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Do you think the NHL should address the LTIR/playoffs issue?
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The exact percentage can be negotiated. The idea, though, is to keep it within reason.
But if the ideal solution is to get your player to delay surgery so that he can return just in time for playoffs, then is that actually a ruleset that you want to keep unchanged?
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It's not even that teams like Vegas and Tampa should be punished for their cap circumvention - it's actually pretty impressive how they adapt to find loopholes in the way it's written. If anything, they should be lauded for their resourcefulness.
I think it's moreso a testament to how much better the sport would be for everyone involved - fans, franchises, players, etc - if there wasn't a hard cap in place that only serves to stifle creativity and opportunity. I understand why it exists from the owners' POV, but in regards to how the league operates, the hard cap is one of the dumbest, most mind numbing things in sports. ****ing brutal system
I think it's moreso a testament to how much better the sport would be for everyone involved - fans, franchises, players, etc - if there wasn't a hard cap in place that only serves to stifle creativity and opportunity. I understand why it exists from the owners' POV, but in regards to how the league operates, the hard cap is one of the dumbest, most mind numbing things in sports. ****ing brutal system
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Matt Murray did it, delayed surgery 5 months, until season started, now playing in the AHL getting in game shape.
And you know all of the facts and reasoning behind it? You have seen the medical reports and understand the what and why of the delay? Or are you speculating?
Do you really think the Leafs would risk the penalties of what you are claiming over Matt f’ing Murray? Teams have been stripped of first round picks for far less…
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You claim it did. You have no idea what was done over the summer to try to prevent the surgery, or what the medical advice of the Dr was. You have no idea what Matt Murray's willingness to do the surgery during his offseason was.
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How does a hard cap stifle creativity? Is it that creative to just say a bigger number than everyone else? The hard cap requires much more creativity.
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If that's true (which I don't believe), then why are we even having this discussion? We can just leave LTIR as it is.
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I mean creativity from a roster construction standpoint. The hard cap ties most competitive teams' hands and prevents them from making significant trades, or signing impactful free agents. Love them or hate them, Vegas makes a ton of bold, creative roster moves. The league should find ways to encourage those sorts of moves, rather than making them near impossible to execute.
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Just an idea.
If you are on LTIR between trade deadline and the end of the year. Disqualifies you from round 1 of playoffs.
If you are on LTIR between trade deadline and the end of the year. Disqualifies you from round 1 of playoffs.
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They didn’t Need to replace him because here he is ready to play.
Like others have said, the roster you ice in the playoffs should have to be cap compliant.
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It doesn't take much creativity to build a roster when you have unlimited funds at your disposal. A trained monkey could do that.
Creativity comes into play where you need to find the right players at the right dollar amount to fill out your roster.
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That's a load of crap.
What if its someone who was on LTIR long before the trade deadline? Their team gets screwed over now?
Also the NHLPA will never agree to any measure that prevents players from playing.
Ace Card Bedard
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This is the obvious answer of course.
If the league were serious about the issue it would be fixed this easily.
They're not.
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Does it?
I'm not entirely sure.
Players are not getting paid so it's not having any effect on their salaries.
It would just be a roster management rule for GMs.
What argument would the NHLPA have for objecting?
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It does , it’s a change to CBA/MOU
Being told the players can’t play obviously.
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Nobody said they can't play.
They can play, on a cap compliant roster, the same as during the regular season.
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This point keeps getting brought up, but it's the wrong argument. There are already measures that prevent players from playing. Just being put on LTIR means you have to miss 10 games and 24 days. Players can be suspended. A team can't be over cap during season so teams play shorthanded.
So the argument that players would never agree to a reasonable rule that prevents them from playing is just plain wrong.
In the idea you're addressing, the player can still play, if the team decided they wanted to make room for him in the event he may be available for round 1. It's not that unreasonable. If a team can reasonably expect a player to be available, then make room for him. If not, then go do your LTIR thing. It's not the measure that would prevent a player from playing, it would be the team.
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