NJDevs26
Once upon a time...
- Mar 21, 2007
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Thank god it's over
Foote too.If nothing else, I am very impressed with Zetterlund, Bahl, and Okhotiuks showing this week or so.
Foote was better than I thought he would be. Hope he continues to improveFoote too.
Admittedly last weeks Detroit game I thought Foote looked very underwhelming but he redeemed himself a bit.Foote too.
Ain’t gonna be much better next season.Thank god it's over
What is this referring to? Stillman’s one assist in a juniors beat down compared to what?Back to Holtz having a Stillman postseason.
Stillman had .83 regular season Pt/G drop to .25 in the playoffs.
Lazy math would have Holtz at a postseason .41 down from his regular season .98 in a small three game sample size vs. Stillman's four playoff games.
If Utica wins the first round, the .41 is insignificant and might be enough for a deep run.
Even I'm not that negative lol...the key is HOW much better will it be - will we go from 65 points to 80-ish, or to borderline 90-ish? The former would be bare minimum of what I'd expect from a team that's presumably going to have at least one new staff member and goaltender, other younger players breaking into the lineup and Fitz having the cap space to make improvements (assuming he isn't a total 'process' GM, which judging by last offseason he shouldn't be), the latter would at least show some real chops out of Fitz because they just aren't getting to the 90 level next year without some real creative work this offseason.Ain’t gonna be much better next season.
You forgot to grade Graves on this list.Hughes, Nico and Bratt are amazing and will be for years. Having two locked up is great. Hope we can keep Bratt at a bit of a hometown discount. Same with Boqvist, Wood and Zacha on bridge deals.
Mercer is going to be a player.
Dougie H never really got back to what he showed at the beginning of the year after getting hurt.
Graves and Siegenthaler are solid. Good if we could extend Sevs at a reasonable price. Better if we can deal him as a rental. Better if Ty Smith comes out and plays great and we can deal him.
Maybe Bastian and Zetterlund are the real deal.
We unfortunately have Tatar and Johnsson for another year.
We need to be tougher to play against.
We need goaltencing.
We need to learn how to play some team defense.
Siegenthaler A-
Hughes A-
Bratt A-
Nico A-
Mercer B
Bastian B-
Zetterlund B-
Boqvist B-
Hamilton B-
Foote C
Sharangovich C
Zacha C
Severson C
Bahl C
McLeod C-
Vesey C-
Subban C-
Geersten C-
Dawes C-
Bernier C-
Johnsson A- first quarter F rest of the season
Blackwood D
Schmid D-
Tatar D-
Kuokkanen F
Hammond F
Ty Smith G
Gillies H
Wood inc
I'm not Holtz's biggest believer - and would have liked to have seen the spark from him we got out of Foote - but Boqvist got a lot more games of sucking at the NHL level getting the benefit of the doubt from people here, than Holtz has as a 20-year old rookie. It's especially amusing since people had the pitchforks out over the fact Holtz didn't make the team in the first place.This is even more depressing now with how everyone is down on Holtz. He was one reason I was optimistic for next year. I’ll, admit that he didn’t look Amazig or anything in his NHL games but he still had an excellent AHL season as a 19 year old kid . That’s got to be somewhat promising does it not?
Now I’m not sure what to think. I had him prematurely penciled into the starting roster and even in a top 6 role. However maybe it’s better to get a new player for the top 6 and hopefully ease him into the lineup. Maybe even another season in the AHL?
That sucks . I thought we could olug him into the lineup and he could maybe have a 20g 20a season ….
If he is looking like he will struggle as a NHL player, do we consider trading him ? Im not saying to shop him around but if a trade like Meier or Tkachuk comes around , should we consider doing that ?
I can’t believe that Hotlz has gone from an amazing prospect to people down on him after 2 recent NHL games !!?
This is even more depressing now with how everyone is down on Holtz. He was one reason I was optimistic for next year. I’ll, admit that he didn’t look Amazig or anything in his NHL games but he still had an excellent AHL season as a 19 year old kid . That’s got to be somewhat promising does it not?
Now I’m not sure what to think. I had him prematurely penciled into the starting roster and even in a top 6 role. However maybe it’s better to get a new player for the top 6 and hopefully ease him into the lineup. Maybe even another season in the AHL?
That sucks . I thought we could plug him into the lineup and he could maybe have a 20g 20a season ….
If he is looking like he will struggle as a NHL player, do we consider trading him ? Im not saying to shop him around but if a trade like Meier or Tkachuk comes around , should we consider doing that ?
I can’t believe that Hotlz has gone from an amazing prospect to people down on him after 2 recent NHL games !!?
It's a response from me to the closed thread saying hopefully Holtz has a better postseason than Stillman did this year (nothing to do with previous postseasons from either player but there you go again) and His13er saying that shouldn't be too hard.What is this referring to? Stillman’s one assist in a juniors beat down compared to what?
Not Holtz’s actual past playoff performances, that’s for sure. He had 4 points (2G 2A) in the SHL playoffs last year.
I don’t understand what Stillman has to do with Holtz or the AHL though.
Kid just posted the 2nd best G/GP 19 year old AHL season of all time in his first pro NA season and many posters are turning on him after 10 NHL games and improvements to his weaknesses throughout the season. The worst part is, as you said, I’m not even that surprised. A few weeks ago most were saying Bahl sucked ass and now that he’s had a few good games, he’s penciled into our defence next year.You can’t believe people are down on him? You can’t? Even a little?
This board turns on a drop of a hat.
Sal penciled Bahl in.Kid just posted the 2nd best G/GP 19 year old AHL season of all time in his first pro NA season and many posters are turning on him after 10 NHL games and improvements to his weaknesses throughout the season. The worst part is, as you said, I’m not even that surprised. A few weeks ago most were saying Bahl sucked ass and now that he’s had a few good games, he’s penciled into our defence next year.
There I go again? Your post made no sense and wasn’t replying to anything. I was trying to decipher it.It's a response from me to the closed thread saying hopefully Holtz has a better postseason than Stillman did this year (nothing to do with previous postseasons from either player but there you go again) and His13er saying that shouldn't be too hard.
Saw that, many posters did too. I liked Bahl’s play to end the year. It was mostly a testament as to how quickly the narratives can change around here based on not the biggest sample sizes at times. Wasn’t a shot at Bahl at all. As I said, I liked his play.Sal penciled Bahl in.