Draft Order

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  1. Dr.Sens(e)

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    Can't remember how it works. I know Buffalo's pick becomes the last pick in round 1, but do the other picks get sorted by playoffs, or simply revert to the regular season standings after Buffalo is shifted to #30? I think it's the latter, but can't remember.
     
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    Buffalo drafts 30th, everyone else is in regular season order, so Boston is 29, I'm 28...

    *** EDIT: It's been reported that with the new CBA, the NHL places Division winners at the end of the draft, just before the Stanley Cup Champion. (It didn't apply last year because of the missed season). As a result, this year, Washington (SE Division winner) will actually pick after Detroit and Philadelphia, even though those teams had more points. ***
     
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    Instructions for 2006 HFNHL Entry Draft

    As a follow-up to Matt's e-mail, here is an expanded list of instructions regarding how the entry draft will run - please take the time to review and ask any questions in advance, as there may not be time during the draft itself. This applies to new AND old GMs, as there are some changes this year.

    Thank you!


    2006 HFNHL Entry Draft – Instructions

    1. Draft Dates
    Rounds 1-3 of the 2006 HFNHL Entry Draft will be held LIVE on
    Saturday, June 17th at 10:00 AM EST (GMT -5:00). The results of the live rounds of the draft will be posted (as an Excel file in the Yahoo "Files" section) shortly after the conclusion of Saturday's activities. Rounds 4-7 are not held live – GMs are required to submit a draft list for those rounds to the Commissioner ([email protected]) by 11:59 PM EST on Thursday, June 22nd. While it is acceptable for a list to simply state "Choose the highest NA player available from the CSB rankings", a more detailed list is ALWAYS preferred.

    2. Live Draft Location
    Subject to further notice, the draft will be held in the HFNHL's MSN chatroom, to which there is a link on the league homepage. The chatroom will also be open prior to the draft for teams wishing to discuss trades (in fact, in past years there has been significant chat activity in the days leading up to the draft). We advise that all GMs take the opportunity to check into the chat room at some point in the days prior to the draft to ensure you can connect.

    3. Trade Freeze & Draft Order
    Beginning on Wednesday, June 14th at 4 PM (EST), a trade freeze will go into effect until the start of the draft (so as to finalize the draft order). The final draft order will be posted shortly thereafter. The Director of Player Personnel or his designate will indicate how he wishes to administer trades, which will resume with the commencement of the draft.

    4. Responsibility of GMs
    IF YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND, you must submit a list detailing your preferred selections to the commissioner ([email protected]) no later than 11:59 PM (EST) on Thursday, June 15th. You may give another GM written permission to draft for you, in the form of an e-mail to the commissioner. However, it is still suggested that you provide a draft list, as you will be held responsible should the designated GM fail to attend and draft for you. (Frankly, it’s recommended that all GMs submit a list or instructions – even if they plan to attend - as a precaution in the event of unforeseen complications, such as connection issues, car accident, a giant asteroid hitting the earth, etc.). Please note that Assistant GMs must also receive permission to make selections for their team, via advance notification to the Commissioner. In the event that the Commissioner is himself unable to attend the draft, another league member will be appointed to handle draft instructions, etc.

    5. Failure to Fulfill GM Responsibilities
    Short of regularly submitting lines, there's nothing more vital to a GM's duties than participating in the entry draft. Should you fail to have your team represented at the live draft, either in person or through clear instructions provided on time, you will face termination from your GM position. The same is true of failure to submit instructions regarding rounds 4-7 of the draft (even if you decide to forgo your remaining picks, you must do so through active instruction, not default). Unlike previous years, no picks by absent teams will be forfeited, as that unduly punishes the incoming GM (we’re serious about stripping teams from absent GMs, you see…). Picks for absent teams will be made based upon the CSB rankings (NA player will be chosen in the event of a tie with a Euro player in the rankings).

    6. Draft Eligibility – General
    Prospects eligible to be drafted include those on the CSB final
    rankings. More generally, all North American players born between
    January 1, 1986 and September 15, 1988 and all non-North American
    players 18 years of age or older as of September 15, 2006 are
    eligible. (North American players with birthdates in 1985 or prior are Unrestricted Free Agents, assuming of course that their rights are not already held by another HFNHL team, and will be available to be signed during the Free Agency period that takes place later in the summer).

    7. North American vs. Non-North American
    For the 2006 HFNHL Entry Draft, non-North American players of any age must be drafted before they can sign with an HFNHL team (examples from previous years include Roman Cechmanek and Lubomir Visnovsky). North American players include any player who played in an organized league in North America during the 2005-06 season. (For example, a Russian-born player who toured Canada with the Russian national team would still be considered non-North American; if the same player lived in North America during the season and played in the USHL, they would be considered North American for the purposes of this rule).

    8. Draft Eligibility – NHL vs. HFNHL
    Be aware that there are several players that are still available to be drafted in the NHL (or are shown as eligible on the 2006 CSB Draft list) that have already been drafted in the HFNHL. The reverse is also true: players drafted in the NHL may not have been drafted in the HFNHL. A review of the final CSB list may be provided to indicate those listed players that have already been drafted, but it is ultimately up to the individual GM to determine whether the player they wish to draft is in fact available.

    9. Draft Eligibility – Opt-outs
    Prospects are no longer able to opt-out of the entry draft – any player with a birth-date in the window is eligible. For unranked players, it is up to the GM to provide evidence that the player’s birth-date makes them eligible.
     
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    Here's the baseline draft order. The Stanley Cup Winner drafts last in each round. Division winners draft 5 or 6 of them, (depending on whether a division winner wins the cup) draft 29th or earlier.

    Actual team selection order in each round will depend on pick movement as a result of trades. The round-by-round order in effect at the beginning of the draft will be released following the trading freeze on Wednesday June 14th. Trading resumes with the start of the draft, so the actual team selection order may change.

    The first round order is slightly different as a result of the draft lottery - in this round, Nashville (which won the lottery) picks first, followed by Colorado, Toronto and Dallas, with the rest of the round proceeding normally. In all other rounds, Nashville picks 4th.

    Round 1

    1 NAS#
    2 COL
    3 TOR
    4 DAL
    5 PHX
    6 LAK
    7 PIT
    8 ATL
    9 NYR
    10 VAN
    11 CAR
    12 FLA
    13 MTL
    14 CGY
    15 TAM
    16 CHI
    17 ANA
    18 STL
    19 NYI
    20 OTT
    21 PHI
    22 MIN
    23 DET
    24 WAS*
    25 EDM*
    26 NJD*
    27 SJS*
    28 CBJ*
    29 BOS*
    30 BUF**

    # - Lottery winner moves up - first round only
    * Division Winner
    ** Stanley Cup Champion


    Rounds 2-7

    1 COL
    2 TOR
    3 DAL
    4 NAS
    5 PHX
    6 LAK
    7 PIT
    8 ATL
    9 NYR
    10 VAN
    11 CAR
    12 FLA
    13 MTL
    14 CGY
    15 TAM
    16 CHI
    17 ANA
    18 STL
    19 NYI
    20 OTT
    21 PHI
    22 MIN
    23 DET
    24 WAS*
    25 EDM*
    26 NJD*
    27 SJS*
    28 CBJ*
    29 BOS*
    30 BUF**

    * Division Winner
    ** Stanley Cup Champion

    (EDITED to adjust NYI and STL positions, based on discussion in thread about tiebreakers, added lottery winner)
     
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    Just curious, but wouldn't the Blues be 18th in stead of the Islanders?

    Same amount of points and wins, but the Blues have more losses (41-32) v the Islanders who were (41-31). Not sure how you determined the tie breaker in our case, but I would think the record would be the first tie breaker.
     
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    That's the tie-breaker thats normally used and based on that, St Louis should be slotted into the 18th spot.
     
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    My bad, had the tie-breaker being goals for. Both teams had the sdame number of wins, I forgot that in the OT point world, you'd have teams with fewer losses but the same number of wins and points. Weird.

    The change has been made.
     
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    Doug, Nashville won the lottery, so I should get the first overall pick :)
     
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    Shut up you fairy! You don't exist! Nobody listen to Tony! He's just something in my imagination! There was no lottery! Colorado still rules supreme! Stanely Cup, here we come!
     
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    Oh, yeah, that little thing... ;)

    Fixed.


    (EDIT: And Ville - Nurse Ratchet says its time for you to take your meds... :help: )
     
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    oh ville, i'm so sorry :) any further complains to matt, please

    Thanks Doug, don't let yourself be put under pressure by colorado's unlucky lobby :)
     
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    should the unranked players birthdate (probably along with some official website) be included right on the list?
     
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    That would probably be a good idea. It would save some work...
     
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    While draft lists seem to come in all shapes and sizes, with widely varying levels of detail, here are a few suggestions as to what your draft list should include:

    1) Player's name
    2) Player's 2006 CSB ranking, if applicable (i.e. #2 NA Skater, #7 EUR Goalie, etc.)
    3) Player's current team and league (i.e. Cape Breton-QMJHL, Sodertalje-SEL, etc.)
    4) If player was drafted in the NHL in a previous year, please indicate draft year and drafting team
    5) If player was not previously drafted in the NHL, and was not ranked by CSB, please indicate "CSB-NR"

    If you're attempting to draft a player previously drafted in the NHL, please verify that the player hasn't already been drafted in the HFNHL, as this has caused a lot of problems in the past. In addition, if you draft a player that was not ranked by the CSB, and it turns out that the player was ineligible for reasons of age, etc., that pick will be forfeited.
     
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    Be sure to search BOTH the rosters and the prospect list (the player may have been signed), and search for first name and last name separately - spelling variations have caused GMs to miss the fact that a player has already been drafted, and thereby waste their pick.
     
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    Clarification around Draft Guideline #7 - North American vs Non-North American

    To clear up a potentially misleading piece of the eligibility puzzle, please see the following revised content for section 7 of the draft primer:


    7. North American vs. Non-North American
    For the 2006 HFNHL Entry Draft, non-North American players of any age must be drafted before they can sign with an HFNHL team (examples from previous years include Roman Cechmanek and Lubomir Visnovsky). In order to be considered North American, a player must have lived in North America and played in an organized league during the 2005-06 season PRIOR to them having been drafted by an NHL team.

    For example, an undrafted Russian-born player who toured Canada with the Russian national team would still be considered European. If the same player played in the WHL during the 2005-06 season, he would be considered North American. If the player had already been drafted by an NHL team in a previous entry draft, and then played this year in the WHL, he would still be considered European.

    (N.B.: This rule will change next year (2006-07 HFNHL Season) to reflect changes in the NHL CBA, but for this year, these are the rules in effect.)
     
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