Speculation: Coyotes 2021 Offseason Roster Discussion Thread #1

[AZviaNJ]

You know what?

Steering us in a new direction I wouldn't mind if we signed Karl Alzner for the league minimum for a year or two. He's 32 (about the same age as Ness who is 31) and has quite a bit to prove. And I have a lot more faith in him than Aaron Ness as our third pair LD.

Then you have:

OEL -- ?? (maybe Demers)
Chychrun -- ?? (hopefully Hakanpaa!!!!)
Alzner / Capo -- Bush / Soderstrom

You've saved just over 10m in cap space because Goose and Hammer are gone, bump that up to ~$15m if we let Raanta walk (don't necessarily think that's a good idea, Adin Hill has consistently failed my eye test but I definitely am in the minority here). Cap space is good and you can maybe use that for more draft picks depending on the team's performance. And you don't have to rush the young guys.

Regardless, Army's first real chance to put an impact on this team is in how he addresses our UFA defensemen. Let's see how he does good luck BA!

Alzner would be an interesting acquisition. Brings a vet presence with significant playoff experience.

With 15 UFA/RFA’s and $30m in cap space BA has a chance to really put his stamp on next years roster.

 

[moosemeister]

I’d give Gabriel what we paid Brassard last year no doubt. Dude has heart, chip on his shoulder and could easily be a fan favorite by the end of preseason.

I remember rooting hard for Ryan White and loved him as a Coyote. I think we’d feel the same about Gabriel

 

[Grimes]

Sounds like Jaskin's deal is wrapped up. Probably waiting until expansion to make it official.
KHL MVP Dmitrij Jaskin returning to NHL, reportedly signing two-year-deal with Arizona Coyotes

 

[moosemeister]

Two year deal? f*** me haha

 

[TheLegend]

Sounds like Jaskin's deal is wrapped up. Probably waiting until expansion to make it official.
KHL MVP Dmitrij Jaskin returning to NHL, reportedly signing two-year-deal with Arizona Coyotes

Agent is saying no… but Craig seems to think we’re a top option.

 

[XX]

With 15 UFA/RFA’s and $30m in cap space BA has a chance to really put his stamp on next years roster.

Cap space is largely irrelevant as the Coyotes are a cash budget team. One that added $15m in upward adjustments to existing contracts without making a single trade or signing. Garland is due around 5, at least. So that's $20m more for the same team.

Keller +1.5
Schmaltz +3
Dvorak +1.625
Pitlick + 0.9
Crouse +0.9
Larsson +0.8

OEL + 2.5
Chychrun +2
Kuemper +2

If Craig's budget number is accurate, and Garland gets around $5m, that would leave ~9m to sign 4D.

 

[Jakey53]

Alzner would be an interesting acquisition. Brings a vet presence with significant playoff experience.

With 15 UFA/RFA’s and $30m in cap space BA has a chance to really put his stamp on next years roster.

Alzner can't skate. Is he even playing hockey?

 

[Sm00chy]

I don't think anyone is overpaying for anything. Its got to be as simple as:

Kirk has contract offers from European leagues, likely the Liiga, Maybe the NLA.
Kirk wants to play in North America. He does not have the history or clout to get a North American out-clause in contract negotiations with European leagues.
GMBA is not willing to give him a contract at this point - probably never paid any attention to him outside the World Championships. Nobody in this organization has any history with Kirk. The whole staff has turned over in the last year and a half.
Kirk needs to commit to European offer before time Coyotes Vet camp starts - no chance to earn a North American contract before Liiga starts.
Coyotes doing Kirk a solid by allowing him to see if any other teams will sign him to a contract now.

We won't be getting much more than another unsigned draft pick in a Kirk trade.

I don’t necessarily think someone will… but the hope remains that there is a GM out there that may be willing.

Zero harm in trying if you have no intention of signing him

 

[Heldig]

Yea not worried.

Would I like to see what he can do in the AHL? Sure...but I wont lose any sleep if he is moved.

I suspect this is a message to Kirk to go and see what offers you can get. It is a way to gauge value on a contract. Coyotes offered X, Kirk feels he is worth Y. Go ahead and see what other teams offer and come back to us.

 

[hbk]

I just wish we would be the team behind the 7th rounder success story for once if Kirk ends up turning into anything, which I honestly think he has a solid chance to.

Let me introduce you to Ben McCartney from Brandon.

 

[Grimes]

Let me introduce you to Ben McCartney from Brandon.

Go on. Heard he had a good season.

 

[Kaizen]

Let me introduce you to Ben McCartney from Brandon.

And I would suggest Winnick would qualify as well.

 

[hbk]

Go on. Heard he had a good season.

He can play. I noticed right away in the Regina bubble. Kid will make nhl likely in bottom 6 any situation capacity. I haven’t been this excited about a late round pick since Winnik.

 

[RemoAZ]

He can play. I noticed right away in the Regina bubble. Kid will make nhl likely in bottom 6 any situation capacity. I haven’t been this excited about a late round pick since Winnik.

Loved Winnik. Would have liked to see him sign a long term contract but he didn't seem to want to do that anywhere.

 

[Mosby]

I like Kirk and I’d sign him but I understand the thinking. He was good but not great in Peterborough. He needs to play in a serious league next and stop f***ing around in England. The top Finnish league is an option so that’s a good start.

 

[Sinurgy]

OMG that is so not true. I recently semi-abused save states (saved before every fight) and re-beat most of Mike Tyson's punch out on my Wii U, everyone except for the last boss Mr. Dream who was Mike Tyson's replacement after the licensing agreement ran out. Seems like there's a split second lag so I'm not going to spend the time to beat Mr. Dream the same way I somehow beat Tyson as a kid.

But, I did beat Super Mario 3 on this Wii U with the same way of using save states (never beat the game as a kid) so maybe it's a reflex thing instead of lag. Although I will still blame the half second lag I read about on reddit (which actually think may be accurate but who actually knows).

But yeah, Glass Joe? Come on. Use a better example. Maybe Soda Popinski, or even the 2nd version of Piston Honda. Actually Soda Popinski's probably a good example, I had a ton of trouble with Soda Popinski this time but never had any trouble as a kid.

But Glass Joe? Come on @Sinurgy. If that's true you need to get better at old *ss NES games

I think you've misunderstood the analogy, it's quite on point in my opinion. As for gaming I think my mastery of the Soulsbourne series alone gives me plenty of git gud cred!

 

[Gwyddbwyll]

I suspect this is a message to Kirk to go and see what offers you can get. It is a way to gauge value on a contract. Coyotes offered X, Kirk feels he is worth Y. Go ahead and see what other teams offer and come back to us.

I dont think they are even offering anything. Kirk would take anything to get a chance, he is not holding out. There's just a lot working against him. Top European teams have said they wont offer an import slot to a British player no matter how good he is despite his WC showing. Because they're afraid of being mocked for doing so. British players are looked down upon as second class players. Mark Bell is more worried about looking silly than taking a risk.

It's not personal, I think Armstrong is pretty conservative when it comes to orthodox hockey traits and Kirk is as unorthodox as they come. He's also one of the most improved prospects in the past 2 years. But the Coyotes aren't too bothered about ignoring marginal talent - Hoefenmayer, Busby, Nussbaumer are other recent examples, so it's not personal to Kirk. I worry that Daryin may also be ignored.

When they like a guy, they'll move heaven and earth to help them progress - see Crotty the Boston Uni kid who ticks all the right boxes. Cam Dineen with his hockey bloodlines is another.

 

[che]

I think you've misunderstood the analogy, it's quite on point in my opinion. As for gaming I think my mastery of the Soulsbourne series alone gives me plenty of git gud cred!

Aaah the soulsborne.. Love those games. Also set me back a few hundred on new controllers alone.

 

[Sm00chy]

 

[Sm00chy]

If you listen to this interview with Craig Morgan it definitely sounds like Kirk will be getting a contract.

 

[Mangosteen]

He needs to be our captain, just to hear Nash really bad Captain Kirk jokes

 

[moosemeister]

I’m glad they’re giving him a shot. The worst thing that happens is we don’t give him the next contract. Worth the risk.

 

[Mangosteen]

How many contracts can the Yotes have?

 

[Mosby]

50 contracts

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

CONTRACTS: 46/50
According to Cap Friendly, so we have 4 extra spots