Player Discussion Derek Ryan

[Blue Line Turnover]

When's the last time we've had a RH C with a strong FO%?
I've always liked his game and I'm hoping that his speed, stickhandling, and defensive game is as good as I've seen from him over the years (he's stood out during World Championships in terms of offensive skills).

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[Bryanbryoil]

Boyd Gordon?

 

[DavidHasselhoffsFist]

Short sample but Hass wasn’t terrible on the dot over 50% last season I believe

 

[CycloneSweep]

It'll be interesting
Last year he was 12 on the Flames regulars for 5v5 ice time per game, 7th the year before so he definitely took a lesser role last year.

In the games I remembered watching he definitely looked good in that 4th line role.

I think his near 40 point seasons are a thing of the past, I think that's when he managed to peak.

I don't think he would be effective as a 3rd liner anymore, at 34 I think he is much better suited as a 4th liner/pk/key face off guy. And there is nothing wrong with that.

My only concern, which isn't for him as a player, is that he gets miscast here as a 3rd liner, doesn't do great and hate on for it. He is a damn good 4th liner right now and that's the role he SHOULD be put in

 

[CycloneSweep]

Short sample but Hass wasn’t terrible on the dot over 50% last season I believe

45.1% for Haas

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Boyd Gordon?

Yeah probably

 

[Broberg Speed]

Short sample but Hass wasn’t terrible on the dot over 50% last season I believe

I don't think so

 

[NoDust33]

Yeah probably

Mark Letestu I think. Coincidentally, also the last time we had an effective third line.

 

[DavidHasselhoffsFist]

45.1% for Haas

Damn

 

[DavidHasselhoffsFist]

I don't think so

I was thinking 19-20
My bad

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Mark Letestu I think. Coincidentally, also the last time we had an effective third line.

Power play specialist Test Tube.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I was thinking 19-20
My bad

Where he was worse at 42.2%...

 

[CycloneSweep]

Mark Letestu I think. Coincidentally, also the last time we had an effective third line.

It was an effective third line when we added Desharnais

 

[iCanada]

Been a long time since we had a no nonsense player with Ryan's talents. He'll be a huge upgrade for us over the Haas', Turris', and Khaira's we've had in his spot before.

 

[DavidHasselhoffsFist]

Where he was worse at 42.2%...

Numbers don’t lie
Don’t know what I’m thinking

 

[ZJuice]

This team needs a Letestu/Stoll type in the bottom six. Our pro scouting seems poopy but don’t ask me who I would bring because I’m a poopy scout too

 

[Blue Line Turnover]

It'll be interesting
Last year he was 12 on the Flames regulars for 5v5 ice time per game, 7th the year before so he definitely took a lesser role last year.

In the games I remembered watching he definitely looked good in that 4th line role.

I think his near 40 point seasons are a thing of the past, I think that's when he managed to peak.

I don't think he would be effective as a 3rd liner anymore, at 34 I think he is much better suited as a 4th liner/pk/key face off guy. And there is nothing wrong with that.

My only concern, which isn't for him as a player, is that he gets miscast here as a 3rd liner, doesn't do great and hate on for it. He is a damn good 4th liner right now and that's the role he SHOULD be put in

In 2019-2020, he was on pace for a 35 point season over 82 games, so it's not like he's completely fallen off of a cliff, offensively speaking.

I think his defensive ability would work with helping break in Holloway (perhaps with Yamamoto on RW).

It'll be nice to see FOs being won off off his backhand to Bouchard or Barrie for high quality chances from the point.

 

[CycloneSweep]

In 2019-2020, he was on pace for a 35 point season over 82 games, so it's not like he's completely fallen off of a cliff, offensively speaking.

I think his defensive ability would work with helping break in Holloway (perhaps with Yamamoto on RW).

It'll be nice to see FOs being won off off his backhand to Bouchard or Barrie for high quality chances from the point.

No his offense has stayed steady 5v5 for his whole career, just his icetime has changed due to the rest of his game.

He will be great to have on the 4th line

 

[yukoner88]

I almost feel like the Oilers s HFBOARDS willed him to come over

 

[CupofOil]

It'll be interesting
Last year he was 12 on the Flames regulars for 5v5 ice time per game, 7th the year before so he definitely took a lesser role last year.

In the games I remembered watching he definitely looked good in that 4th line role.

I think his near 40 point seasons are a thing of the past, I think that's when he managed to peak.

I don't think he would be effective as a 3rd liner anymore, at 34 I think he is much better suited as a 4th liner/pk/key face off guy. And there is nothing wrong with that.

My only concern, which isn't for him as a player, is that he gets miscast here as a 3rd liner, doesn't do great and hate on for it. He is a damn good 4th liner right now and that's the role he SHOULD be put in

The Flames were a mess. A lot of their players struggled offensively most of the season.

It's possible at Ryan's age that he had natural regression but it's also possible that his lower numbers were due to the environment he was in. His underlying numbers were still good so I think there's potential for a bounceback offensively, probably not 40 points but perhaps 10 goals, 30 points.

I just hope he's not another in a long line of has beens like Gordon, Belanger, Brodziak and Turris that never bounced back here and just fell off the face of the earth. I think he's better than those guys at the time of signing especially defensively and doesn't have as much tread on the tires (similar to Hyman compared to the other bad signings of the past) but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Broberg Speed]

I almost feel like the Oilers s HFBOARDS willed him to come over

It's a good fit. Less defensive draws for Draisaitl and a player that can teach Dylan Holloway and Ryan McLeod some integral lessons about playing as a defensive center in the NHL.

I know some people envision Holloway as a top six winger but I'd like to develop this player as a tight checking third line center. An essential role for any top caliber team. If Holloway and McLeod can become our long term bottom six centers we are made in the shade. It works on so many different levels including salary cap management, player development from within, and team speed and size.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

He's an upgrade on Haas (at least offensively and at the faceoff dot, Haas during play was still strong defensively), but I don't think he should be expected handle a bigger role.

Still Haas and Archi did well when used as a shutdown combo, so I think Ryan should fit in well there. I'm curious to see who rounds out that line, as I can see Kassian, Foegele, Benson, and McLeod all being a good fit at LW.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Love him as our 4th line centre. I just really would hate to see Tipp overplay him and he seems like such a prime tipp overplay candidate.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Been a long time since we had a no nonsense player with Ryan's talents. He'll be a huge upgrade for us over the Haas', Turris', and Khaira's we've had in his spot before.

Yep Ryan can actually score some goals and has some hands when given a chance. Add some support offense in bottomsix. Not sure why theres a 2nd thread on Ryan. I'll just add again that I go back all the way to the U of A with this player, saw him lots. At any level of play he's had the ability to occasionally make defenders look stupid. its a shame we never got him right out of U of A. No org excuse for that. he could have made an impact right out of CIS.

 

[bucks_oil]

Short sample but Hass wasn’t terrible on the dot over 50% last season I believe

Haas was 45% on the dot last year. 42% the year before.

Nice enough guy... so happy to see him gone.

Ooops... I see this was already answered. Erasing... no need to pile on.