Prospect Info: Dmitri Kostenko, RHD, - (VHL Rights Traded to Yugra)

[ForeverHabs97]

 

[WeThreeKings]

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[jaffy27]

I'm not a fan of this pick, my least favourite pick so far. I don't see his NHL potential, he doesn't have the brain for it and doesn't play physical enough to be a good primary defender.

Honest question…..have you been following this player and scouting him or is this based on second hand info or what you’ve read?

 

[Adam Michaels]

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Andrew deleted it and reposted it.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Andrew deleted it and reposted it.

Ah yes - I am baffled as to why a guy who is using a translator to speak english is being told to learn french.

Clown move.

 

[bcv]

i don't really believe they told him to learn french.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Ah yes - I am baffled as to why a guy who is using a translator to speak english is being told to learn french.

Clown move.

Has there ever been even one russian player for the Habs who could speak any french? Like, ever ? I honestly can't think of one, outside of one or two words for the cameras I mean.

 

[donghabs98]

i don't really believe they told him to learn french.

My guess is that they probably learned he spoke a little french and told him he should freshen up on it. Because I do agree that it would be odd for the Habs to tell prospects with no french to learn it (especially when English isnt one of your main languages)

 

[WeThreeKings]

Has there ever been even one russian player for the Habs who could speak any french? Like, ever ? I honestly can't think of one, outside of one or two words for the cameras I mean.

I don't think so - I mean most of them have had just a passable level of english.

 

[Schwang]

Ah yes - I am baffled as to why a guy who is using a translator to speak english is being told to learn french.

Clown move.

Gee. I wonder why players don't want to play in Montreal? Seriously, have they not thought that this would scare players away? You're there to play hockey and win, not take bloody French lessons!

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I don't think so - I mean most of them have had just a passable level of english.

Even that was iffy at best for a lot of them .

 

[Astormynight]

I think it's funny how peoples project themselves into players.... Oh no they told a Russian player that know a little of French that it would be cool if he gets better .. now he is scared to death I am sure... For a lot of European/Eurasian speaking three or four languages is not a big deal.... I know, I know .. how dare someone speak three languages!

EDIT: yeah I lived in Europe for a year and in the countries I was it was not rare to see people speaking 3-4 languages... heck the first waitress i talked to on the first day i was there spoke like 8 languages...

And before jumping on me, I don't think hockey players HAVE TO speak French to play here, but I do not see what's so wrong about telling a player it could be cool to speak French... plus it tells that player they believe in him enough that they picture him here..

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think it's funny how peoples project themselves into players.... Oh no they told a Russian player that know a little of French that it would be cool if he gets better .. now he is scared to death I am sure... For a lot of European/Eurasian speaking three or four languages is not a big deal.... I know, I know .. how dare someone speak three languages!

EDIT: yeah I lived in Europe for a year and in the countries I was it was not rare to see people speaking 3-4 languages... heck the first waitress i talked to on the first day i was there spoke like 8 languages...

And before jumping on me, I don't think hockey players HAVE TO speak French to play here, but I do not see what's so wrong about telling a player it could be cool to speak French... plus it tells that player they believe in him enough that they picture him here..

It's a ridiculous thing to tell a player during your first zoom call with them, who still doesn't speak the language of the league, coaching, etc.

 

[Astormynight]

It's a ridiculous thing to tell a player during your first zoom call with them, who still doesn't speak the language of the league, coaching, etc.

I can understand that .. but we don't know the context of it. I guess my point is that's that's a ridiculous thing to get worked up over... they asked him to speak French... okay maybe they should not have but it's not like it's a huge mistake.

 

[TesseractPrice]

I think it's funny how peoples project themselves into players.... Oh no they told a Russian player that know a little of French that it would be cool if he gets better .. now he is scared to death I am sure... For a lot of European/Eurasian speaking three or four languages is not a big deal.... I know, I know .. how dare someone speak three languages!

EDIT: yeah I lived in Europe for a year and in the countries I was it was not rare to see people speaking 3-4 languages... heck the first waitress i talked to on the first day i was there spoke like 8 languages...

And before jumping on me, I don't think hockey players HAVE TO speak French to play here, but I do not see what's so wrong about telling a player it could be cool to speak French... plus it tells that player they believe in him enough that they picture him here..

Yeah people from the Balkans and around are incredible at learning languages. I knew this women from Moldavia who was 20 and spoke 5 languages fluently

 

[Saundies]

I can understand that .. but we don't know the context of it.

Exactly.. Could have been like a cheeky joke and he just took it serious due to the language barrier.

Commentators say it all the time when we draft someone (in a normal draft year).

"Hope he knows how to speak french!"

Might have been an endorsement of his skill. "Learn how to speak french because you're gonna be here someday" kind of thing.

Highly doubt it's that serious.

 

[Film Noir]

Every players on the Canadiens take a few French lessons. They're working in a francophone province so it's pretty useful to know the basics (oui, non, merci, passe moé la puck). It shouldn't be scary, it should be exciting!

 

[WeThreeKings]

I can understand that .. but we don't know the context of it. I guess my point is that's that's a ridiculous thing to get worked up over... they asked him to speak French... okay maybe they should not have but it's not like it's a huge mistake.

I don't think it's a huge mistake.. just an annoyance.

 

[Astormynight]

I don't think it's a huge mistake.. just an annoyance.

I can understand that! Thank you for your replies.

 

[417]

It's a ridiculous thing to tell a player during your first zoom call with them, who still doesn't speak the language of the league, coaching, etc.

You don't know the context that it was said in...

Maybe it's the obligatory "Hey now you're going to have to learn french hahaha" type of thing we routinely see whenever the Habs draft/sign/trade for a player.

 

[Boardish]

It's a ridiculous thing to tell a player during your first zoom call with them, who still doesn't speak the language of the league, coaching, etc.

What’s more ridiculous is your overreaction based on a tweet. You have no idea of the context in which it’s been said, but clearly it fits your agenda, so you’re happy to jump on this.

 

[Walrus26]

Every players on the Canadiens take a few French lessons. They're working in a francophone province so it's pretty useful to know the basics (oui, non, merci, passe moé la puck). It shouldn't be scary, it should be exciting!

"Donnez-moi un jeteur de flamme, sil vous plait."

Everyday French essential for non-Francs right there.

 

[Just Linda]

Honest question…..have you been following this player and scouting him or is this based on second hand info or what you’ve read?

Wouldn't say I've been following him, I dont watch MHL/VHL games much (haven't watched any this year). He did play a bit of international if I'm remembering him right, not a whole lot but I believe I've seen at least a few of those.

Usually I watched about 10 minutes of game tape on each of the top 100ish prospects at some point (for those that have it available) but I only managed about 30-40 this year before the draft (and then the rest of the Habs picks after). It's not a lot and it's a flawed assessment but I try to see if it matches the reports on a guy. I'm in a couple discord groups that make those vids quite easy to find so long as you contribute yourself.

So I'm not usually as familiar with players before the draft as a scout would be (I'm slowly realizing that dream will never happen lol) but I've watched limited on him.

 

[Astormynight]

"Donnez-moi un jeteur de flamme, sil vous plait."

Everyday French essential for non-Francs right there.

Try with " lance-flamme" ... If you ask for a " jeteur de flamme" you'll probably get some weird guy trying to throw fire in the garbage bin .. not judging you if it's what you want...

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

This guy sounds pretty toolsy. The pick reminds me slightly of the Struble pick.