Jtown
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Because the most likely scenario IMO is a trade and extension. We shall see I guess.
yeah but that is also a huge gamble to take.
Because the most likely scenario IMO is a trade and extension. We shall see I guess.
yeah but that is also a huge gamble to take.
For Karlsson or the team acquiring him? I would assume a trade would already have the extension in place. Who knows maybe that’s why this is taking longer than expected. Just a guess though.
Sens fans I have an idea, Trade E.K to us for a 2020 1st (only if he will resign with us) then we get him all this season then once he is resigned(we make sure there is no NTC) then we trade a signed E.K back (plus we can do it all bonus and we can pay it before we trade it) for our 1st back win win for everyone except E.K lolFrank Serevelli actually said that.
Dorions response was you can ask any GM in our divisions, they got a call on mike Hoffman.
I wonder if Buffalo makes a run at EK now. They have 3 2019 1sts and a lot of young prospects. Might want to pair Dahlin-EK for the next 8 years.
I mean, I don’t want to crap on Ottawa while they’re down, but I can’t imagine Duchene wants any part of another rebuild and he’s a UFA after this year where he just saw how in demand centers are.
No way in hell that deal is better. If they had to have players he should have taken the pick and flipped them. Sakic and Wison have both clowned him this way.No, Tallon stated that he never offered the picks package to OTT that he did to SJ, Dorion wanted roster players.
Tallon said no, and negotiated a better deal with SJ.
Then Dorion came out and said he is old school, and doesnt like to trade within the division. So he took a worse deal and saw the player come back to the division anyways.
I actually think the offer is fair.
Those are going to be late 1st round picks, you’re pretty going to the conference finals each year. Especially if you can keep everyone together.
You don’t need any other additions on defence when Karlsson can eat all of those minutes.
Breaking down the value
1-top prospect (expected)
2- 3 1st round picks, probably late and also staggered. One of them being FIVE years from now.
3-Kapanen looks promising but he isn’t some top line elite winger.
4-Gardiner is alright, I like him.
Leafs are also in our division, so we want to be compensated for facing our former captain the next 7 years.
Klefbom + Lucic + 1st in 2019 + conditional 1st in 2020 if Karlsson resigns.
Choice of Yamamoto or puljujarvi as well .
For karlsson
I agree, it makes zero sense for Ottawa to take on Lucic. But Bouchard is a complete nonstarter untouchable as far as I'm concerned. I'd only trade him 1 for 1 for Karlsson, not adding any other pieces. If the Oilers can find a suitor for Lucic's contract, what do you think about Klefbom/Nurse + 2019 1st + Puljujarvi/Yamamoto + Bear?lol why would you expect Ottawa--a broke ass team if there ever was one--to take on an expensive, dead weight contract in exchange for their best player?
Edmonton has the prospects + young roster players necessary to make a deal with Ottawa work, but the chances of Ottawa taking on Lucic's contract as part of the deal are zero. Ottawa's front office is dumb but they're not dumb enough to repeat the Ryan mistake.
Something along the lines of: Klefbom, Bouchard, a 2019 1st + a few conditional middling picks would be enough for the Sens to seriously consider pulling the trigger.
I agree, it makes zero sense for Ottawa to take on Lucic. But Bouchard is a complete nonstarter untouchable as far as I'm concerned. I'd only trade him 1 for 1 for Karlsson, not adding any other pieces. If the Oilers can find a suitor for Lucic's contract, what do you think about Klefbom/Nurse + 2019 1st + Puljujarvi/Yamamoto + Bear?
I don't think Bear has notoriety around the league yet, but he's certainly panning out to be a projected top-4 offensive defenseman.
I agree, it makes zero sense for Ottawa to take on Lucic. But Bouchard is a complete nonstarter untouchable as far as I'm concerned. I'd only trade him 1 for 1 for Karlsson, not adding any other pieces. If the Oilers can find a suitor for Lucic's contract, what do you think about Klefbom/Nurse + 2019 1st + Puljujarvi/Yamamoto + Bear?
I don't think Bear has notoriety around the league yet, but he's certainly panning out to be a projected top-4 offensive defenseman.
Karlsson + Ryan
for
Dougie Hamilton (3 years x $5.75 million) + 2019 1st (top-10 protected)
You are such a massive homer. Why do you choose to exist this way?
Hey the Canes already bilked one team out of a superior defender using a quantity of lesser assets. Why not try for round 2?
Do you know what I am saying, friend?
Or they keep Gardiner and his 52 points and all the assets suggested to be traded and Ottawa keeps Karlsson and his 62 points.
Sens fans are delusional for what they believe one year of Karlsson is worth.
Or they keep Gardiner and his 52 points and all the assets suggested to be traded and Ottawa keeps Karlsson and his 62 points.
Sens fans are delusional for what they believe one year of Karlsson is worth.
Hello. Not a Sens fan but wooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwOr they keep Gardiner and his 52 points and all the assets suggested to be traded and Ottawa keeps Karlsson and his 62 points.
Sens fans are delusional for what they believe one year of Karlsson is worth.
Unmmm. Easy no for the FlyersKarlsson and Ryan to Philly for
McDonald
Frost
Sanheim
Lehtera
1st
2nd
3rd
2 good but not amazing prospects, 2 cap dumps and some draft picks is an easy "no" for one of the best players in the world. Are you serious?Unmmm. Easy no for the Flyers
Oh you did it now.Or they keep Gardiner and his 52 points and all the assets suggested to be traded and Ottawa keeps Karlsson and his 62 points.
Sens fans are delusional for what they believe one year of Karlsson is worth.