009 17
2010 8
2011 10
2012 11
2013 15
2014 8
2015 14
2016 10
2017 13
2018 15
2019 11
2020 18
2021 12
Average number of Europeans per cup final per decade:
1970s: 0,3
1980s: 5
1990s: 7,6
2000s: 10,8
2010s: 11,5
2020s: 15
Additional notes:
- In 1979-80, ten teams employed all 22 NHL skaters trained in Sweden, Finland and Czechoslovakia.
- The 1982 Cup finals (NYI v. VAN) featured eight Swedish skaters: half the NHL total.
- The 1990 Bruins and the 1993 Canadiens are the only finalists since 1980 without a European on their rosters; Canadiens the last champion.
What do you remember about the process of integrating Europeans into the NHL? Why were the Blackhawks so extremely reluctant?
And some other teams also look like they might have failed to get with the programme in time. The Bruins doesn’t seem to have had much luck catching Euro talent until Chara, arguably, but at least before Stümpel, Axelsson and Samsonov in the late 90s. Why is that?
Edit: The numbers have been adjusted on 2021-11-27 not to count Canadian and American-trained players as Europeans.
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