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Wow, they are loaded at RW. Jurco, Tatar, Mantha, Pulkinnen, Frk. Lots of potential talent there. Could be a good target even for a prospect swap. Spoons for Pulkinnen?
Wow, they are loaded at RW. Jurco, Tatar, Mantha, Pulkinnen, Frk. Lots of potential talent there. Could be a good target even for a prospect swap. Spoons for Pulkinnen?
detroit would laugh so hard before hanging up1-1 no way of I do Boychuck for jurco. Maybe mantha.
The trade market hasn't been great this offseason. If you can trade him for something that helps the team now, then it makes sense but I'm willing to bet it'll end up being a prospect and pick that are both years away from helping. I haven't seen many realistic trade proposals involving Johnny, teams aren't giving up Coyle or Mantha for a player a year away from UFA.
Again I don't see Chiarelli looking any further into the future than next postseason.
I'd be fine with that trade but would Edmonton? As for the Detroit deal, again why would a team trade a young cost controlled player that is having success and has a boat load of potential for a future UFA? I'd love Coyle, Nyquist, Mantha, Ritchie, Nino, Silfverberg, Etem, or Stone. I just don't see a team trading one for a player who's a UFA in 12 months.
There's plenty of teams that make sense to send Johnny to, but not a lot of good trade chips on the table.
Devante Smith-Pelly is a name I've been throwing around. I think JB could reel him in.
Devante Smith-Pelly is a name I've been throwing around. I think JB could reel him in.
Ducks have plenty of D, though.
Never trade within the division.
yeah because if you do you might end up with 2nd and 9th overall picks
yeah because if you do you might end up with 2nd and 9th overall picks
Yeah this is the problem with Ducks as a trade partner. Lots desirable, but doesn't look like a fit.
DSP is a nice fit, but general consensus is he's got fairly limited upside offensively. That said, a massive dude, that skates pretty well and can pot 10 -15 goals on your 3rd line is nothing to sneeze at. He's certainly a guy I'd like to see the B's target but no idea if we've got assets that the Ducks would covet.
To Detroit:
Johnny Boychuk
Ryan Spooner
Matt Lindblad
To Boston:
Brendan Smith
Tomas Jurco
Teemu Pulkkinen
Lucic - Krejci - Eriksson
Marchand - Bergeron - R. Smith
Jurco - Soderberg - Pulkkinen
Paille - Campbell - Florek
Chara - Hamilton
Seidenberg - B. Smith
Krug - McQuaid
Miller
I may be in the minority, but I think Etem will be a better player than DSP. Would you do it if they offered Silfverberg?
Easier to swallow than some of the other proposals with Detroit, but then again I'm pretty high on Jurco. Smith is a good middle paring guy too.
To Detroit:
Johnny Boychuk
Ryan Spooner
Matt Lindblad
To Boston:
Brendan Smith
Tomas Jurco
Teemu Pulkkinen
Lucic - Krejci - Eriksson
Marchand - Bergeron - R. Smith
Jurco - Soderberg - Pulkkinen
Paille - Campbell - Florek
Chara - Hamilton
Seidenberg - B. Smith
Krug - McQuaid
Miller
I must be the only one who thought B Smith came off as a bit of a soft turd in that series.
Smith has a mean streak, I would do that trade all day to be honest with you. Ride or die guy, I'd want him. Doesn't back down from anybody. Youngin that wants to win and the way it's looking we might not even be able to sign Boychuk long term after this season. Take it and run.
To Detroit:
Johnny Boychuk
Ryan Spooner
Matt Lindblad
To Boston:
Brendan Smith
Tomas Jurco
Teemu Pulkkinen
Lucic - Krejci - Eriksson
Marchand - Bergeron - R. Smith
Jurco - Soderberg - Pulkkinen
Paille - Campbell - Florek
Chara - Hamilton
Seidenberg - B. Smith
Krug - McQuaid
Miller
I do like the general idea of the trade. It would probably have to be tweaked a bit but both teams are getting needs addressed. To me it looks like Detroit is jam packed with Winger talent, and those young guys might be roadblocked the same way Spooner is roadblocked by our glut of centers or the fact we have too many young defensemen and need to pare down the numbers.
A mutually beneficial trade could happen based on surplus.
Amended Trade offer:
Bruins Send:
D Boychuk 3.4m (pro)
C Spooner 815k (7.5 rating by HF)
RW Jared Knight (6.5 rating)
D Adam McQuaid (pro)
Wings Send:
RW Mantha (8.0 rating)
D Brendan Smith 875k (pro)
LW Thomas Tatar (7.5 rating)
Boychuk is a better defenseman than Smith although Johnny is more expensive. Spooner plays a more valued position even though Mantha appears to have a higher ceiling. Jared might revive his career with Detroit and gives them a replacement RW prospect with physicality. Tatar could contribute immediately as a left winger -- this will probably only happen if he proves difficult to resign. McQuaid gives Detroit back a low cost, stay at home defenseman.
Tatar resigning not close:
http://www.freep.com/article/201407.../detroit-red-wings-tomas-tatar-danny-dekeyser
Overpay by one team or fair value proposal?