ConnorMcMullet
#12 Colby Cave
- Jun 10, 2017
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What???No doubt I'd take him if he was availible in the 4th.
Sometimes the attitude stuff works out in the end; Laine threatened to kill his coach at 16-17 and had a huge ego
What???No doubt I'd take him if he was availible in the 4th.
Sometimes the attitude stuff works out in the end; Laine threatened to kill his coach at 16-17 and had a huge ego
This is fake news.No doubt I'd take him if he was availible in the 4th.
Sometimes the attitude stuff works out in the end; Laine threatened to kill his coach at 16-17 and had a huge ego
What???
This is fake news.
Incredibly toxic.
No use turning him to a forward because his Achilles heel is that he's just a bad and disrespectful kid. PERIOD.
People who hope to turn around these character issues are overly optimistic. Under the spotlight since he was 14 years old and he has yet to learn in three years. If it cant be done in his draft year then hes not going to clean up his act now.
On talent he is a top 10 pick but I have a hard time believing a team rolls the dice on him with a 1st round pick. His only chance is if a team with multiple picks in the 1st decides to gamble.
he really is...No, he is not a top10 pick based on talent. Probably a late 1st talent who ends up late 2nd/early 3rd round.
he really is...
dmen dont go over a ppg in their draft year
I am sorry but he'd 100% be getting Top 10 consideration if the character issues were not presentNo, he is not a top10 pick based on talent. Probably a late 1st talent who ends up late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Not going to drag a kid through the mud with specifics but to point it generally he has no respect. Ask his coaches and management off the record what kind of kid he is.What exactly is everyone talking about making this player toxic? What's the issue? I haven't heard anything bad about him (except for people saying HF) and even then no one will actually say what he's allegedly done.
He is atleast a top 15 talent without all the personal issues and his "no desire"attitude to improve his defensive game. I'd say around the 8-13 mark without all that stuff holding him down.No, he is not a top10 pick based on talent. Probably a late 1st talent who ends up late 2nd/early 3rd round.
he really is...
dmen dont go over a ppg in their draft year
I am sorry but he'd 100% be getting Top 10 consideration if the character issues were not present
He is atleast a top 15 talent without all the personal issues and his "no desire"attitude to improve his defensive game. I'd say around the 8-13 mark without all that stuff holding him down.
Performed better than Smith at the u-18's. Smith was hardly noticeable there.The dude don't play or care about defense.
Maybe top15 pick but I don't buy bonafide top10 pick if not for his character issues. There are some really good defensemen in this draft.
he really is...
dmen dont go over a ppg in their draft year
He's been banished to the dressing twice by his team for being disrespectful to the coach. This is under two different coaches in two different years. This year that led to him getting suspended by the team for a game.What exactly is everyone talking about making this player toxic? What's the issue? I haven't heard anything bad about him (except for people saying HF) and even then no one will actually say what he's allegedly done.
Anthony DeAngelo pretty easily outperformed him in nearly every facet of the game in his draft year while playing less games....and from all accounts less attitude issues than this kid (had issues no doubt, but not like this) and he barely cracked the top 20...on skill alone, he was/is behind DeAngelo, and on attitude not helping his cause much. without the attitude I doubt he goes any higher than DeAngelo did because of the non existent defense he plays...he really is...
dmen dont go over a ppg in their draft year
If that's the case of him being "less" of a player and not as skilled ... seeing Deangelo play for 3 different Orgs in 3 seasons and not be able to crack any of the 3's line up consistently......Anthony DeAngelo pretty easily outperformed him in nearly every facet of the game in his draft year while playing less games....and from all accounts less attitude issues than this kid (had issues no doubt, but not like this) and he barely cracked the top 20...on skill alone, he was/is behind DeAngelo, and on attitude not helping his cause much. without the attitude I doubt he goes any higher than DeAngelo did because of the non existent defense he plays...
DeAngelo had very serious anger management issues. There are different types of issues, which one is worse is up for debate. DeAngelo actually tried though. Although, DeAngelo manifested his issues in an absolutely despicable and racist behavior.Anthony DeAngelo pretty easily outperformed him in nearly every facet of the game in his draft year while playing less games....and from all accounts less attitude issues than this kid (had issues no doubt, but not like this) and he barely cracked the top 20...on skill alone, he was/is behind DeAngelo, and on attitude not helping his cause much. without the attitude I doubt he goes any higher than DeAngelo did because of the non existent defense he plays...
He's been banished to the dressing twice by his team for being disrespectful to the coach. This is under two different coaches in two different years. This year that led to him getting suspended by the team for a game.
Everything else is behind the scenes and built to a situation like that.
As for would he go top 10 without the character issues. It depends if you are trying to isolate the off-ice stuff, with the on-ice issues. As, his complete lack of effort defensively and proneness to pinch and be the 4th man back, are all lumped in with it. If he was a perfect kid off the ice, but still did those things, its debatable if he'd be a top 10 pick.
It was also vague with Ho-Sang. People don't go on record when a guy is repped by someone like J.P. Barry. You think Bob is going to be loose on words when an agent who feeds him breaks is repping the kid? Hockey-media is more promotional than actual journalism. Shown, by how no NHL source dug up the Hoffman story or was willing to touch it until a local Ottawa reporter broke it.Just for the record, is this all that we know about Merkley's "character issues" - that he has not gotten along with his coaches?
I am always skeptical about stories like this, because in many instances of job-related behavior "character issues" and "difficult" are used as code words by some people to dismiss individuals who have unique personalities and identities.
Hockey locker rooms have very rigid cultures and hierarchies. We know PK Subban have struggles with these and we know that he is an upstanding person. Although I am not suggesting that Merkley is the same type of guy, maybe skepticism about some of these insinuations is warranted.
DeAngelo has a documented history of using homophobic and racist language. We can certainly call that difficult and that would be more than kind. The Merkley case seems vaguer and therefore maybe some skepticism is required.
It was also vague with Ho-Sang. People don't go on record when a guy is repped by someone like J.P. Barry. You think Bob is going to be loose on words when an agent who feeds him breaks is repping the kid? Hockey-media is more promotional than actual journalism. Shown, by how no NHL source dug up the Hoffman story or was willing to touch it until a local Ottawa reporter broke it.
We hardly heard anything about Kabanov pre-draft. But, it turned out he was just getting blackout drunk his entire time at his billets.
George Burnett has coached both kids, and tried to dismiss the PK Subban/Merkley comparisons pretty heavily.