OT: Covid-19 (Part 47) Who Can It Be Now?

[Lshap]

For the unvaccinated, everyone's out to get them...

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[dcyhabs]

They are actually right, just suspicious of the wrong people. Everyone is out for the fringe of first worlders willing to believe anything and click on ads. Canada isn't quite there yet but a lot of the US economy is based on letting rich people scam the poor, from payday loans to Walmart. The problem is that gullible people don't realize that they are gullible.

The people stealing from them are so nice, not like their imaginary opponents.

 

[Crusher117]

Go get vaccinated so we move on!


Also are 90% of cases and hospitalization really concentrated between MTL and Laval?

 

[Guiness time]

Day 4 at school and my kid got sent home due to 2 cases in her classroom. You would think/hope the impact on kids would motivate some to get the vaccine.

 

[MXD]

I hope that we collectively refrain from comparing a transmissible virus to homosexuality and alcoholism this time around.
We're way, way too intelligent for that.

 

[ghost85875]

They are actually right, just suspicious of the wrong people. Everyone is out for the fringe of first worlders willing to believe anything and click on ads. Canada isn't quite there yet but a lot of the US economy is based on letting rich people scam the poor, from payday loans to Walmart. The problem is that gullible people don't realize that they are gullible.

The people stealing from them are so nice, not like their imaginary opponents.

What about gov sleeping with the big corporations? Is that too much a stretch?

 

[llamateizer]

Go get vaccinated so we move on!


Also are 90% of cases and hospitalization really concentrated between MTL and Laval?

Must include north and south shore. Hopefully, we can go through winter without too much repercussions.

Day 4 at school and my kid got sent home due to 2 cases in her classroom. You would think/hope the impact on kids would motivate some to get the vaccine.

This sucks, at this point. majority of unvaccinated cannot be convinced.
They can be indirectly forced (losing access to their Gym/Restaurants/Jobs)

 

[dcyhabs]

What about gov sleeping with the big corporations? Is that too much a stretch?

Never is, but government, at least outside the US, still has to be somewhat accountable. Trolls on Facebook just want to see the world burn, often for Putin.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

It's very unlikely to happen we don't have the doses to give a 3rd shot in the near future, that said, there is no timetable for this to end and vaccination will still be a thing once we are "back to normal" no matter how one want to define "back to normal".
So you will get more than 2 shot as we move forward in time, that much was always true.

Very unlikely ?

Achat de vaccins contre la COVID-19 - Canada.ca

Canada secured 409M doses for the next years, if we exclude J&J vaccine, they are all double doses... For the moment, Canada theoretically had/have access to 142M double doses, that's enough to theoretically give 7 doses.

 

[Treb]

Very unlikely ?

Achat de vaccins contre la COVID-19 - Canada.ca

Canada secured 409M doses for the next years, if we exclude J&J vaccine, they are all double doses... For the moment, Canada theoretically had/have access to 142M double doses, that's enough to theoretically give 7 doses.

You do know that 224M of those doses are for vaccines that are not accepted anywhere yet and we would still be at 0% vaccination if we banked only on them?

 

[Mario le Magnifique]

Just heard Dubé on 98.5 talking about how the 'system' has less hospital beds now compared to prior Covid. Annnnd at the same time announcing that non vaccinated personnel will be put on unpaid leave. Not looking too good for this winter, just sayin'. We're paying for decades of healthcare systemic problems and yet, no fix to the system itself. Only bandaids. Sick and tired of this shit. A big overhhaul is needed, and elections are coming fast, perhaps the next election is on which party is gonna act and how on this healthcare system.

 

[OnTheRun]

Very unlikely ?

Achat de vaccins contre la COVID-19 - Canada.ca

Canada secured 409M doses for the next years, if we exclude J&J vaccine, they are all double doses... For the moment, Canada theoretically had/have access to 142M double doses, that's enough to theoretically give 7 doses.

Yes, very unlikely in the near future.
Yes, you will get a 3rd shot (or the one shot of the version 2.0 of the vaccine if applicable.) at some point.

For now we have doses committed to COVAX and children will probably be cleared for vaccination in late-2021/early-2022 and that's what we will do short-term. Spring is probably when a 2nd mass vaccination campaign could start to take shape, assuming we don't get rekt by something more annoying than Delta between now and then.

 

[dcyhabs]

Just heard Dubé on 98.5 talking about how the 'system' has less hospital beds now compared to prior Covid. Annnnd at the same time announcing that non vaccinated personnel will be put on unpaid leave. Not looking too good for this winter, just sayin'. We're paying for decades of healthcare systemic problems and yet, no fix to the system itself. Only bandaids. Sick and tired of this shit. A big overhhaul is needed, and elections are coming fast, perhaps the next election is on which party is gonna act and how on this healthcare system.

Younger people stay on ventilators for weeks unlike old people who die quickly. Less deaths but fuller hospitals.

 

[OnTheRun]

Just heard Dubé on 98.5 talking about how the 'system' has less hospital beds now compared to prior Covid. Annnnd at the same time announcing that non vaccinated personnel will be put on unpaid leave. Not looking too good for this winter, just sayin'. We're paying for decades of healthcare systemic problems and yet, no fix to the system itself. Only bandaids. Sick and tired of this shit. A big overhhaul is needed, and elections are coming fast, perhaps the next election is on which party is gonna act and how on this healthcare system.

While everyone would agree that the healthcare system could uses some improvements, there is not a single healthcare system on earth able to handle an unchecked spread of covid.

So yes, the system should be improved (regardless of covid, a good HCS is just that important). But no, it's not an alternative to anything else.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Yes, very unlikely in the near future.
Yes, you will get a 3rd shot (or the one shot of the version 2.0 of the vaccine if applicable.) at some point.

For now we have doses committed to COVAX and children will probably be cleared for vaccination in late-2021/early-2022 and that's what we will do short-term. Spring is probably when a 2nd mass vaccination campaign could start to take shape, assuming we don't get rekt by something more annoying than Delta between now and then.

They are talking about the 3rd dose everywhere on international media, it's coming soon, my guess is around winter. We are already doing way worse in terms of deaths and COVID cases, compared to 2020 around the same period... We are heading toward another lockdown and people on HFHabs will act as if we were never told that taking the vaccine would prevent another lockdown.

 

[OnTheRun]

They are talking about the 3rd dose everywhere on international media, it's coming soon, my guess is around winter. We are already doing way worse in terms of deaths and COVID cases, compared to 2020 around the same period... We are heading toward another lockdown and people on HFHabs will act as if we were never told that taking the vaccine would prevent another lockdown.

Canada had a late start in vaccination compared to pretty much any country you are referring to using the international media proxy. You need to account our delayed start.

In September 2020 we were dealing with Alpha, not something as contagious as chickenpox like we are now. In fact simple math pretty tell you that without the vaccine we would be in lockdown right now and we are not in lockdown. So that's pretty good.

Current Rt is 1.06 we are not on a runaway train heading toward a lockdown. Maybe in two weeks things will be significantly different... or maybe not. I guess we will just worry about lockdown when it's time to worry about lockdown (It's not in the mix for now).

 

[Deebs]

I'm getting my 3rd dose on Friday. I'm a happy, happy, happy guy

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

You do know that 224M of those doses are for vaccines that are not accepted anywhere yet and we would still be at 0% vaccination if we banked only on them?

Does that change anything to what I said ? "Canada secured 409M doses for the next years, if we exclude J&J vaccine, they are all double doses... For the moment, Canada theoretically had/have access to 142M double doses, that's enough to theoretically give 7 doses."

 

[Milhouse40]

They are talking about the 3rd dose everywhere on international media, it's coming soon, my guess is around winter. We are already doing way worse in terms of deaths and COVID cases, compared to 2020 around the same period... We are heading toward another lockdown and people on HFHabs will act as if we were never told that taking the vaccine would prevent another lockdown.

Paranoid a little bit here.....and a little bit overreacting.

Canada is buying all those vaccine dose mainly for geopolitic reason and that we need to help vaccinate the whole freaking world like every big country are doing........ so 142 millions doses is a drop in a ocean of 8 billions people considering that yes, some of those are for us and considering many orders can be cancelled any time.

You know, you're very lucky to be Canadian and have access to the best vaccine out there before a lot of people.....only 40.6% of the planet have had been able to get their 1st dose.

We are not heading to another lockdown, at least not now.
Cases are dropping in France, without lockdown, without 3rd doses.
Cases are dropping in Italy, without lockdown, without 3rd doses
Cases are dropping in Spain without lockdown, without 3rd doses

Our hospitals are not full, it's still manageable for a while if we don't go ape shit. Even in Alberta where they have the double hospitalization than in Quebec (for more than half the population) they still don't talk about lockdown.

And that's with a virus that is 3 times more contagious AND more dangerous than the one we had
in 2021 at the same period......

We'll start vaccinate the 6-12 at around Novembre and that will help greatly and then we'll see where we stand.
But if you are vaccinated, you are pretty free to do whatever you want excess for wearing a little mask sometimes.

I do see a 3rd doses at some point or maybe an updated version vaccine against the variants but I don't see no lockdown but this is your new normal for a while.....we'll reassest when every age group are vaccinated.

 

[Kriss E]

They are talking about the 3rd dose everywhere on international media, it's coming soon, my guess is around winter. We are already doing way worse in terms of deaths and COVID cases, compared to 2020 around the same period... We are heading toward another lockdown and people on HFHabs will act as if we were never told that taking the vaccine would prevent another lockdown.

No lockdown for vaccinated folks. The folks who refuse to understand the need for medicine will be stuck at home, or you know, just take the damn vaccine.

 

[MasterD]

Just heard Dubé on 98.5 talking about how the 'system' has less hospital beds now compared to prior Covid. Annnnd at the same time announcing that non vaccinated personnel will be put on unpaid leave. Not looking too good for this winter, just sayin'. We're paying for decades of healthcare systemic problems and yet, no fix to the system itself. Only bandaids. Sick and tired of this shit. A big overhhaul is needed, and elections are coming fast, perhaps the next election is on which party is gonna act and how on this healthcare system.

You going to believe the PQ or PLQ when they say they'll fix it? They had 50 years, and they trashed it more and more.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

For the unvaccinated, everyone's out to get them...

I guess it's just Business as Usual here.

 

[Carey Chant]

I'm getting my 3rd dose on Friday. I'm a happy, happy, happy guy

So how happy will you be on the 7th booster shot? 7x happy like Pfizer counting their billions in profit?

I just visited a friend who suffered a stroke right after the 2nd jab and they totally regret taking the injection. Hope everything goes well for you since you cant sue anyone if something goes wrong.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

They are talking about the 3rd dose everywhere on international media, it's coming soon, my guess is around winter. We are already doing way worse in terms of deaths and COVID cases, compared to 2020 around the same period... We are heading toward another lockdown and people on HFHabs will act as if we were never told that taking the vaccine would prevent another lockdown.

There was always talk that we'd need booster shots along the way. This is nothing new.

As for us going into another lockdown, I doubt it but if it happens so be it. And you can be certain that we'd be in lockdown right now without the vaccine.

Have a look at places with low vax rates. The alternative is far worse than what we have here.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

So how happy will you be on the 7th booster shot? 7x happy like Pfizer counting their billions in profit?

I just visited a friend who suffered a stroke right after the 2nd jab and they totally regret taking the injection. Hope everything goes well for you since you cant sue anyone if something goes wrong.

bro the vaccine is free?

also strokes happen, how can you be certain it was caused by the vaccine? 100s of millions of doses have been administered safely at this point