News Article: 'Culture change' necessary in Senators dressing room

[solidprospect]

Bring back Oduya and Claesson!

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Bring back Oduya and Claesson!

Belleville is full already

 

[Sensung]

Boro can't win around here

Credit where it is due.

Boro has scratched and clawed his way to an NHL career. He made a wise choice to adapt his off ice training and diet to a leaner quicker body. It paid off with improved play.

Hope he keeps it up and that he learns to shut up and let players that matter deal with the press.

 

[slamigo]

Hope he keeps it up and that he learns to shut up and let players that matter deal with the press.

Exactly, let’s hear what the team leaders have to say.................................(insert crickets chirping).

 

[Micklebot]

Credit where it is due.

Boro has scratched and clawed his way to an NHL career. He made a wise choice to adapt his off ice training and diet to a leaner quicker body. It paid off with improved play.

Hope he keeps it up and that he learns to shut up and let players that matter deal with the press.

Why does it matter which players speak to the press? Is a good players insight more valuable than a lesser players?

 

[Sensung]

Why does it matter which players speak to the press? Is a good players insight more valuable than a lesser players?

Interchangeable parts should be thankful they have a job and keep quiet.

How many times in Sens history has a plug been a spokesperson?

How many teams have plugs as their spokesman?

 

[HF Reader]

The fact that Boro has become a team spokesman shows how far we have fallen.

Why? Maybe he's an intelligent, insightful and honest person.

 

[Sensung]

Why? Maybe he's an intelligent, insightful and honest person.

Obviously you've never heard him speak.

 

[otown]

This team needs a leader (or a leadership group) whether EK is here or not.
Who controls the room without a veteran presence? Who is there to mentor the young guys coming up, on and off the ice?
Sign the core group, surround them with young guys (at reasonable cost) who are hungry for NHL jobs and prove everybody wrong!

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Culture change is massively needed in Ottawa at the top. Management and everyone who makes decisions for the team on and off the ice need to be purged and replaced save Trent Mann. Company man Borowiecki can join them at the unemployed line. Guy has taken too many blows to the head, he probably shouldn't be allowed to play anyways. At least him getting fed and losing dumb fights is something to look forward to this year.

 

[JungleBeat]

The character assassination of Karlsson is only going to get worse. This is the starting phase while they plant seeds in the readers head.

 

[Hale The Villain]

This article and Garrioch's talk of Sens management not wanting distractions in training camp is preparation for the inevitably terrible EK return that will be coming in the next couple weeks.

You think this is character assassination? Wait until Karlsson is traded. Can't wait for the excuse propagating propaganda to come out about how EK is locker-room cancer and it's somehow addition by subtraction.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

This article and Garrioch's talk of Sens management not wanting distractions in training camp is preparation for the inevitably terrible EK return that will be coming in the next couple weeks.

You think this is character assassination? Wait until Karlsson is traded. Can't wait for the excuse propagating propaganda to come out about how EK is locker-room cancer and it's somehow addition by subtraction.

Yep, all the while he wins more Norris trophies and a Cup or two with a good team.

 

[Countdown0]

I like Boro. Not necessarily a guy I would want in my top 6 D, but I like him. Problem is, he contributes little. It doesn't matter how hard you're willing to work if your hard work produces mediocre-at-best results. He throws the occasional big hit, but never anything earth shattering the likes of which Volchenkov could do, and I've yet to see him make a hip check like Methot could. As for people comparing him to Neil... just... no. At Boro's age, Neil was already both a better fighter and overall player, and because he wasn't a defenseman, when Neil did go to make an overly risky hit, it was far less likely to turn into a goal in our net. On top of that, even in his last days as an NHL player, Neil was still the better fighter. Boro is tough, and he's willing to fight anyone, but a willingness to get your ass kicked over and over again isn't always useful. Having the one guy on the ice who nobody else could beat is useful. Neil could be that, Boro can't.

As for a culture change? Well, sure, but let's examine something. When was the last time we were CONSISTENTLY good? Probably the lead up to the 2007 finals, right? We haven't been consistently good since then, but before that were we one of the best teams in the league for years. What has changed in that time?

General Manager has changed, twice.

Captain has changed, twice.

ALL of the players on the roster at that time are now gone, so the players have all changed.

Head coach has changed a billion times (before you try to correct me on this, its called hyperbole, look it up).

Fans? No real impact on the locker room culture.

But who IS still left over from that time. One guy:

Melnyk.

He bought a team that was already great, and since then, we've reached the point where people talk about moving our team, players who love the city and are loved by the city have been driven out, sometimes twice over (Alfie). Melnyk bought a great team, and has successfully turned it into the biggest embarrassment in the league. Some of you might say "Buffalo!" "Edmonton!" "Arizona!" "The Islanders!" No. Buffalo has at least got other major pro sports teams to either tide the fans over or share in the anger. Edmonton has a rich history that doesn't date back to a time before colour TV, and have one of the best players in the world signed for a long while. Arizona are in the desert where a majority of people probably don't care, which cushions their embarrassment. And at least the Islanders TRIED to sign their superstar without then trying to assassinate his character - though to be fair, Tavares already did that to himself a bit by going to the evil empire, of all teams.

Melnyk is the common denominator. EVERYONE else has been blamed and scapegoated. Coaches, players, captains, management, hell someone probably tried to blame the zamboni drivers. Melnyk is the ONLY common denominator since this team went from threatening to win the conference every year to struggle to even see first round play offs in consecutive seasons. Culture Change hasn't come from anyone else, and he's the only guy left. He's the only person who hasn't suffered the consequences of failure after failure after failure. That culture will not change while he's around.

 

[Tuna99]

This is the final step in organizational culture collapse. The #7 Dman saying he loves the owner and doesn’t like the Norris trophy defenceman.

 

[Flamingo]

There’s no character assassination in this article. Boro’s quote about there being distractions that are hard to ignore...is he talking about the management shit show? I don’t see him throwing EK under the bus here.

And Pageau’s talking about the EK trade talks casting a shadow over the team. That’s not casting aspersions at EK.

 

[NyQuil]

There’s no character assassination in this article. Boro’s quote about there being distractions that are hard to ignore...is he talking about the management **** show? I don’t see him throwing EK under the bus here.

And Pageau’s talking about the EK trade talks casting a shadow over the team. That’s not casting aspersions at EK.

It's not the quotes of the team but rather the editorial writing in between.

I mean, where does this come from?

In Borowiecki’s ideal world, a few more veteran Senators would also be here working out already, getting a headstart on the official opening of training camp.

Ok, and that is based on?

“It’s up to us as players to take ownership of this,” Borowiecki said. “I’m not passing the puck to anyone here and saying people need to step in and step up. That’s on me. It’s on (Stone, Pageau, Ceci and Matt Duchene). It’s on all of us who want to be a core part of this team. It’s time for us to take this team by the horns here.

So, where is this bit about the veteran Senators who aren't here? Who is Boro mad about? Or is that Ken Warren projecting?

Duchene is the only guy in that list who isn't at the scrimmage. Why is the list in brackets? Is that who Ken is talking about?

Is Erik Karlsson the missing guy?

Weird.

 

[Micklebot]

Interchangeable parts should be thankful they have a job and keep quiet.

How many times in Sens history has a plug been a spokesperson?

How many teams have plugs as their spokesman?

So, basically you responded to my question of "why does a players on ice abilities matter when it comes to addressing the media" with "he's a plug"

Nice job, completely ignored the question and showed you have no legitimate response. A+ for effort. Three sentences with no relevent content.

 

[BonkTastic]

Just maybe that Karlsson is not the "perfect "guy in the dressing room. Maybe he is a great player that's a bit of a di*k. Wouldn't be the first guy like that.

I thought that this was common knowledge already, actually.

He is kind of a d*ck. Most star players are. It's the price you pay for telling teenagers that they are the best in the world at what they do for most of their lives.

This is the reality pro sports in 2018. You need to manage the egos of a room full of primadonnas. That is basically a required job skill for coaches and management at this level.

 

[BonkTastic]

As the most replaceable type of player in the NHL, he should never be a team spokesman.

He's not a "spokesman" because he was appointed as such by the team. He's just one of the most accessible players on the team - always willing to talk to the press. If the media asks for player input on an issue, and someone like Pageau (for instance) offers his time 4/10 times, but Boro offers 10/10 times, then you're going to get more Boro quotes than Pageau quotes. Boro has always been that 10/10 guy for the media.

Any player on the team can be as media-accessible as Borowiecki is if they choose. They choose not to. That is entirely in their right, but it's no surprise that the guy that the press quotes more than most on the team is the guy who makes himself available to the press more than most on the team.

 

[Flamingo]

It's not the quotes of the team but rather the editorial writing in between.

I mean, where does this come from?



Ok, and that is based on?



So, where is this bit about the veteran Senators who aren't here? Who is Boro mad about? Or is that Ken Warren projecting?

Duchene is the only guy in that list who isn't at the scrimmage. Why is the list in brackets? Is that who Ken is talking about?

Is Erik Karlsson the missing guy?

Weird.

That is telling. If Ken’s being soft on his interview subject (Boro) and taking the editorial blame, he’s also leaving it up to us to fill in the blank on who’s to blame. Is Karlsson not engaged with the team? Is management jerking him around? It’s a lot of flak. Who’s it thrown up for?

 

[NyQuil]

That is telling. If Ken’s being soft on his interview subject (Boro) and taking the editorial blame, he’s also leaving it up to us to fill in the blank on who’s to blame. Is Karlsson not engaged with the team? Is management jerking him around? It’s a lot of flak. Who’s it thrown up for?

Mrs_NyQuil thought it was about Bobby Ryan.

 

[Sensung]

He's not a "spokesman" because he was appointed as such by the team. He's just one of the most accessible players on the team - always willing to talk to the press. If the media asks for player input on an issue, and someone like Pageau (for instance) offers his time 4/10 times, but Boro offers 10/10 times, then you're going to get more Boro quotes than Pageau quotes. Boro has always been that 10/10 guy for the media.

Any player on the team can be as media-accessible as Borowiecki is if they choose. They choose not to. That is entirely in their right, but it's no surprise that the guy that the press quotes more than most on the team is the guy who makes himself available to the press more than most on the team.

Most plugs have the common sense not to be media whores.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Mrs_NyQuil thought it was about Bobby Ryan.

Where's Ryan at? Is he off binge eating pastries again? Cosplaying Jabba the Hutt at comicon? Guest starring on a new Guy Fieri series?

 

[NyQuil]

Most plugs have the common sense not to be media ****es.

Boro has been the darling of the Ottawa Sun pretty much from Day One.

I think it's because our shitty local media imagine themselves as Boro.