Player Discussion David Quinn: Part III
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Taking a quick look at some numbers for first 10 games of season.... Was curious of the defensive difference.
2020 - 35GA - 36.2 SA/g - .903sv% | 4-5-1 9pts
2021 - 28GA - 27.7 SA/g - .903sv% | 4-4-2 10pts
2020 - 35GA - 36.2 SA/g - .903sv% | 4-5-1 9pts
2021 - 28GA - 27.7 SA/g - .903sv% | 4-4-2 10pts
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Amazing Kreiderman
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Are you sure that wasn't the result of the 12 second PP the 2nd unit got? That 2nd unit has Lemieux and Howden on it with Kakko
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It was also really hard to tell numbers apart on the telecast. Was using the small tv and the lack of contrast on the numbers really made it difficult to tell who was who.
Poor Sam.
Poor Sam.
HockeyBasedNYC
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Yeah i thought the same thing. Those jerseys. They have the darker grey outlining the numbers and anything stitched but nothing else. They coudlve done such a better job with those
Yet, they continue to sell.
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Ghost of jas
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I've been very impressed with how Quinn is handling the development of the younger players so far.
Hajek and Biterto (scored a goal) got less than 10 minutes, Gauthier got 6:30
Tawnos
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Absolutely. For some, it's taking a little time, for sure. I really think his approach of not worrying about how good a player is right now, but preparing them to be better players down the road is the right one and is clearly working. It's why we have Happy Buch. Quinn sends Chytil to Hartford and says "do these things" and he comes up a better player.
It's interesting the way that he handles forwards a little differently than defensemen. With forwards, it's all about desconstructing the habits they've built up playing in lesser leagues... habits that don't fly in the NHL... and rebuilding them to be effective here. With D, it's all about what made them defensemen in the first place. Taking their instincts and converting them to the scheme he wants them to play.
The time thing is a complete falsehood. Look at how much time they were getting relative to their piers. And as Chytil got better, he got more ice time. And as Kakko showed last night, if he plays the way that he was, he is going to get more time. This is not a miracle. Same happened with Lindgren. Same happened with Fox.
I really would love to know how Kreider and Trouba are teachers pets. What, do you believe, needs to happen with those two? And Strome? Great time for a post like this. But forgetting that, who do you believe right now should be centering Panarin?
I think that he is actually advocating that they needed more. Thought why any coach would have done that, I have no idea.
I think (very dangerous, I know) it is two things. One is that Quinn is very good at communicating exactly what he is looking for. If player does X, Y & Z, he will play and it becomes up to said player to make the most of his minutes. Chytil is an example of that. Kakko last night showed an example of that. DeAngelo (he who must not be named) was an example of that. Buchnevich is an example of that.
And the second is your second point regarding forwards. When we started to read for the last couple of days that Quinn is at fault for not letting them play "their style", nothing could be more ludicrous. As you correctly point out, there are habits that just will not fly in the NHL. We saw that with Kakko last year The way he played in Liga was not going to work. And it did not work. But he put in the time, and his game is that much better for it. And his ice time is better for it.
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Ghost of jas
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The proper term for this is being team leaders and helping to convey the coach's message. Some posters apparently believe such a thing is equivalent to high school.
Ahh....yet again reminding me of why we have you around. Good interpretation. I was clearly not picking up what he was putting down.
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In the Guathier thread he actually said that his career cannot be saved unless the Rangers replace the coaching staff. Clearly this paragon of hockey knowledge sees something most of us don't.
I had the same exact problem. Poorly executed jerseys, I don't remember this problem with the original.
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Toss up between that and how Kakko is clearly stagnatingI furious at how he's starving Miller for ice time.
Tawnos
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To the bolded... most of the time, this is true. I think he might have slipped up on that with Andersson and Kravtsov, but at least in the Kravtsov case it could be rectified.
The thing that's really important about "if player does X,Y,Z he will play" is that Quinn doesn't write off players who don't do those things. He gets with them in practice and on the bench and works with them to improve those areas.
Agreed on both. Kravstov, sort of like Chytil in Hartford, really seems to have heeded what he was being told this year. And showed that it is not too late for players that young.
Andersson simply continued to dig his own hall. I will completely buy that there may well have been slip ups in the communication department with him, but unlike Kravstov who decided to pull his head out of his tukhus, he just continued with more of the same. And judging by the results and ice time he is receiving in LA, the change of scenery has really done little for him.
To your second point, yes he does not write off players. This, I think, is what he refers to as being fine with mistakes being made as long as the intention is good.
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