Prospect Info: Detroit Red Wings #6 Overall Pick - Part Deux

BinCookin

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I saw some highlight vids of Broberg, I like him.

How angry would everyone be if we picked broberg at 6?
Probably a lot because people will say "If you wanted broberg, should have traded back to pick #9"
 

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I just dont see how Bryam falls to us. If Chicago doesnt take him I think LA will after trading Muzzin away.

NHL teams dont draft for need. LA is bad, trading away Muzzin isnt going to make them draft a defenseman this year. They need talent literally everywhere in their line up. If they think a Podkolzin/Turcotte is a better player long term theyll take them. Byram might be gone before the wings pick, but theres a definite possibility he ends up there at 6.
 

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I don't think Chicago will take him, but I do think one of LA or Colorado will. Still hoping they don't though.
Byram scream heir apparent to Duncan Keith. All of Chi's prominent D prospects are RHD (Boqvist, Mitchell, Jokijaru, and Beaudin). I think Byram is a great fit for them.
I saw some highlight vids of Broberg, I like him.

How angry would everyone be if we picked broberg at 6?
Probably a lot because people will say "If you wanted broberg, should have traded back to pick #9"
i wouldn't be to enthusiastic about the pick....
 

Hen Kolland

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NHL teams dont draft for need. LA is bad, trading away Muzzin isnt going to make them draft a defenseman this year. They need talent literally everywhere in their line up. If they think a Podkolzin/Turcotte is a better player long term theyll take them. Byram might be gone before the wings pick, but theres a definite possibility he ends up there at 6.

No, but the growing discussion is that Byram is a top 5 player being the lone defenseman at the top of the draft. I put him at more likely to be gone than be available.
 

DRW204

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NHL teams dont draft for need. LA is bad, trading away Muzzin isnt going to make them draft a defenseman this year. They need talent literally everywhere in their line up. If they think a Podkolzin/Turcotte is a better player long term theyll take them. Byram might be gone before the wings pick, but theres a definite possibility he ends up there at 6.
I agree, LA is taking BPA that their scouts think. But it's fully plausible that Byram is a top 5 selection.
 

Steve Yzerlland

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I saw some highlight vids of Broberg, I like him.

How angry would everyone be if we picked broberg at 6?
Probably a lot because people will say "If you wanted broberg, should have traded back to pick #9"
We can trade down and get him
 

Frk It

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I saw some highlight vids of Broberg, I like him.

How angry would everyone be if we picked broberg at 6?
Probably a lot because people will say "If you wanted broberg, should have traded back to pick #9"

I’m not married to the consensus ranking, but there are other guys I’d prefer we reach on if we were to go that route. (Cam York)

Broberg is the kind of guy where it’s easy to get enamored with his highlights because of his ability to go end to end, but you have to really watch him play an entire game. I actually prefer his teammate Soderstrom, and I would not be surprised at all if the Wings did too.

I will try not to kill a pick too bad if they are Russian/Swedish, because I have no way to watch those players play in their respective leagues outside of the international tournaments. Plus I still have more faith in Hakan than most.
 
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izlez

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I saw some highlight vids of Broberg, I like him.

How angry would everyone be if we picked broberg at 6?
Probably a lot because people will say "If you wanted broberg, should have traded back to pick #9"
I'm all about trusting your scouts and taking the guy that you think is the best hockey player, regardless of where he is "ranked". So I wouldn't be upset with doing something like that.

Specifically with Broberg, I'm working on my personal "completely unqualified, watched a couple youtube videos" rankings, and I think I have Broberg settling in at #5 or #6, so I would be very happy with it. Of course, "trade down and get your guy!" is always the best idea in theory, but I don't think that's fair
 

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I saw some highlight vids of Broberg, I like him.

How angry would everyone be if we picked broberg at 6?
Probably a lot because people will say "If you wanted broberg, should have traded back to pick #9"

Mid to late first for me. He is a great skater and athlete, but I don't think he is overly skilled or creative with the puck.
 
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I really, really like what Zegras offers. I think that if you give him a few years to fill out his frame and round out his game, you could be looking at an electric offensive talent. Surprised more Wings' fans aren't discussing him.

After Hughes and Kakko, I'd have my 3,4,5 as Byram, Zegras, and Turcotte, but it's very close.
 
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Thoughts on Caufield?

Apparently Craig Button was on radio today and said he wouldn't bat an eye or be surprised if Cole Caufield went 3rd overall.
 

Frk It

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Thoughts on Caufield?

Good player...but very specialized/1 dimensional.

Think he goes closer to 20 than top 10 (probably falls in the middle, the teens). Despite the success of DeBrincat, I think teams will factor in more risk than people on here who don't have to put anything on the line evaluating him.
 
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izlez

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Thoughts on Caufield?

Apparently Craig Button was on radio today and said he wouldn't bat an eye or be surprised if Cole Caufield went 3rd overall.
I've become a big fan recently and would be happy if we ended up taking him at 6. He just knows how to get open and score to the point where I don't think you can ignore the production.

I compare his situation to how I looked at Quinn Hughes last year and the mistakes I made. Hughes obviously did a lot of good things but I was looking for reasons to not take him and leading up to the draft I did not want him. But the second the draft was over, I was left thinking how badly I wanted what Hughes did bring, that great skating and IQ. This year, I was looking for reasons to not like Caufield... but in reality I do love what he does bring and I would be very excited if he was on the team
 

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I really, really like what Zegras offers. I think that if you give him a few years to fill out his frame and round out his game, you could be looking at an electric offensive talent. Surprised more Wings' fans aren't discussing him.

After Hughes and Kakko, I'd have my 3,4,5 as Byram, Zegras, and Turcotte, but it's very close.
i am starting to like Zegras more and more. i do wonder if he makes it as a C in the NHL though or becomes a Mitch Marner-esque playmaker from the Wing.
 

Hen Kolland

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I don't like the talk of trading down. In the top 10, if we like Krebs or we like Zegras, just make the pick. Who gives a shit what the rankings suggest, moving down 3 spots on a hunch someone will be available isn't smart. We have a good number of higher picks with the 3 second rounders, there is no reason to focus on adding more. If someone wants to buy #6, I will take an overpayment, otherwise I am taking whoever is highest on my board. Odds are whoever we pick #6 is potentially as high as #3 on our board...no sense in not taking the player we have graded out as the third best in the draft...or 4th or 5th or 6th.
 

dtown77

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I don't like the talk of trading down. In the top 10, if we like Krebs or we like Zegras, just make the pick. Who gives a **** what the rankings suggest, moving down 3 spots on a hunch someone will be available isn't smart. We have a good number of higher picks with the 3 second rounders, there is no reason to focus on adding more. If someone wants to buy #6, I will take an overpayment, otherwise I am taking whoever is highest on my board. Odds are whoever we pick #6 is potentially as high as #3 on our board...no sense in not taking the player we have graded out as the third best in the draft...or 4th or 5th or 6th.

So you have Hughes and Kakko.. After that you have in no order Podkolzin, Turcotte, Byram, Dach, Cozens, and Krebs.. One of those guys are available at 8.. some people like Zegras or Boldy even. If the right deal is in place and you don't have your eyes set on one guy in particular or the guy you want is gone. It would have zero sense not to at least explore the option. Some people think after the first two picks it's going to be more of a crapshoot of who will really hits. With that said I highly doubt someone would want to trade up a few spots. However you have to do your due diligence.
 
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I mean, what is location, really
It's kind of an interesting question. Do you take a more well-rounded player with better physical tools, or do you take the absolute specialist with amazing offensive ability in that one area and not that much else?

In a way, Rasmussen was that latter type of player, too. He's never going to have great skill in all areas of the game, but he's unparalleled in front of the net.
 

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