Speculation: Did Torts pull his goalie KNOWING Detroit tied the game and the Flyers were already eliminated?

[Steve Yzerlland]

He needed to win in regulation regardless. Getting up to the minute updates would only be so that he could change his strategy to choose what other teams he wanted to help.

Altering his strategy seems like it would be shadier than going with the strategy he came in with.

And I still don't care either way. He can do what he wants

After Detroit scored he didn't need anything. And no one asked if you cared. The thread is about did he f***ing know they were out and did it anyway....

 

[RedWingzz]

Felt like it was faster than this

it wasnt...I had time to cheer, run to the kitchen in excitement, come back, watch the replay, try to compose myself. Then the game officially went to OT, and then after this, while our game was 100% sure to go to OT (thus 100% eliminating Philly mathematically), Torterella pulled the goalie.

Again, I'm just estimating, but I'd say AT LEAST 2 minutes went by, probably closer to 2:30

 

[Hammettf2b]

What reason did I give? I said he is reckless. It was neglect and irresponsible

Is it? Or is it selfishness. I think he thought f*** you Detroit and Pittsburgh I don't care about you. I think he knew and was being a dick.


How convenient...

^^^

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I was watching both games and the Caps goal happened only seconds maybe a minute after the Wings tied the game. I truly don't believe he knew.

If that is the case then fine. I can live with him genuinely not knowing but IF HE KNEW that's unethical as f***...

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

In the interests of fair play, the least Torts should have done is give Sanheim a goalie stick.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I was watching both games and the Caps goal happened only seconds maybe a minute after the Wings tied the game. I truly don't believe he knew.

This is how I experienced it. Again there are delays on feeds but it was pretty fast.

 

[Oddbob]

In the interests of fair play, the least Torts should have done is give Sanheim a goalie stick.

To be fair, Sanheim has a .002 save% when using the goalie stick.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I feel like the league should have intervened. Sort of like in a poker tournament on the bubble and you play hand for hand. The refs stop the game and face off at center ice formally informing the Flyers they are eliminated and put their goalie back in.

 

[RedWingzz]

If that is the case then fine. I can live with him genuinely not knowing but IF HE KNEW that's unethical as f***...

I just think its funny that most people out there are saying "Torterella admitted it during the post-game presser that he didnt know".

like we're giving that guy the benefit of the doubt of telling the truth??

at the end of the day, the Wings should have played better hockey earlier in the season to avoid being in that situation, and also, the NHL should have staggered the start time of both games to ensure something dumb like that didnt happen.

we'll never truly know if Torts knew or not, it seems like the majority of people are believing him, but I have my suspicions just based on how he has portrayed himself over the years. Could I see him do something like that on purpose? Absolutely I could. Do I think he knew, honestly I kinda do lol, but I'm clearly in the minority.

but yeah end of the day, the Wings should have played better hockey in the final month and a half, and none of this would matter

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I just think its funny that most people out there are saying "Torterella admitted it during the post-game presser that he didnt know".

like we're giving that guy the benefit of the doubt of telling the truth??

at the end of the day, the Wings should have played better hockey earlier in the season to avoid being in that situation, and also, the NHL should have staggered the start time of both games to ensure something dumb like that didnt happen.

we'll never truly know if Torts knew or not, it seems like the majority of people are believing him, but I have my suspicions just based on how he has portrayed himself over the years. Could I see him do something like that on purpose? Absolutely I could. Do I think he knew, honestly I kinda do lol, but I'm clearly in the minority.

but yeah end of the day, the Wings should have played better hockey in the final month and a half, and none of this would matter

100%. We blew it ourselves I'm not saying we aren't the cause of why we didn't get it. But if he knew he is an asshole and given his history I don't give this guy the benefit of the doubt!

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

I feel like the league should have intervened. Sort of like in a poker tournament on the bubble and you play hand for hand. The refs stop the game and face off at center ice formally informing the Flyers they are eliminated and put their goalie back in.

That is some of the funniest gd shit I have ever read on HF.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

That is some of the funniest gd shit I have ever read on HF.

So let's say the Wings game was over and they won in regulation the flyers should be allowed to play with no goaltender for no reason?

 

[Hammettf2b]

I feel like the league should have intervened. Sort of like in a poker tournament on the bubble and you play hand for hand. The refs stop the game and face off at center ice formally informing the Flyers they are eliminated and put their goalie back in.

HOF of bad takes right here.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

HOF of bad takes right here.

So the league should let a team quality for the playoffs on a empty net goal in a tied game? Because "he didn't know"? That's an acceptable outcome? Instead of stopping the game?

 

[chum]

question, what would be the motive?

does tort have any beef with red wings, or is he in love with ovechkin?

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I wish Montreal pulled their goalie for no reason.

question, what would be the motive?

does tort have any beef with red wings, or is he in love with ovechkin?

I think it was negligence and recklessness.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

During a TV time out... 6:11 mark of the video is my position

 

[jaster]

I get the frustration of missing the playoffs by a hair, but the idea behind this thread is quite a reach.

If I were Torts, and I was informed the Wings had scored to send their game to OT, right at the moment I'm about to pull my goalie.... I still pull my goalie. I'm on the bench, coaching my team in a critical moment, and I'm basically hearing via word-of-mouth that Detroit tied up their game. I'm not at the Bell Centre. I'm not even watching their game. Is there a chance the goal is being reviewed? Is there still time on the clock? Could Montreal still score in regulation to get the lead back? There's no way for him to know these things in the moment. Acting on them, only to find out later the Flyers fate wasn't actually sealed, would be disastrous. No reason to even take that chance.

Tortorella, NTA, no matter what conspiracy scenario we're concocting here.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I get the frustration of missing the playoffs by a hair, but the idea behind this thread is quite a reach.

If I were Torts, and I was informed the Wings had scored to send their game to OT, right at the moment I'm about to pull my goalie.... I still pull my goalie. I'm on the bench, coaching my team in a critical moment, and I'm basically hearing via word-of-mouth that Detroit tied up their game. I'm not at the Bell Centre. I'm not even watching their game. Is there a chance the goal is being reviewed? Is there still time on the clock? Could Montreal still score in regulation to get the lead back? There's no way for him to know these things in the moment. Acting on them, only to find out later the Flyers fate wasn't actually sealed, would be disastrous. No reason to even take that chance.

Tortorella, NTA, no matter what conspiracy scenario we're concocting here.

*Torts has entered the chat*

 

[GMR]

He said he didn't know but pulling your goalie with 3 minutes left is unusual. Most of the time you pull the goalie at 1:30 or so as a last resort. I don't watch enough flyers game to know if that's something he does regularly.

We pulled our goalie with about 3 minutes remaining Monday night.

 

[jaster]

I was watching both games and the Caps goal happened only seconds maybe a minute after the Wings tied the game. I truly don't believe he knew.

Not picking on you at all here, just using this as an example of how everyone keeps asking the time between when Detroit tied their game and Torts pulled his goalie. That is irrelevant. What people should be asking (the people who care about this, myself not included) is the time between the regulation horn sounding in Montreal and Torts pulling his goalie. As long as there was still time on the clock in the 3rd of the Wings game, there's still a chance the Habs win in regulation, and he'd be an idiot to change his strategy.

 

[chum]

I get the frustration of missing the playoffs by a hair, but the idea behind this thread is quite a reach.

If I were Torts, and I was informed the Wings had scored to send their game to OT, right at the moment I'm about to pull my goalie.... I still pull my goalie. I'm on the bench, coaching my team in a critical moment, and I'm basically hearing via word-of-mouth that Detroit tied up their game. I'm not at the Bell Centre. I'm not even watching their game. Is there a chance the goal is being reviewed? Is there still time on the clock? Could Montreal still score in regulation to get the lead back? There's no way for him to know these things in the moment. Acting on them, only to find out later the Flyers fate wasn't actually sealed, would be disastrous. No reason to even take that chance.

Tortorella, NTA, no matter what conspiracy scenario we're concocting here.

my thoughts exactly, except I wasn't able to put all these into words.

 

[jaster]

*Torts has entered the chat*

I wish I were Tortorella. I love hockey, and to be in the NHL in any capacity would be pretty cool

(if any NHL hiring managers are reading this, I promise I won't get drunk and piss in any drains.... and I sometimes even keep my promises)

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Not picking on you at all here, just using this as an example of how everyone keeps asking the time between when Detroit tied their game and Torts pulled his goalie. That is irrelevant. What people should be asking (the people who care about this, myself not included) is the time between the regulation horn sounding in Montreal and Torts pulling his goalie. As long as there was still time on the clock in the 3rd of the Wings game, there's still a chance the Habs win in regulation, and he'd be an idiot to change his strategy.

That's a fair point. As soon as the game went to OT but for the Wings to lose in 3 seconds from a puck drop at center ice would be a miracle...

 

[MabusIncarnate]

I feel like the league should have intervened. Sort of like in a poker tournament on the bubble and you play hand for hand. The refs stop the game and face off at center ice formally informing the Flyers they are eliminated and put their goalie back in.

You can't intervene on an assumption.