Series Talk: ECQF: Carolina Hurricanes vs New York Islanders (CAR Leads 3-1)

[BMOK33]

I sort of suspect the league is gonna end the shenanigans from the Carolina account beginning next year after this. It was only a matter of time and I am surprised as I said yesterday that Bettman has not had someone step in on this already. FYI UBS event staff has been told to look at posters and signs tomorrow night because some facebook groups have been stating they'll bring signs with the Carolina PR names etc on them to the game

 

[Svechhammer]

I sort of suspect the league is gonna end the shenanigans from the Carolina account beginning next year after this. It was only a matter of time and I am surprised as I said yesterday that Bettman has not had someone step in on this already. FYI UBS event staff has been told to look at posters and signs tomorrow night because some facebook groups have been stating they'll bring signs with the Carolina PR names etc on them to the game

All of this because NYI fans couldnt handle a one word tweet

Charmin f***ing soft

And no, the league won't do anything. You all just need to chill the f*** out a bit. Even thinking you'll bring a sign to a game with personal contact information of someone to spread for the direct purpose of promoting harassment is insane. But also real easy for prosecutors to ring up criminal and civil charges on given they'll be photographed holding the evidence.

 

[Stickpucker]

Even though Carolina is up 2-0, it's not like they were easy wins. Even in a game that they completely dominated it went down to the wire. No reason to think it will get an easier for the Canes on the road.

I'd agree.

I think the NYI have played the Canes pretty well.

 

[BMOK33]

I'd agree.

I think the NYI have played the Canes pretty well.

Its debatable. I said last night to me the Caps have played better wall to wall in their 2 games. Its more that for them their goalie has allowed 2-3 bad goals

 

[saintunspecified]

Here's my take on the (over)reaction by Nelson. Guentzel blows by him, pissing him off. Gives him a couple of slashes trying to make him miss but mostly out of frustration. Guentzel, pumped, fires it extra hard into the net. This causes Nelson to take an even bigger slash at Guentzel whereby he to turns to yell "woooh!" (or F-you?) into Nelson's face. Then Nelson (and Palmieri) really lose it.

Like I said, lame. Not sure what that proves other than being sore losers. Maybe there was something in-game between Guentzel and Palmieri/Nelson? Maybe the stick getting stuck in Varlamov's mask? Dunno...

Well. I didn't see the game (was observing Passover). But tbh from all the talk about it I thought it would be worse. It's stupid, for sure. And totally in line with what I've seen in the playoffs (recalling Kucherov slashing then "cup checking" JGP).

Seems like it was a curse for the Islanders to catch fire in the regular season. Because they really are a team that might have been better off selling players. Still, perhaps when the free agent feeding frenzy is happening, contending teams will consider the value of adding goal scorers with only one year commitments (Nelson, Palmieri).

Again, didn't watch the game, but it strikes me that playing JGP is a mistake. He's a one-trick pony these days (faceoffs). He's lost a lot of strength. Better to shuffle without the center, and play someone who can at least maintain body position (Fasching).

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Yes, the league is going to clamp down on the Canes for tweets like “CRY”, “THEY’RE SO MAD” and “JAKE WITH THE EMPTY NETTER!”.

 

[FrozenKing18]

Twitter is a cesspool

 

[Svechhammer]

Yes, the league is going to clamp down on the Canes for tweets like “CRY”, “THEY’RE SO MAD” and “JAKE WITH THE EMPTY NETTER!”.

obviously the problem here is those tweets, not the *checks notes* fans who are stalking our employees, sharing their contact details, and threatening them on their personal devices.

 

[BrindAmours Army]

I sort of suspect the league is gonna end the shenanigans from the Carolina account beginning next year after this. It was only a matter of time and I am surprised as I said yesterday that Bettman has not had someone step in on this already.

<1% chance. If anything, more teams will begin using social media in the way that the Canes are.

It's phenomenal marketing. Entertaining as hell for Canes fans, and riles up opposing fanbase leading to high engagement levels.

For people that are not hockey fans, if they see stuff like that there is a very good chance they find it funny, and maybe that's enough to convince them to go to their first hockey game, or even just start watching on TV.

If the NHL wants the sport to grow, being entertaining on and off the ice is a great way to do it.

 

[Svechhammer]

<1% chance. If anything, more teams will begin using social media in the way that the Canes are.

It's phenomenal marketing. Entertaining as hell for Canes fans, and riles up opposing fanbase leading to high engagement levels.

For people that are not hockey fans, if they see stuff like that there is a very good chance they find it funny, and maybe that's enough to convince them to go to their first hockey game, or even just start watching on TV.

If the NHL wants the sport to grow, being entertaining on and off the ice is a great way to do it.

The league doesn't know its ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to growing the game. The league will put teams in underserved and unrepresented areas, but the second the actual culture of those areas starts being shared, the old hats and grey hairs lose their f***ing minds because its not whitebread stoicism that they were used to since the Great Depression. Don Cherry losing his shit because the Canes clapped after a win at home riled up a base that thinks anything fun doesn't really belong in the game and you should treat everything with the game of hockey with the utmost respect and aura as if we're talking about formal military proceedings.

The sad part is, places Raleigh and the fans in it have long been the butt of a 'hockey doesn't belong there' joke in the league. And the same people who perpetuated that mindset cannot handle it and cannot deal with it when those undeserving fans develop their own voice and suddenly they themselves become the butt of the joke for once.

 

[Idiot Stick]

i mean, everyone is following their tweet to the letter apparently

 

[MinJaBen]

If the NHL wants the sport to grow, being entertaining on and off the ice is a great way to do it.

Well, you've now convinced me that the NHL will ban all Twitter engagement.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Sadly, this type of behavior from fans towards social media people from pro sports teams is not uncommon. They are also typically amongst the lowest paid (I was shocked when I found out some of their salaries). I knew a women who did the social media accounts for an NHL team and their AHL affiliate. She had what amounted to a mental break and was on disability after the harassment she received from opposing fans. It was unbelievably brutal.

 

[Derailed75]

Sadly, this type of behavior from fans towards social media people from pro sports teams is not uncommon. They are also typically amongst the lowest paid (I was shocked when I found out some of their salaries). I knew a women who did the social media accounts for an NHL team and their AHL affiliate. She had what amounted to a mental break and was on disability after the harassment she received from opposing fans. It was unbelievably brutal.

Ya know that Thanos was right meme.....

 

[pld459666]

This is hysterical

 

[Derailed75]

This is hysterical

I wonder if those Isle fans that are harassing the Canes social media director are harassing Barstool too?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Jeez, I actually feel bad for them. Maybe it was the music.

Switch it with curb music and you’ll feel better about it.

 

[FourRings]

The league doesn't know its ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to growing the game. The league will put teams in underserved and unrepresented areas, but the second the actual culture of those areas starts being shared, the old hats and grey hairs lose their f***ing minds because its not whitebread stoicism that they were used to since the Great Depression. Don Cherry losing his shit because the Canes clapped after a win at home riled up a base that thinks anything fun doesn't really belong in the game and you should treat everything with the game of hockey with the utmost respect and aura as if we're talking about formal military proceedings.

The sad part is, places Raleigh and the fans in it have long been the butt of a 'hockey doesn't belong there' joke in the league. And the same people who perpetuated that mindset cannot handle it and cannot deal with it when those undeserving fans develop their own voice and suddenly they themselves become the butt of the joke for once.

First, what that Isles fan did on social media (re: doxxing/threats) was unacceptable and there's no room for that. But, and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think 'CRY' and 'THEY'RE SO MAD' are indicative of the hockey culture in Carolina. The team is routinely solid and tweets like that are beneath them, IMO. The tweets are innocuous but childish.

 

[BMOK33]

I wonder if those Isle fans that are harassing the Canes social media director are harassing Barstool too?

Barstool has constantly made fun of Frankie Borrelli forever. I can’t remember who it was in 2019 who was live streaming a podcast during the Isles/Pens first period of game 1 and was cheering for the Pens to tie it just to spite him and when the Pens tied it he screamed “F you Frankie Borelli!”.

 

[tarheelhockey]

First, what that Isles fan did on social media (re: doxxing/threats) was unacceptable and there's no room for that. But, and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think 'CRY' and 'THEY'RE SO MAD' are indicative of the hockey culture in Carolina. The team is routinely solid and tweets like that are beneath them, IMO. The tweets are innocuous but childish.

I actually do agree with this. I thought there was a noticeable difference in tone on the Twitter account for that game:








That’s a different “voice” than the more snarky, pop-cultured one we’re used to seeing. For whatever reason, they took on (for lack of a better word) an almost fratty shit-talking tone for that game. Having come down off the emotional high, I don’t love that persona for the Canes and I don’t enjoy them trying to pose as some “bad boy” brand which they are definitely not. There’s already been over-the-line blowback to this whole thing, and there will be more to come in the future when they take tough Ls.

Based on Civian’s tweet it sounds like someone different may have been running the account that night, so maybe that explains it. Hopefully they figure it out and get back to the brand persona that took years to build into a social media machine.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

You know what's really soft? Harassing, doxxing, and sending death threats to the people running a social media account because that account did this:



Team had to scrub their site of any mention of who was running the accounts to protect them and their families due to the harassment they were getting.

And no, the person was not fired

Isles fans are just as big of losers as the team.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Is there anything significant to this? Or is this just more overreacting to overreacting to overreacting

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Is there anything significant to this? Or is this just more overreacting to overreacting to overreacting

Speaking of overreacting, Iskhakov may play in game 3...

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Speaking of overreacting, Iskhakov may play in game 3...

That’d be nice, need a little offensive flair in the bottom six

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Twitter is lame

Agree. I deleted my account about 6 months ago. It sucks trying to keep up with hockey insiders, but I'm fine with it. Everyone posts stuff here from twitter anyhow.