OT: Covid-19 (Part 45) I'm not a music man. (MOD Warning post #188/236)

[Treb]

So have a furry scientist advice instead.

Click to read more...

 

[Milhouse40]

And now L.A. will soon follow New York vaccine passport
L.A. mulls requiring vaccine proof in indoor public places - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

 

[LaP]

And now L.A. will soon follow New York vaccine passport
L.A. mulls requiring vaccine proof in indoor public places - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

I guess if you have nothing to hide you should obey right?

 

[ArtPeur]

So far this thread has no one arguing, it feels good

 

[Milhouse40]

Many people think that scientist, big pharma, politicans are being paid to push the vaccine......
If you are one of them......know that some are actually being paid to make you think vaccine are not safe

The YouTubers who blew the whistle on an anti-vax plot - BBC News

 

[waffledave]

Many people think that scientist, big pharma, politicans are being paid to push the vaccine......
If you are one of them......know that some are actually being paid to make you think vaccine are not safe

The YouTubers who blew the whistle on an anti-vax plot - BBC News

It's a known fact that both Russia and China have been running and funding disinformation campaigns against the COVID vaccine. It's disheartening to see so many people fall for the trap so easily.

 

[Edgy]

It's a known fact that both Russia and China have been running and funding disinformation campaigns against the COVID vaccine. It's disheartening to see so many people fall for the trap so easily.

Any evidence to support that claim?

 

[Treb]

Any evidence to support that claim?

Meet the Russian 'Information Warrior' Seeking To Discredit COVID-19 Vaccines
Russian disinformation campaign working to undermine confidence in Covid-19 vaccines used in US - CNNPolitics
Russian disinformation campaigns are trying to sow distrust of COVID vaccines, study finds
WSJ News Exclusive | Russian Disinformation Campaign Aims to Undermine Confidence in Pfizer, Other Covid-19 Vaccines, U.S. Officials Say
In race for coronavirus vaccine, Russia turns to disinformation
EU report takes aim at Russia over vaccine fake news
US accuses Russia of Covid-19 vaccine disinformation campaign

Russia, China campaigns seek to sow mistrust in Western COVID-19 vaccines: EU report - National | Globalnews.ca
Russia, China sow disinformation to undermine trust in Western vaccines: EU

COVID-19 conspiracy shows vast reach of Chinese disinformation
Covid-19: The disinformation tactics used by China
Chinese Spam Network Aims to Discredit U.S. COVID Vaccine and Response, Report Finds
China’s Dangerous Game Around Covid-19 Vaccines
EU accuses Russia, China of COVID vaccine disinformation | DW | 28.04.2021

 

[Treb]

Or also, just look at the official Sputnik V vaccine twitter.
https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

It's a known fact that both Russia and China have been running and funding disinformation campaigns against the COVID vaccine. It's disheartening to see so many people fall for the trap so easily.

The Maclean's article did a nice job of separating out the groups.

The 'assholes'
The misinformed
The fearful

You aren't going to reach these groups with carrots or education. You also can't force people to take the shot. So... the only thing you can do is to protect people as much as you can from them.

Taking away airports/shows etc... is a good place to start. It's pretty much the best you can do, plus a whole lot more people will suddenly be willing to get a shot.

 

[waffledave]

Or also, just look at the official Sputnik V vaccine twitter.
https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine

That shit is wild.

 

[Andy]

The Maclean's article did a nice job of separating out the groups.

The 'assholes'
The misinformed
The fearful

You aren't going to reach these groups with carrots or education. You also can't force people to take the shot. So... the only thing you can do is to protect people as much as you can from them.

Taking away airports/shows etc... is a good place to start. It's pretty much the best you can do, plus a whole lot more people will suddenly be willing to get a shot.

I have an anti vaxxer friend who got the vaccine simply because he wanted to travel without headaches

 

[Treb]

That shit is wild.

They don't even try to hide it. It's verified by Twitter and all.

 

[Edgy]

Meet the Russian 'Information Warrior' Seeking To Discredit COVID-19 Vaccines
Russian disinformation campaign working to undermine confidence in Covid-19 vaccines used in US - CNNPolitics
Russian disinformation campaigns are trying to sow distrust of COVID vaccines, study finds
WSJ News Exclusive | Russian Disinformation Campaign Aims to Undermine Confidence in Pfizer, Other Covid-19 Vaccines, U.S. Officials Say
In race for coronavirus vaccine, Russia turns to disinformation
EU report takes aim at Russia over vaccine fake news
US accuses Russia of Covid-19 vaccine disinformation campaign

Russia, China campaigns seek to sow mistrust in Western COVID-19 vaccines: EU report - National | Globalnews.ca
Russia, China sow disinformation to undermine trust in Western vaccines: EU

COVID-19 conspiracy shows vast reach of Chinese disinformation
Covid-19: The disinformation tactics used by China
Chinese Spam Network Aims to Discredit U.S. COVID Vaccine and Response, Report Finds
China’s Dangerous Game Around Covid-19 Vaccines
EU accuses Russia, China of COVID vaccine disinformation | DW | 28.04.2021

Thanks. Went through the first few links and not one has offered any actual evidence to support the claim that the campaigns promoting Sputnik-V are actually state funded. The US always has someone to blame their malaise on, China is the new target for obvious economic and geopolitical reasons and Russia is the tried, tested and true "commie bastards".

Blaming Russia and China for people not wanting the vaccine is like giving credit to Jennifer Aniston for people getting it. Neither one influences anyone.

 

[Treb]

Thanks. Went through the first few links and not one has offered any actual evidence to support the claim that the campaigns promoting Sputnik-V are actually state funded. The US always has someone to blame their malaise on, China is the new target for obvious economic and geopolitical reasons and Russia is the tried, tested and true "commie bastards".

Blaming Russia and China for people not wanting the vaccine is like giving credit to Jennifer Aniston for people getting it. Neither one influences anyone.

That's all I can muster in response to that.

 

[waffledave]

Thanks. Went through the first few links and not one has offered any actual evidence to support the claim that the campaigns promoting Sputnik-V are actually state funded. The US always has someone to blame their malaise on, China is the new target for obvious economic and geopolitical reasons and Russia is the tried, tested and true "commie bastards".

Blaming Russia and China for people not wanting the vaccine is like giving credit to Jennifer Aniston for people getting it. Neither one influences anyone.

Lmao bro come on now. We are on the middle of a major cyber cold war. Where have you been?

 

[Milhouse40]

Any evidence to support that claim?

Not going to say it's proofs of everything....but many people are working to make you think the vaccine is shit and all the measures are not working (better revolt against autority then......which is the goal of all this)

Then tell the people to make "their own research" and don't trust the MSM.....they'll eventually pick this one up thinking it's true while it's all bullshit.

 

[Milhouse40]

Lmao bro come on now. We are on the middle of a major cyber cold war. Where have you been?

And they are winning big time......that's the worst part.

 

[Crusher117]

Not going to say it's proofs of everything....but many people are working to make you think the vaccine is shit and all the measures are not working (better revolt against autority then......which is the goal of all this)

Then tell the people to make "their own research" and don't trust the MSM.....they'll eventually pick this one up thinking it's true while it's all bullshit.

Social media is legit cancer. Most people I know are almost completely off it. Most of us just use Instagram at this point. FB & Twitter is just toxic.

 

[Fixxer]

Social media is legit cancer. Most people I know are almost completely off it. Most of us just use Instagram at this point. FB & Twitter is just toxic.

Instantcrap is the same as Fakebook and Twitter. It's difficult to find a place to connect these days.

 

[Milhouse40]

Social media is legit cancer. Most people I know are almost completely off it. Most of us just use Instagram at this point. FB & Twitter is just toxic.

Agree...I'm only on twitter which is 90% because of sports and f***ed up video like this

But I've left all the others.....

 

[Treb]

Agree...I'm only on twitter which is 90% because of sports and f***ed up video like this

But I've left all the others.....

My twitter is a weird mix of hockey, a bit of politics, science news and youtubers/streamers.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Instantcrap is the same as Fakebook and Twitter. It's difficult to find a place to connect these days.

Depends what you use it for, my main account is a page dedicated to my car (other passion other than hockey) and I just follow hockey/ufc/car/meme stuff. Non-political memes, lol.

Instagram is a great platform if you don’t fall into the trap of following toxic people/ideas. The problem with FB is that I have some good friends, that are by all means great people, but they have some WACKED out views. It’s unfortunate. Lol.

 

[Fixxer]

Not going to say it's proofs of everything....but many people are working to make you think the vaccine is shit and all the measures are not working (better revolt against autority then......which is the goal of all this)

Then tell the people to make "their own research" and don't trust the MSM.....they'll eventually pick this one up thinking it's true while it's all bullshit.

Kinda like saying that despite all the acrobaties that we were put into since day 1, that you can catch it anyway and that we'll have to trust our immune system over all that is going on from the 2 polarizing sources of information. Being a free thinker is not a bad thing actually.

 

[Fixxer]

Depends what you use it for, my main account is a page dedicated to my car (other passion other than hockey) and I just follow hockey/ufc/car/meme stuff. Non-political memes, lol.

Instagram is a great platform if you don’t fall into the trap of following toxic people/ideas. The problem with FB is that I have some good friends, that are by all means great people, but they have some WACKED out views. It’s unfortunate. Lol.

Judging people over their beliefs and views had had a resurgence in recents months, but I guess we just need to stick to our own side and keep the distance. No matter what, the virus still goes through "mouth/nose/eyes fluids", so our body still has to put up with this virus, no matter the additions we make to our bodies.