Confirmed with Link: Devils re-sign Mattias Tedenby

[SeidoN]

With Tedenby penciled in for next year we really don't need to draft a forward in the first round like all the "experts" are saying.

sorry but thats bananas

 

[kiwidevil]

The funny thing is posters will go back 5mins of play before a goal to show where Tedenby was the direct cause. While there was many times this year that goals were caused by Josefson's weak clears or getting muscled off the puck and people will find another excuses for him.

 

[Wingman77]

he needs to play with skilled players or its a waste...

He was given that chance DeBoer's first year with Henrique, Clarkson, and Zubrus and we saw him struggle then

Typically when you are that type of player that needs to be surrounded by good players, you are essentially a waste

Henrique, Clarkson and Zubrus are skilled enough players - if you need to be playing with a Kovalchuk or Parise (2 guys that are a dime a dozen and are hard to find on many teams), then like I said, you probably shouldn't be playing

 

[devilsblood]

The funny thing is posters will go back 5mins of play before a goal to show where Tedenby was the direct cause. While there was many times this year that goals were caused by Josefson's weak clears or getting muscled off the puck and people will find another excuses for him.

JJ was certainly lousy in 2013, much like Ted's was lousy in 2012. I didn't think Ted's was terrible or anything in 2013, certainly wasn't a very big sample, but for whatever reason Deboer did not like what he was seeing.

 

[manilaNJ]

Perhaps I'm confusing issues, but wasn't Tedenby playing through an injury before he got demoted? It took him a few days to even be able to play in the AHL.

It happened within the first couple of games in the season. I think that had a lot to do with everything. By the time he started picking up his game in Albany, he went through that horrific injury to the face.

 

[devilsblood]

Perhaps I'm confusing issues, but wasn't Tedenby playing through an injury before he got demoted? It took him a few days to even be able to play in the AHL.

It happened within the first couple of games in the season. I think that had a lot to do with everything. By the time he started picking up his game in Albany, he went through that horrific injury to the face.

It was mentioned as to the reason why he did not report to Albany right away. Can't say there was ever any great detail on the matter. Thought it might have been some BS.

 

[kiwidevil]

He was given that chance DeBoer's first year with Henrique, Clarkson, and Zubrus and we saw him struggle then

Typically when you are that type of player that needs to be surrounded by good players, you are essentially a waste

Henrique, Clarkson and Zubrus are skilled enough players - if you need to be playing with a Kovalchuk or Parise (2 guys that are a dime a dozen and are hard to find on many teams), then like I said, you probably shouldn't be playing

I think Teds just needs to be with people who can skate with him and are prepared to pass. Zubrus is a player who likes to take the puck to the boards and slow the game down, Clarkson does too, but he can create off a rush.

Teds would fit best as a type of Elias - Sykora pairing that likes to pass and keep skating expecting to receive another one back in a hurry. Teds speed draws Dmen to him and out of position which leaves space where he just came from.

 

[Wingman77]

I think Teds just needs to be with people who can skate with him and are prepared to pass. Zubrus is a player who likes to take the puck to the boards and slow the game down, Clarkson does too, but he can create off a rush.

Teds would fit best as a type of Elias - Sykora pairing that likes to pass and keep skating expecting to receive another one back in a hurry. Teds speed draws Dmen to him and out of position which leaves space where he just came from.

Trying to build a team, or part of one at least, around a single player who needs certain types of players to succeed is an inconvenience in building a team

 

[TaiMaiShu]

I'd like to see the Swedes play together for an extended amount on the third line against bottom six competition. A skilled third line should easily suit Tedenby and Yayo can easily hold that center spot down. A veteran winger like Zubrus or Clarkson, like some have mentioned, would make a great third line to start off with, all things considered.

But then there's that depth issue.

 

[kiwidevil]

Trying to build a team, or part of one at least, around a single player who needs certain types of players to succeed is an inconvenience in building a team

You are possibly right. But I was pointing out that Zubrus and Clarkson aren't exactly a good barometer of linemates to best assess Tedenby.

Saying that, this board is quite prepared to say, "you have to have Sykora play with Elias" and then want him back. Of course Syks was more proven, but when has Teds had a proper chance with anyone?

 

[manilaNJ]

I think Teds just needs to be with people who can skate with him and are prepared to pass. Zubrus is a player who likes to take the puck to the boards and slow the game down, Clarkson does too, but he can create off a rush.

Teds would fit best as a type of Elias - Sykora pairing that likes to pass and keep skating expecting to receive another one back in a hurry. Teds speed draws Dmen to him and out of position which leaves space where he just came from.

Tedenby - Elias - Zubrus has the potential to recreate the success of the geezer line from 11-12.
Written on paper, of course. But it'd be nice to see it get a look.

Trying to build a team, or part of one at least, around a single player who needs certain types of players to succeed is an inconvenience in building a team

When the depth is stretched the way it is? Yeah, it can be problematic.
Team was stuck in a similar situation with Sykora.
Despite his lack of flexibility, when the team had at least two solid lines to roll... having Sykora's skill set still paid off.

Put a legitimate first line together. Skate Tedenby with players who can make the most of what skills he has... it might work.

If it doesn't, it's $600k in the pressbox. No big deal.

 

[Wingman77]

You are possibly right. But I was pointing out that Zubrus and Clarkson aren't exactly a good barometer of linemates to best assess Tedenby.

Saying that, this board is quite prepared to say, "you have to have Sykora play with Elias" and then want him back. Of course Syks was more proven, but when has Teds had a proper chance with anyone?

When the depth is stretched the way it is? Yeah, it can be problematic.
Team was stuck in a similar situation with Sykora.
Despite his lack of flexibility, when the team had at least two solid lines to roll... having Sykora's skill set still paid off.

Put a legitimate first line together. Skate Tedenby with players who can make the most of what skills he has... it might work.

If it doesn't, it's $600k in the pressbox. No big deal.

There is a difference between Sykora and Tedenby, some big ones

Sykora proved throughout his career that he didn't need Patty, or certain players to play with to succeed, he did it plenty of times and it is evidenced by his stats, his on ice play, and his ability to reach the finals, what 5 times? Sykora was also aged last season and the fact that he played well with Elias just about all year gave DeBoer all the more reason not to split them, you don't fix what ain't broken

Tedenby hasn't proved anything in his career other than he can play for Lemaire with his Swede buddy Josefson and we've tried to fix Tedenby by moving him around with different linemates the past 2 seasons minus Kovy and Parise and to no avail it didn't work out

Can he be given better opportunities and not put under the microscope? Absolutely, but to have to go out of your way to cater to an unproven player to make your team isn't happening

 

[manilaNJ]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to compare the two players - literally.

I'm just saying that with the luxury of a bit of depth (not even 4 full lines just 2 solid lines and some reliable bottom 6ers who are flexible), you're not straining your resources to cater to one player.

If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. He's not cemented to that position, and the team isn't at any loss to try something else if he can't earn a cushy, custom made roster spot.

 

[Bleedred]

Just for fun and to make myself feel better, what if this were to happen? Supposed Tedenby is being packaged in a trade, right? Before someone says ''Well Tedenby has no value'' let me just say, obviously if this trade has any significance, Tedenby is just a small part of a package. Suppose Tedenby was signed cause the team we're doing this trade with wanted to make sure he didn't bolt overseas, so they wanted to make sure he had an actual contract to play here in North America before accepting him in the package?

For the last year a lot of us have been coming up with these scenarios, and a possible trade somewhere. I figured I'd join in.

 

[Brodeur]

This is pretty much sums up how I feel about Tedenby.

 

[Bleedred]

This is pretty much sums up how I feel about Tedenby.

This is how I feel about him!

 

[billingtons ghost]

This is how I feel about him!

At Tedenby's age - St Louis was lighting it up.... For the IHL Cleveland Lumberjacks. and St Johns Flames.

His first two seasons in the NHL (age 24) 4 goals, 16 assists in 69 career games.

Started on the top line with Fleury and got bought out.
He didn't register a goal for 6 weeks when getting to Tampa Bay, and then broke his leg.

It wasn't until he was 26 that he did much of anything for a full season.

So, I guess what I'm saying is... I hope you're right.

 

[Bleedred]

It was sarcasm. One day when he's 38, he'll lead the NHL in scoring for a season too.

This is the name he's always compared to. In fact that name comes up almost as much as Boulton and Barch do when talking about Tedenby.

 

[CerebralGenesis]

Can he be given better opportunities and not put under the microscope? Absolutely, but to have to go out of your way to cater to an unproven player to make your team isn't happening

This is essentially my take on Tedenby to the dot.

 

[glenwo2]

I wonder what abo thinks about this?

He's a big Boo supporter.


I, on the other hand, like to take a wait-and-see approach. As in "I will wait and see if Boo can finally start scoring some goals for us".


I wish Teddy all the luck in the world in that regard, though. lol.

He basically has lost more teeth than he has scored goals.

 

[devilsblood]

I wonder what abo thinks about this?

He's a big Boo supporter.


I, on the other hand, like to take a wait-and-see approach. As in "I will wait and see if Boo can finally start scoring some goals for us".


I wish Teddy all the luck in the world in that regard, though. lol.

He basically has lost more teeth than he has scored goals.

Definitly more stitches then goals.

 

[BenedictGomez]

At Tedenby's age - St Louis was lighting it up.... For the IHL Cleveland Lumberjacks. and St Johns Flames.

His first two seasons in the NHL (age 24) 4 goals, 16 assists in 69 career games.

St. Louis also was a perennial 20+ goal scorer at UVM (Go Cats Go!). Has Tedenby been a 20+ goal scorer anywhere?

 

[apice3*]

Tedenby and Clarkson were great linemates. I still have no idea why none of the coaching staff remember how good those 2 were with Josefson.

 

[SeidoN]

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Devils confirm they've re-signed Mattias Tedenby -- as reported yesterday.

 

[Rob Nieds work ethic]

St. Louis also was a perennial 20+ goal scorer at UVM (Go Cats Go!). Has Tedenby been a 20+ goal scorer anywhere?

Come on, Teddy has played in a real professional league and not school hockey. The comparison is laughable.