Don Granato is the worst coach in the nhl.

[93LEAFS]

We heard this about Bylsma, Kruger, Housley, and now Granato.

At what point does it become the team may suck. And, if it is on the coaches, what gives people any faith the Pegula's can actually hire someone.

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

You can have Mike Sullivan after Dubas finally fires him.

 

[Beerz]

We heard this about Bylsma, Kruger, Housley, and now Granato.

At what point does it become the team may suck. And, if it is on the coaches, what gives people any faith the Pegula's can actually hire someone.

It's not mutually exclusive.

There are holes in this teams roster construction and Don Granato is a bad head coach.

 

[hatterson]

They’ve repeatedly hired mediocre coaches and then surrounded them with a poor organization and poor player talent.

 

[beowulf]

A lot of Sabers are having bad years that is for sure. Seems like a new tradition now, during camps people say this is the year they break out, the reality sets in...

 

[Warden of the North]

We heard this about Bylsma, Kruger, Housley, and now Granato.

At what point does it become the team may suck. And, if it is on the coaches, what gives people any faith the Pegula's can actually hire someone.

Agreed. Much like Ottawa, I just did not see it with the Sabres. People put way too much stock into late season hockey every year.

I also think they're far worse off after the Eichel trade.

 

[pekka55]

How many coaches have they gone through the past decade? Easy to blame the coaches when the whole organization sucks from top to bottom.

It starts with accountability. The organization seems to have a mentality that losing and sucking is ok. No big deal, we're just here to have some fun and cash paychecks.

It's not one part in particular, it's the sum of all parts that sucks. Owner sucks, GM sucks, coaches suck, players suck. The answer isn't just "coach sucks" when you've been sucking 12 years straight and gone through many coaches.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

We heard this about Bylsma, Kruger, Housley, and now Granato.

At what point does it become the team may suck. And, if it is on the coaches, what gives people any faith the Pegula's can actually hire someone.

Those were completely different rosters. Are you saying maybe it’s rotten from ownership on down? Because that I could maybe agree with.

 

[Fatass]

Catch 22 in buffalo. Keep it fun so players stick around. Fun hockey loses games.

This ^^^
The Sabres top minute guys don’t play the type of game needed to be winners. A coach like Torts would get them playing the right way. But would any coach have that kind of clout in Buffalo, considering your comment on keeping players?

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

We heard this about Bylsma, Kruger, Housley, and now Granato.

At what point does it become the team may suck. And, if it is on the coaches, what gives people any faith the Pegula's can actually hire someone.

Are any of those guys you listed HC anywhere since they left Buffalo? Considering how many retreads this league has you would think at least one of them got hired by fluke chance.

 

[Mattilaus]

How many coaches have they gone through the past decade? Easy to blame the coaches when the whole organization sucks from top to bottom.

It starts with accountability. The organization seems to have a mentality that losing and sucking is ok. No big deal, we're just here to have some fun and cash paychecks.

It's not one part in particular, it's the sum of all parts that sucks. Owner sucks, GM sucks, coaches suck, players suck. The answer isn't just "coach sucks" when you've been sucking 12 years straight and gone through many coaches.

Can't fire the owner and can't get rid of every player on the roster, so what exactly would you have us do? If we made a thread about firing Adams you and the others in here would just be saying "How many GMs have they had in the past decade?" as a reason to not fire him.

So we stay with a bad coach just because we have had a bunch of bad coaches previously? How does this make any sense whatsoever? Have any of those previous coaches gone on to be a head coach anywhere else in the NHL?

 

[pekka55]

Can't fire the owner and can't get rid of every player on the roster, so what exactly would you have us do? If we made a thread about firing Adams you and the others in here would just be saying "How many GMs have they had in the past decade?" as a reason to not fire him.

So we stay with a bad coach just because we have had a bunch of bad coaches previously? How does this make any sense whatsoever? Have any of those previous coaches gone on to be a head coach anywhere else in the NHL?

I'm not saying that some of the blame shouldn't be on the coach. What I'm saying is that no matter how many coaches they've gone through the past 12 years, they've still sucked. The problem is way more complex and deep than "coach sucks".

 

[BB79]

Don Granato is to coaching what Fanatics is to sports merchandise.

And Pegula is to this franchise what mold is to a potato. We need a new owner. Pegula sucks. Rigas was a crook but at least the team was winning under his tenure. Pretty sad, we're better off with a felon for an owner than a legit one

 

[Mattilaus]

I'm not saying that some of the blame shouldn't be on the coach. What I'm saying is that no matter how many coaches they've gone through the past 12 years, they've still sucked. The problem is way more complex and deep than "coach sucks".

I agree, but again, we can't fire the owner. So what's the plan?

 

[pekka55]

I agree, but again, we can't fire the owner. So what's the plan?

Then the plan is to just suck the next x amount of years. I mean it seems to be totally impossible to get adult professional athletes to give 100% every season, so maybe just fold the team and move it to Alaska or something.

 

[Mattilaus]

Then the plan is to just suck the next x amount of years. I mean it seems to be totally impossible to get adult professional athletes to give 100% every season, so maybe just fold the team and move it to Alaska or something.

Who is responsible for making sure the adult professional athletes give 100% every game? Could it be the coach? So now you see where we are at. The coach has failed to have them ready to play. So you fire him and try a new one. Doesn't matter how many we have had previously. He is the 6th longest tenured coach in the NHL. How much more time does he get just because we have had a bunch of coaches apparently?

 

[sabremike]

We heard this about Bylsma, Kruger, Housley, and now Granato.

At what point does it become the team may suck. And, if it is on the coaches, what gives people any faith the Pegula's can actually hire someone.

If Keefe got sacked and was replaced by any of the guys you just mentioned the entire city of Toronto would melt down worse that Chernobyl.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Just to be clear- this was a game the Sabres desperately needed to win to make the rest of the season matter in any way. They started with a 2-0 lead, utterly dominant 3/4 of a first period. Gave up a late one, of course.

And then it’s 3-3 after two periods, we’ve somewhat lost it but are still tied. Edmonton seemingly adjusted between 1st and 2nd, we were somewhat lucky to even it up.

And then the Oilers score 5 in the third. In a must win game for us. It’s not even like McDavid and Drai beat us up, 1 goal between them- but plenty of apples, because they came up with a game plan, adjusted, and are a somewhat coherent team for longer than a period at a time. Because Conor Brown got a goal and an assist. Because they have a new coach.

Oh, and the goalie who has largely saved our bacon the last 3 months- we left him in for all 8 and the embarrassment of a Brown goal, because that’s coaching, baby.

Man, can’t do this team no more. See y’all more around playoffs, I guess.

 

[Voight]

We heard this about Bylsma, Kruger, Housley, and now Granato.

At what point does it become the team may suck. And, if it is on the coaches, what gives people any faith the Pegula's can actually hire someone.

It's management too. They should have hired a well respected, seasoned executive instead of... Kevyn Adams.

 

[Satoru Gojo]

Coaches like Granato, Cronin, Eakins, and Vincent are the reason why teams keep going back to the "retreads" as those coaches actually know what they're doing unlike these rookie hires that seem to flop more often than not

Sabres might want to look into Jay Woodcroft, but for some reason I see them reaching out to Todd Mclellan

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Playoff race swings be wild.

 

[KeyserSoze81]

I can only imagine how Sabres fans feel.... unless you're one of those weirdos who gets pleasure from pain.

I wasn't born this way, but after watching 2 decades of futility on the Bills, and watching the Sabres have cup worthy teams in '99 and 05-07, only to have terrible ownership ruin it all driving the top players away shortly thereafter... Now 13 years without playoffs, multiple top picks under new owners who presented themselves as new blood who would supply the team with all the resources it needs (before cutting everything to the bone)...

After a certain point, you just have to start enjoying the creative ways that the teams screw it all up. Every dysfunctional team is terrible in its own way. There is an art to truly bad management, and you need to appreciate it for what it is. With a different perspective, it can provide a lot more enjoyment that a winning team ever could. Would the Harlem Globetrotters be fun to watch without the bumbling Washington Generals?

 

[pekka55]

Who is responsible for making sure the adult professional athletes give 100% every game? Could it be the coach? So now you see where we are at. The coach has failed to have them ready to play. So you fire him and try a new one. Doesn't matter how many we have had previously. He is the 6th longest tenured coach in the NHL. How much more time does he get just because we have had a bunch of coaches apparently?

If a coach needs to tell players to give it their all, then you're in deep shit. f***ing amateurs in Buffalo.

 

[hatterson]

As mentioned there’s also significant roster issues, specifically at forward.

They have very, very little top line NHL talent. They’ve got Dahlin who is solid on defense and Power who looks like he could be very good but is still really young, but it’s incredibly hard to win in this league when you can’t even assemble a single line that could realistically be considered a game changing line.

 

[Buff15Sabres]

Are any of those guys you listed HC anywhere since they left Buffalo? Considering how many retreads this league has you would think at least one of them got hired by fluke chance.

No, none of the drought era coaches have gone on to be a HC in the NHL for a different team.

Since we fired Ruff in 2013 we've gone through

Ron Rolston
Ted Nolan
Dan Byslma
Phil Housley
Ralph Krueger
Don Granato (current)

I wouldn't be shocked if Housley gets another chance, or MAYBE Bylsma, but the rest of those clowns will never sniff the NHL again.