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ESPN thinks Matthews is the best player in the playoffs. What do they know about hockey?
Do players not play through injuries anymore (Nylander)?
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ESPN thinks Matthews is the best player in the playoffs. What do they know about hockey?
He did tie the game that led to the ot winner (our only damn win) with a broken sternum, but yeah he was basically done after that.
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Rantanen was concussed near the end of the regular season. He missed a total of 2 games and was back on the ice after like 4-5 days.
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1. The Leafs saying he's a game time decision doesn't actually make it true. It's quite possible they knew he wasn't going to be in the lineup, but want to keep the Bruins guessing. It wouldn't be the first time a team has done that.
2. Even if it actually was a game time decision, the injury not being "that bad" isn't something you can gauge based on that. Sometimes things can flare up and sometimes they can be manageable.
3. Just going out there and trying to be a hero isn't necessarily a good thing. If you're going to be a liability out there you should stay in the press box.
Players are battling through immense pain, especially the playoffs.
I thought baseless speculation was frowned upon here.
I thought baseless speculation was frowned upon here.
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Look at Weber, Price and Byron and the 2021 playoffs. By playing through the injuries they had that spring they basically ended their careers. Going back further, Muller played through a badly separated shoulder in 1993. He was never the same player.
The Leafs should be deep enough to play a round without him. If they can get through the first round, and he's able to play, they're better for it. I don't see much point in trying to play on something that could be made worse, result in requiring surgery, and keep you out of the lineup into the next season.
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It's fun to dunk on the Leafs but Nylander is one of the rare Leafs' players that showed up in past playoffs. Until some news says otherwise, I don't doubt he wants to play but just isn't healthy enough.
Why are swedish players so hated here? Nylander, Karlsson, pettersson always ragged on
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Because they are not built like Landeskog. The true Swedish warrior. You know, until the whole knee issue.
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It depends, some injuries you can't play through.
For example, what if he's having serious vision issues cause of a head injury? You can't really play through something like that.
For example, what if he's having serious vision issues cause of a head injury? You can't really play through something like that.
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Sometimes, it's okay to say that you don't know something rather than starting a topic thread about it being a "new age thing."
As others have pointed out here, it's often not in the team's best interest to play through an injury.
As others have pointed out here, it's often not in the team's best interest to play through an injury.
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Kind of a bad take considering last year Tkachuk was playing for a while through a broken sternum, Ekblad and others also through considerable injuries, Draisaitl not long ago through a high ankle sprain and Landeskog through a knee injury that has now ended his career, etc. The list is exhaustive and I'm probably forgetting countless other injuries from last playoffs players played with alone that I just cant remember off the top of my head atm. We never know what a player is playing with or through, and to assume that Nylander is dealing with an injury that he could play through is just silly. If Nylander could play, he would, regardless of what your narrative is about him or Toronto.
Depends on the injury?
Sure maybe he could play and be at 20% but not really heal so if Toronto does get past Boston you have a Nylander who is still at 20%. Or you let him heal cause him in his current state wouldn't be a difference so IF you do get past Boston, you get a huge boost when he is healthy.
It all depends on the injury and how well you can function with it. That and every injury effects different kinds of players differently. Like a 4th liner can easily play with a broken hand or finger or something, guys who stick handle and shoot lots might not be able too without it having a huge impact.
Sure maybe he could play and be at 20% but not really heal so if Toronto does get past Boston you have a Nylander who is still at 20%. Or you let him heal cause him in his current state wouldn't be a difference so IF you do get past Boston, you get a huge boost when he is healthy.
It all depends on the injury and how well you can function with it. That and every injury effects different kinds of players differently. Like a 4th liner can easily play with a broken hand or finger or something, guys who stick handle and shoot lots might not be able too without it having a huge impact.
Players in recent years have played with torn acls, broken ribs, broken wrists, broken sternums etc, it's gotta be something more serious if he's missing time. Rumors were head injury, no idea if there's any truth to that. But assuming it's a concussion or head/neck injury, you have to be very careful trying to play through that, that's the kind of re-injury that can end a career.
Again we don't know for sure what his injury is, but no players as a whole are not soft, they are more educated and a lot of old practices don't take place now. Guys playing with destroyed knees/concussions only to have significant long term injuries/difficulties later in life.
Again we don't know for sure what his injury is, but no players as a whole are not soft, they are more educated and a lot of old practices don't take place now. Guys playing with destroyed knees/concussions only to have significant long term injuries/difficulties later in life.
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If he is suffering from migraines as he has in the past, I can't imagine trying to play through a severe migraine. The physical exertion is enough, but adding the sound of 20,000 fans could be debilitating.
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Reason for William Nylander's playoff absence hard to pin down
Elliotte Friedman reports on the ailment that has kept Toronto Maple Leafs winger William Nylander out of the lineup for the first three playoff games.
I hope so. NHL needs to seriously update their policies regarding injury handling. Just about ALWAYS players return too early, play injured, and ruin their long-term health, their team's long-term success, and their own happiness.
In hockey, there's this toxic culture that it's "cool" or "tough" to play injured and sacrifice yourself for the team. That's such a short-sighted way of thinking. If the teams aren't able to be responsible on their own, there needs to be an external body that forbids players from playing injured.
In hockey, there's this toxic culture that it's "cool" or "tough" to play injured and sacrifice yourself for the team. That's such a short-sighted way of thinking. If the teams aren't able to be responsible on their own, there needs to be an external body that forbids players from playing injured.
I think you've mistaken this thread for the the Badminton one a few clicks away....Come on, most players work their entire lives to play in the Stanley Cup playoffs. If it is concussion related, don't play, that's the one injury where it is 100% justified to miss games. All the rest, real hockey players/warriors play through it, there are hundreds of stories of Hall of Fame players that played through many injuries, and had very long careers. Look up Bob Gainey playoffs, and there are so many others.
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This. Not to mention if he did try to play through it and made a mistake due to not being able to think properly, all the people here chirping him for not playing would instead be calling him bad.If he is suffering from migraines as he has in the past, I can't imagine trying to play through a severe migraine. The physical exertion is enough, but adding the sound of 20,000 fans could be debilitating.
Reason for William Nylander's playoff absence hard to pin down
Elliotte Friedman reports on the ailment that has kept Toronto Maple Leafs winger William Nylander out of the lineup for the first three playoff games.
Dumb thread is dumb.
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All I'm getting from this post is "bald=tough".
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While the above is true - every concussion issue is completely independent and you can't use one player's experience to establish a precedent or baseline because of the massive variability based on severity and the impact of prior concussions.
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