GDT: Devils vs. Red Wings - 7:30PM MSG+2

Camille the Eel

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They got too scrambely in the end, which is a bad trend of entire season

In fact we stunk, absolutely smelled, over the games's last 15 minutes. Not just scrambling but backed off, stopped pressuring the puck, lost our gaps, and except for a short handed goal do not win that game in regulation.

If all you watched was the last period, you don't take the greatest feeling away from that game.
 

Kurt Cobain

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Haha no!

I'm pretty sure the inside of the house where the Golden Girls was filmed was on a set in a studio and not inside a real home.

I only call it the Golden Girls kitchen because it looks a lot like their kitchen. I actually think they had nicer cabinets though haha. My house was built in 1980 and the kitchen has never been remodeled and looks like it's right out of the Golden Girls or some other 80's sitcom. I hate 80's kitchens, as they're even more dated and uglier than kitchen models and designs from the early 70's and earlier. I was looking at one other house about a block away, which was built in 79 but had a kitchen that was completely remodeled a few years earlier. It wound up selling for $20k cheaper than the house I bought, about a year later. Despite it being more expensive at the time I wound up buying this house. I like this house, but wanna blow the kitchen to smithereens haha. I just don't have a few grand to do it. I did put kitchen tile for the floor though, so it's a start. :naughty:

I even have the lanai like the Golden Girls did. People from Jersey who come to visit me always refer to it as "The Golden Girls" house and make cracks like "Where is Sophia? Did you put her in a nursing home?" But this is a common layout and architecture in my neighborhood. All of these houses look like the Golden Girls inside, unless they've remodeled. :laugh:

Gotcha! I know that aesthetic style you speak of very well. Those were interesting style times when it came to basically everything lol. Figured you meant something like this, since all shows are filmed on sets. I'll also willingly admit as a heterosexual male, that I actually really liked that show growing up. Then dated this girl later on in life, who was obsessed with the show and got me reacquainted with it. Interesting fact about the show, well maybe not that interesting, is that Bea Arthur was actually older in real life than the woman who played her mother Sophia. Always found that interesting. You can never guess correctly how old these damn actors are, I swear. I guess that just shows how good the makeup artists are. Now I actually feel like watchin the Golden Girls as I type this now.
 

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Missed the first half of the game and then couldn't get my stream to work for the second half, so I waited until this morning to catch the highlights.

Nice to see Zacha finding the scoresheet consistently.

Palmieri I feel like has been on the cusp of breaking out for a few months now. We see glimpses of last year but he wasn't able to translate it into points or bring it consistently. Nice to see him having some success, his year hasn't been nearly as bad as many were claiming.

Honestly, a few of those goals were pretty fortunate bounces for us. I won't complain, it's nice to finally get some bounces in OUR favor.

Great to see the special teams come up big but the 3rd period collapse is alarming. We aren't doing enough 5-on-5 to win.

Seems to me like two bad teams played a sloppy game and we just managed to generate a hair more than them. Won't complain but not really making me rest easy, either.
 

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I think Palm's always plays pretty hard, he get's in peoples faces, in general he plays with emotion (probably *****ing at the refs too much of late though) I thought he was a getting a bad rap early in the year for coasting, but imo that criticism stemmed from not putting up points. Now that he is scoring, people are saying he's playing better, but imo, the puck is just going into the net more.

Agreed. He has an edginess that I like to see which can impact games even when he's not scoring as much as we'd like.
 

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In fact we stunk, absolutely smelled, over the games's last 15 minutes. Not just scrambling but backed off, stopped pressuring the puck, lost our gaps, and except for a short handed goal do not win that game in regulation.

If all you watched was the last period, you don't take the greatest feeling away from that game.

At 4-1, for just a few moments I thought finally an easy win. Just a few moments. :shakehead
 

Kurt Cobain

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People always say it's in a bad area, but I suspect that's because it's Detroit. Kind of like how Newark is a bad city, so Prudential Center automatically gets negative and unwarranted heat because of that. When it's pretty safe by the arena.

From people that I know who have went to the Joe, it's not unsafe to go to. I have a friend that has walked from the arena to the hotel/casino a few times and at night in the dark and never felt uncomfortable at all. Detroit is a bad city, and there's some people that automatically wanna believe and have you believe that any place that has the city's name in its address, is automatically this dangerous place. The same could be said about Newark and a lot of bad cities. There's constant misnomers that any place that's in a bad city is automatically like being in the Wild Wild West.

Oh yeah people let their imaginations run wild, especially suburbans who lack city experience. The two most dangerous cities in America, are St. Louis ranked 1st and Detroit ranked 2nd. But you know they don't play game a with safety of fans when there's a Red Wings, same for Blues games. I would be shocked if it's in a safer or better area than where "the Rock" is. Still I'd gladly go to a game in Detroit with no concern at all. I'm sure the cop presence is immense during a Red Wings" home game.

As for Newark, I've worked there for the last ten years between my last two jobs. When I hear a Devils fan say something about the arena being in such a dangerous area, it makes me laugh. It's just middle class suburbans, mainly white people, letting their imaginations run wild and scaring themselves. That area is very safe during the day, no one will ever mess with you, and that goes a for a pretty wide radius around the arena. My job before the one I have now, I was a beer salesman, yes for a period of time I sold beer for a living. I'd park my car and walk blocks every few weeks, whenever I had to make sales in the Ironblund section, never once was I messed with. When there's a Devils game at night there are so many cops, you have nothing to worry about, similar to Yankee Stadium, which is in a much more dangerous area than "The Rock"is. My only problem is they could do a better job of removing the homeless people out of Penn station temporarily, when a Devils game is going on, some of them smell so bad you can smell them from 15 to 20 feet away, literally. I think that would go a long was in improving people's first impression of the area the arena is in. Especially when the weather is nice.

As for Newark as a whole, like I said before my last job was as a beer salesman, made good money doing it too. Even thought it was gonna be a career, because I was good at sales and was making over $70,000 a year doing it.'The distribution company I worked for unfortunately went bankrupt in last 2012, but while things were good they owned the rights to all Miller products, among many other alcoholic brands for Union and Essex county. No one else could sell those products to a bar or liquor store, within those two counties except us. So I have literally been in every single bar, dive bar, strip club and liquor store in Newark. I don't think too many people or anyone on this board can say that, so I've seen it all, and if you want to see a real dangerous areas of Newark, I can show you them easily. It will make you appreciate the location of the Prudential Center, immensely.
 

JimEIV

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They got too scrambely in the end, which is a bad trend of entire season

In fact we stunk, absolutely smelled, over the games's last 15 minutes. Not just scrambling but backed off, stopped pressuring the puck, lost our gaps, and except for a short handed goal do not win that game in regulation.

If all you watched was the last period, you don't take the greatest feeling away from that game.

At 4-1, for just a few moments I thought finally an easy win. Just a few moments. :shakehead

Probably nobody is going to agree with me and everyone will just dismiss it but that 2nd goal Cory gave up to Tatar from the wall was what started the scramble. They were playing a very good game until that. This team is fragile mentally, at least it appears that way to me. Your goalie either instills confidence in the team by letting them know if they mess up he's got it covered or they make the team grip their sticks a little tighter knowing one mistake could be a goal...

Cory hasn't instilled confidence all year.
 

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if youve never been you should go depending on your budget. the place is so simple. 2 levels and a who cares concourse. and thats it. no bells and whistles. i love the place.

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I dropped by in September 2014 for a preseason game (saw Connor McDavid play across the border in Windsor and then Auston Matthews play in Ann Arbor that same weekend). Sight lines were tremendous. This was my view from the "upper" deck.
 

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In fact we stunk, absolutely smelled, over the games's last 15 minutes. Not just scrambling but backed off, stopped pressuring the puck, lost our gaps, and except for a short handed goal do not win that game in regulation.

If all you watched was the last period, you don't take the greatest feeling away from that game.

I hate it when the most important thing in the world is to get fresh skaters on the ice. Not pressuring the puck deep in the other end, not mounting a counter attack, not trying to make a play, just change, at all costs change it up.

Imo it leads to the opposition consistently on the offensive while we are consistently on our heels.

This is by no means a Hynes thing, it's throughout hockey, but I think it is counter productive. And I think we feel into that last night.
 

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Probably nobody is going to agree with me and everyone will just dismiss it but that 2nd goal Cory gave up to Tatar from the wall was what started the scramble. They were playing a very good game until that. This team is fragile mentally, at least it appears that way to me. Your goalie either instills confidence in the team by letting them know if they mess up he's got it covered or they make the team grip their sticks a little tighter knowing one mistake could be a goal...

Cory hasn't instilled confidence all year.

I disagree with you on most stuff vis-a-vis Cory, but I agree that goals two and three were bad goals for him to give up and probably contributed to the scrambling at the end there.

It also was a pretty concerted effort by the PKers in those last two minutes to turn aside all those attempts (not sure if that last try at 5 seconds or so left was on net, but good on Cory to hang with that one).
 

Zippy316

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Probably nobody is going to agree with me and everyone will just dismiss it but that 2nd goal Cory gave up to Tatar from the wall was what started the scramble. They were playing a very good game until that. This team is fragile mentally, at least it appears that way to me. Your goalie either instills confidence in the team by letting them know if they mess up he's got it covered or they make the team grip their sticks a little tighter knowing one mistake could be a goal...

Cory hasn't instilled confidence all year.

If what you're saying is the case, that is just as much of a team problem as a Cory problem. No matter how bad the goal that your goalie let in (and goal #2 wasn't that bad), you shouldn't just lose your game because of it.

At the same time, Cory made about 3-4 stellar stops last night before the Wings even scored to begin with. Goal #2 was a classic case of how much the drop off is from our first PK unit to the rest of them and the Devils getting unlucky. Zacha did not get the puck out of the zone earlier and then wiped out right before the goal. When Zacha wiped out, JJ took the middle away which left Tatar wide open for a shot. Schneider should save it, but the Devils shouldn't (and likely don't if it hadn't been for Zacha wiping out) allow Tatar to get a shot off there with time and space.

Goal #3 was far more concerning to me than #2. The second goal will happen every once in a while, but I have no idea what he was doing on the third goal. It just made no sense the way he tried to recover.
 
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Gotcha! I know that aesthetic style you speak of very well. Those were interesting style times when it came to basically everything lol. Figured you meant something like this, since all shows are filmed on sets. I'll also willingly admit as a heterosexual male, that I actually really liked that show growing up. Then dated this girl later on in life, who was obsessed with the show and got me reacquainted with it. Interesting fact about the show, well maybe not that interesting, is that Bea Arthur was actually older in real life than the woman who played her mother Sophia. Always found that interesting. You can never guess correctly how old these damn actors are, I swear. I guess that just shows how good the makeup artists are. Now I actually feel like watchin the Golden Girls as I type this now.
I never watched it much when it was having it's original run in the 80's/early 90's. I remember thinking ''Why would I wanna watch this show about a bunch of old ladies?'' when I was a kid and it was on. Then I also had a girlfriend who watched the show when she was growing up and even sang the ''Thank you for being a friend'' song in a play or for a school program when she was in middle school. I bought her all the VHS's one year and I Love Lucy another year for Christmas. Back in the late 90's and early 00's when most people didn't have a DVD player haha. She bought me the entire All In The Family on VHS and we would marathon watch all of those shows and constantly be made fun of by her parents for doing so.

Rose was her favorite and she said how she wanted to look like Betty White when she got older. I told her that I hoped she didn't, because this girl had the most beautiful tan skin and Betty White was very fair/pale complexioned. The Golden Girls wasn't a bad show. I was just closed minded and misjudged it when I was young and it was on, about not wanting to watch a show about middle aged women because I couldn't relate to it. When we watched the series years later, I was able to appreciate it. My grandmother watched it when it was originally on, she was still younger than all of them, other than Blanche, who was 12-11 years younger than the other 3.

The one who played Sophia was actually a year younger than both Bea Arthur and Betty White in real life. Blanche was over a decade younger than the other 3. Mama's Family was another show where they had a younger woman, impersonating an older woman and playing a much older role. The main star of the show was over 15 years younger than the guy who played her son and her oldest daughter in the show was none other than Betty White, who was close to 30 years older than her in real life.:laugh:
 

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In fact we stunk, absolutely smelled, over the games's last 15 minutes. Not just scrambling but backed off, stopped pressuring the puck, lost our gaps, and except for a short handed goal do not win that game in regulation.

If all you watched was the last period, you don't take the greatest feeling away from that game.

That seems to be a trademark of what happens in almost every game in which we have a lead in. We get clobbered/outshot worse when leading than a lot of teams do. Although it is very common to be outshot when having a big lead. I don't think we're the worst team in the league with a lead, but we're definitely in the lower half when it comes to how many shots/chances we allow and how much time we spend in our end with a big lead. Even last year this was the case.

At the same time, I maintain that Cory had a bad game. I thought he took too much heat for the game he allowed 3 goals in the 1st period against the Kings, where none of them were bad goals. He didn't really play poorly enough that night to deserve to allow 3 quick goals like that, but last night was undoubtedly getting even on that one. It reminded me of Kinkaid's game against the Hurricanes last year, where he allowed just 2 goals on 30 or 32 shots or something, yet both were stoppable.
 

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some pictures from the game... building was really cool like previously said..very streamlined. one concourse and you could get to the upper or lower deck from the same section entrance.

It's my favorite away arena i've been to.

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