http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=186427&hubname=nhl
sorry if it's been posted but I looked quickly and didn't see it.
sorry if it's been posted but I looked quickly and didn't see it.
Ya before you go using your rolly eyes faces he had a clause in his contract that said he could go back. How is this any different from Malkin or Ovechkin leaving for North America? Ya, it's not, so lose the bias.
Ya before you go using your rolly eyes faces he had a clause in his contract that said he could go back. How is this any different from Malkin or Ovechkin leaving for North America? Ya, it's not, so lose the bias.
I don't know what you're talking about but the Coyotes suspended him for not reporting. That doesn't sound like a contract clause to me.
By suspending him, he doesn't count against the cap. It's why Ottawa did it with Kaigorodov and why Phoenix has done it here.I don't know what you're talking about but the Coyotes suspended him for not reporting. That doesn't sound like a contract clause to me.
By suspending him, he doesn't count against the cap. It's why Ottawa did it with Kaigorodov and why Phoenix has done it here.
There was probably a clause, but they wanted to see if he'd go down anyway.
By suspending him, he doesn't count against the cap. It's why Ottawa did it with Kaigorodov and why Phoenix has done it here.
There was probably a clause, but they wanted to see if he'd go down anyway.
lose the bias? what the hell are you talking about?
The guy only had 2 points in 16 or so games and felt he was too good for the AHL so he had to go back home? That deserves a imo.
And if he had a clause in his contract why did he get suspended by the team for refusing to report? Explain that one.
By suspending him, he doesn't count against the cap. It's why Ottawa did it with Kaigorodov and why Phoenix has done it here.
There was probably a clause, but they wanted to see if he'd go down anyway.
I dunno how much leeway there is in an actual SPC for a "clause" about going home. But presumably they could have a separate agreement, verbal or otherwise, about what would happen if he couldn't stick with the Coyotes. IMO the only potentially goofy thing going on here is if the Coyotes get too worked up about it. Sounds like Lisin had it in *his* mind all along that he was going back if he got sent down, and I don't really understand how it could have come as a surprise to the Coyotes, given that it was widely bandied about pretty much all season that that was Lisin's plan. And who could blame him... much nicer money - and a higher level of competition and comfort - in the RSL, so why not go? If the Coyotes could stop and think about it and be supportive of what really is a pretty logical decision, then you'd think they'd do themselves more good in the longrun instead of complaining?
By suspending him, he doesn't count against the cap. It's why Ottawa did it with Kaigorodov and why Phoenix has done it here.
According to Lisin's agent about a week ago there was indeed a clause, just like there was a clause with both Kaigorodov and Khomitsky. Needless to say all three players went back and are now officially suspended... albeit Khomitsky violated the terms of his clause due to family reasons - but unlike Kaigorodov, nonetheless parted with the Stars on good terms.
OK, Slitty I have a question. Do you think he will ever come back to the Coyotes? I am just curious because someone just mentioned on the Yotes board that when players do this they rarely do.
What is your gut feeling? Thanks for all the updates and such. Please keep us posted on anything else you hear.
It seems strange. I'm trying to figure out how those clauses work. If it allows a player to return to Russia, then why suspend him for doing exactly that? Maybe it's a money thing, so that they don't have to pay a suspended player? But then, why wouldn't the escape clause also allow the team to not pay the player if he chooses to exercise his right to leave?
I'm not trying to criticize Lisin's decision, as posters have pointed out that's it's likely in his best interest to go back (I probably would in the circumstances). But I'm just puzzled by the mechanics of an escape clause that still allows a team to suspend a player for using it, or at least I can't figure out why a team would agree to that clause and then act all indignant when a player invokes it. It's far from a perfect analogy, but it strikes me as sort of similar to suspending a player for refusing to waive his NTC, and then issuing official statements about how the team feels let down.
Anyway, that -18 in 17 games is astounding.
exactly.
"It says in your clause that you may return to Russia, so for returning to Russia we will suspend you."
Here is the link where Barnett says how dissapointed he is and that they expected him to report to the AHL. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=186427&hubname=nhl
All I can say is that this seems to me like poor assett management by teams. First Ottawa with Kaigodorov (sp?) and now Phoenix with Lisin. If you bring a guy in from you better be ready to keep him. There was already a precedent for this type of thing witht he Ottawa situation. Barnett should have known better.
Edit: I see the link was already posted above