Early look for 2021 draft

[JustJokinenAround]

I hope we get 1st overall and draft Beniers. Because what that would tell me is Yzerman has identified him as and elite center. And I’ll take Yzerman scouting over all these douchers any day, after the seider pick.

the power move would be to not win the lottery and get beniers and then take shane wright next year when we win the lottery.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

the power move would be to not win the lottery and get beniers and then take shane wright next year when we win the lottery.

Take all the centers.

 

[Gniwder]

Take all the centers.

Stevie's quite adept at trading, having too many centers won't be a bad thing.

 

[Christien]

How does Luke Hughes compare to Jake Sanderson?

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

the power move would be to not win the lottery and get beniers and then take shane wright next year when we win the lottery.

The Power move would be... well, you know.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

How does Luke Hughes compare to Jake Sanderson?

Better offense worse defense

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I did a ton of flying and airport lounge sitting yesterday so I got an opportunity to listen to more eliteprospects podcasts.

They love Beniers, and even Craig Button is comparing Beniers to Kesler "without a single elite offensive tool". If memory serves, Kesler didn't really have any elite offensive tools either. Still, he was a Selke caliber 2C.
They believe that Eklund is having a better year this year than Raymond and Holtz were during their draft year and is at the very least a prospect on the same level. The EP team love his two-way play and attention to detail. No mention of him jumping to center, though. I wouldn't be surprised to see Beniers and Eklund go 2/3 in this year's draft.

EDIT: There was also talk about Simon Edvinsson being a tremendous talent and how he reminds them both of Philip Broberg. This is exactly what I feared and why I want to stay away from him.

I'd like to hear more about some of the CHL guys but I understand that it may take a minute. I think we're all still a little hazy on who are going to be the guys to watch in the late 1st to the 3rd round this year.

Sidenotes:
Mark Yannetti from the LA Kings sounds like a f***ing moron. And looking at the LA Kings draft record from the time he took over as director of amateur scouting makes Tyler Wright look like a stable genius.

Seattle sounds like it's in pretty good hands with Ron Francis and Robert Kron, 2 former Hartford Whalers/Carolina Hurricanes. I don't get the feeling they'll build the Vegas way and look to be a competitor ASAP. I think they'll go the more traditional route and look to compete within 3-5 years. Kron was also the head European scout for Carolina for a few years so the Kraken are a team that I think will heavily invest in its international scouting early on.

Darren Yorke of the Carolina Hurricanes is doing a hell of a job and after listening to how he talks about prospects, and how his team has really embraced analytics early, you can see why Carolina has been a team on the rise. I like his philosophy of picking high talent and compete level regardless of draft rank, when explaining the Zion Nybeck and Alexander Pashin picks close in the late rounds. A lot of other teams like to use those picks on big guys with less talent in these rounds, and I think that's a total waste. Hopefully with Yzerman on board we develop a similar philosophy.

Craig Button sounds like a more reasonable and level headed person when on the EP podcast. Why is he such an idiot when on other networks?

 

[wingerdinger]

I did a ton of flying and airport lounge sitting yesterday so I got an opportunity to listen to more eliteprospects podcasts.

They love Beniers, and even Craig Button is comparing Beniers to Kesler "without a single elite offensive tool". If memory serves, Kesler didn't really have any elite offensive tools either. Still, he was a Selke caliber 2C.
They believe that Eklund is having a better year this year than Raymond and Holtz were during their draft year and is at the very least a prospect on the same level. The EP team love his two-way play and attention to detail. No mention of him jumping to center, though. I wouldn't be surprised to see Beniers and Eklund go 2/3 in this year's draft.

EDIT: There was also talk about Simon Edvinsson being a tremendous talent and how he reminds them both of Philip Broberg. This is exactly what I feared and why I want to stay away from him.

I'd like to hear more about some of the CHL guys but I understand that it may take a minute. I think we're all still a little hazy on who are going to be the guys to watch in the late 1st to the 3rd round this year.

Sidenotes:
Mark Yannetti from the LA Kings sounds like a f***ing moron. And looking at the LA Kings draft record from the time he took over as director of amateur scouting makes Tyler Wright look like a stable genius.

Seattle sounds like it's in pretty good hands with Ron Francis and Robert Kron, 2 former Hartford Whalers/Carolina Hurricanes. I don't get the feeling they'll build the Vegas way and look to be a competitor ASAP. I think they'll go the more traditional route and look to compete within 3-5 years. Kron was also the head European scout for Carolina for a few years so the Kraken are a team that I think will heavily invest in its international scouting early on.

Darren Yorke of the Carolina Hurricanes is doing a hell of a job and after listening to how he talks about prospects, and how his team has really embraced analytics early, you can see why Carolina has been a team on the rise. I like his philosophy of picking high talent and compete level regardless of draft rank, when explaining the Zion Nybeck and Alexander Pashin picks close in the late rounds. A lot of other teams like to use those picks on big guys with less talent in these rounds, and I think that's a total waste. Hopefully with Yzerman on board we develop a similar philosophy.

Craig Button sounds like a more reasonable and level headed person when on the EP podcast. Why is he such an idiot when on other networks?

Thats exactly how i feel. if we need to fill out the bottom lines with some grinders you can always find those types through college/euro fas. Filling a team up with enough skill is the tougher aspect of building a roster and should always be prioritized thru the draft.

 

[Frk It]

Sidenotes:
Mark Yannetti from the LA Kings sounds like a f***ing moron. And looking at the LA Kings draft record from the time he took over as director of amateur scouting makes Tyler Wright look like a stable genius.

I think the Kings have drafted really well over the last 3-4 drafts or so.

Craig Button sounds like a more reasonable and level headed person when on the EP podcast. Why is he such an idiot when on other networks?

I don't always agree, but I like listening to Button and respect his POV.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I think the Kings have drafted really well over the last 3-4 drafts or so.



I don't always agree, but I like listening to Button and respect his POV.

Look at their drafting from 2008 to 2019.

 

[lilidk]

Just watched Power shift by shift against Wisconsin. He looks very , if we get him in about 5 years Power- Seider would be something

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I don't always agree, but I like listening to Button and respect his POV.

What I like about Button is that he tries to make very realistic (in a qualitative sense) NHL comparisons. He doesn't compare everyone to the ten best guys in the league. This of course pisses off fans of certain prospects. I also think he is generally more intellectually honest about the challenge and uncertainty of drafting 18-year-old athletes and how scouts think about players than most public scouts.

I don't, however, assign too much importance to his rankings apart from the noted outliers. I don't think he watches enough U18 hockey to truly do it justice as a one man show.

 

[Killerjas]

I like his philosophy of picking high talent and compete level regardless of draft rank, when explaining the Zion Nybeck and Alexander Pashin picks close in the late rounds. A lot of other teams like to use those picks on big guys with less talent in these rounds, and I think that's a total waste...

Carolina has been doing really well in the draft for the last couple of years. They have been going for boom/bust picks like Pashin while we went for Draper & Aucoin. I really like Carolina's draft strategy, wish we take notes going for potential in the later rounds.

 

[Frk It]

Carolina has been doing really well in the draft for the last couple of years. They have been going for boom/bust picks like Pashin while we went for Draper & Aucoin. I really like Carolina's draft strategy, wish we take notes going for potential in the later rounds.

Lol... not like we have drafted Kivenmaki or Tyutyayev or anything. Not a single team in the NHL drafts players like that in the 7th round every year.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Carolina is clearly a step above the rest of the league. They’ve nailed so many picks the last decade. Pesce, Slavin, Aho, Foegele, Drury, Geekie, Necas, Jarvis. Plus all the new kids the last year or two. Gotta give credit where it’s due.

 

[Henkka]

Carolina is clearly a step above the rest of the league. They’ve nailed so many picks the last decade. Pesce, Slavin, Aho, Foegele, Drury, Geekie, Necas, Jarvis. Plus all the new kids the last year or two. Gotta give credit where it’s due.

Interesting to see how everything will slowly dry up after Ron Francis left to Seattle.

 

[Gniwder]

Interesting to see how everything will slowly dry up after Ron Francis left to Seattle.

Did he take the scouts with him?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Did he take the scouts with him?

Not all. He took Robert Kron who was their head of European scouting for the Necas and Aho picks. Kron is Seattle's director of scouting.

 

[Gniwder]

Not all. He took Robert Kron who was their head of European scouting for the Necas and Aho picks. Kron is Seattle's director of scouting.

Thanks, got lazy and decided to ask instead of Goggling it. I live 90 miles north of Seattle.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Thanks, got lazy and decided to ask instead of Goggling it. I live 90 miles north of Seattle.

Then you are in for some good hockey over the next 5 years or so! You're really close to the border. Go see some Canucks games! (When there's no more global pandemic I mean) When I lived in Seattle I used to make the drive for games against Detroit. It's a great arena.

 

[Larkin2AA]

FC Hockey (nhlentrydraft.com)

This bad boy is back up and running again. I was addicted last year, however I can't tell you much outside the top 15 players lol.

 

[HisNoodliness]

Maybe I just need to watch them more, but I'm having trouble creating any seperation in my rankings this year. Normally there's a few prospects that I watch and think "yeah I totally want him." Last year it was Stutzle, Drysdale and Rains for me.

I rate Power number one but that's almost more out of laziness than anything. He looks good when I see him, but doesn't jump out at me. Luke Hughes looks good, Edvinson looks good. Beniers and Johnson look good. Nobody is becoming my favorite prospect. I feel like I'd be just as happy picking 4th as 1st...

So who is the prospect that jumps out for you and why? Convince me to love someone.

 

[Frk It]

 

[lilidk]

Maybe I just need to watch them more, but I'm having trouble creating any seperation in my rankings this year. Normally there's a few prospects that I watch and think "yeah I totally want him." Last year it was Stutzle, Drysdale and Rains for me.

I rate Power number one but that's almost more out of laziness than anything. He looks good when I see him, but doesn't jump out at me. Luke Hughes looks good, Edvinson looks good. Beniers and Johnson look good. Nobody is becoming my favorite prospect. I feel like I'd be just as happy picking 4th as 1st...

So who is the prospect that jumps out for you and why? Convince me to love someone.

It's 4mounth till draft, it's like you said so many to choose from. Let's wait and see, who is going to step up and separate himself from the rest. We should get that person, no meter position he plays

 

[lilidk]

I'd get Power just for his name