Friedman: Could the Leafs target Seth Jones?

[KingJoffrey]

Jones is 7 mil D making 9.5
Marner is 8 mil F making 10.9 and looking for raise. Jones have his flaws, but in right spot he's effective.

 

[Scintillating10]

Yeah, that adds a bit more credibility, but Kyper .

Leafs have a lot of contracts coming off books. Brodie, Bertuzzi, Domi? Need to fix their Blueline.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Jones is 7 mil D making 9.5
Marner is 8 mil F making 10.9 and looking for raise. Jones have his flaws, but in right spot he's effective.

That right spot is not on the Leafs.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Leafs have a lot of contracts coming off books. Brodie, Bertuzzi, Domi? Need to fix their Blueline.

Absolutely, they are good players mentioned. I don't think Kyper has credibility. Friedman lends some, but at this point we don't even know whether the Leafs will clear house or not, or to what degree.

 

[OKR]

Tbf Jones is the type of player they could use, but not with the contract he has. Even with retention.

 

[HFpapi]

This would be the Phaneuf 7x7 all over again in terms of being a colossal mistake.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

He's a really good defenseman. He's slightly overpaid and Hawk fans give him a ton of crap because we gave up too much for him. But he's a really good two way defender that if paired with a good to elite puck mover that can play lots of minutes would shine.

 

[sxvnert]

No thanks to Seth jones

 

[joepeps]

He makes too much for too many years. That is the problem.

Marner in reg season his contract is ok maybe 1 mil over paid. But in playoffs hes way overpaid (but do the Hawks care???? as they are rebuilding and need to market players)
Also, its only for 1 year and basically no real money Chicago would have to pay, only cap space.

They would have to eat 2.5 mil at least on Jones to drop him to 7 mil and he would still have 6 years which is scary.


not sure this would work unless they eat more money and drop it to around 5 mil for the 6 years.

 

[BlueOil]

He makes too much for too many years. That is the problem.

this is true of any player with talent though, the problem is the leafs' situation, so few contracts fit

they need to upgrade their defense, reilly doesn't cut it as a top guy

 

[joepeps]

this is true of any player with talent though, the problem is the leafs' situation, so few contracts fit

they need to upgrade their defense, reilly doesn't cut it as a top guy

Very true but you can't trade a 100 point player with 11 mil cap hit for 1 year for a declining D for 6 years at 9.5

That would backfire if he doesn't regain form, worse than just getting rid of Marner for free.

 

[57special]

WTH would they want Seth Jones? Thats piling stupid onto stupid.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Jones is better, right handed and only costs $0.25m more on the cap. Nurse and Rielly probably wouldn't be paired together in Toronto as they both play the left side. Rielly and Jones would likely play together as the best top D pair that the Leafs have had in years.

Do ya'll remember when Jones and Rielly played together on team North America (young guys)

They actually look great as a pairing

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

No, I meant the comment on hockey media being ‘out’. Just a bad joke I guess.

Toronto loses in playoffs. Toronto media runs all sorts of wild speculation on trade targets because the headlines are fish in a barrel.

There is no easier job than a Toronto hockey writer after the team loses in the first round. Pick a good to great player on another team and say Toronto should target them. Profit. No ???? between.

I'd pay up to get Marner @ 50% retained

RNH - McDavid - Hyman
Kane - Drai - Marner

filthy

So what are you paying up? You're not keeping all of those Cs and LWs if you're acquiring Marner.

 

[PB37]

Marner for Jones would be good for both teams. Marner can really help Chicago's franchise player push the needle offensively which helps protect their best asset and Jones gives a boost to the Toronto PP and has the two qualities that teams covet: big RHD. Toronto could be a place where he gets a career revival after going to the graveyard that has been Chicago for the past few seasons.

After that, if Toronto can find an actual #1 goaltender and not a rotating door of backups, they'll be on to something.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Those tweets don't mention Marner.

It could and likely is a separate trade if it does happen.

 

[TLEH]

Those tweets don't mention Marner.

It could and likely is a separate trade if it does happen.

Friedman himself mentioned Marner for Jones on the podcast. Spitballing or something he's heard? We don't know, but what he actually said did mentioned Marner and Jones.

 

[WarriorofTime]

It would be a mistake for Toronto but he'd look really good next to Reilly. They compliment each other really well.

"Great breakup, Rielly!"

"Thanks Seth, I couldn't have done it without your excellent job shutting down the passing lane"

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

"Great breakup, Rielly!"

"Thanks Seth, I couldn't have done it without your excellent job shutting down the passing lane"

Seth is a very toolsy defenseman that works really good with a puck moving defenseman.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Friedman himself mentioned Marner for Jones on the podcast. Spitballing or something he's heard? We don't know, but what he actually said did mentioned Marner and Jones.

Ah... well then.

Doesn't Jones also have no trade protection? Is he really going to want to come here? I have my doubts, even though he did live here and is familiar with TO from when his dad was on the Raps.

Also, the on-ice fit I'm even less sure of, and that contract could choke a horse.

 

[TLEH]

Ah... well then.

Doesn't Jones also have no trade protection? Is he really going to want to come here? I have my doubts, even though he did live here and is familiar with TO from when his dad was on the Raps.

Also, the on-ice fit I'm even less sure of, and that contract could choke a horse.

Yeah obviously both guys have NMC so its unlikely.

 

[Rare Jewel]

He's a really good defenseman. He's slightly overpaid and Hawk fans give him a ton of crap because we gave up too much for him. But he's a really good two way defender that if paired with a good to elite puck mover that can play lots of minutes would shine.

For 9.5 for the next 7 years, there really shouldn't be any "ifs" and "buts."

The goal should be to fix the cap and contract issue, not add potentially another Phanuef-like contract.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

For 9.5 for the next 7 years, there really shouldn't be any "ifs" and "buts."

The goal should be to fix the cap and contract issue, not add potentially another Phanuef-like contract.

Must have missed my post where I said the Leafs trading for Jones would be a bad idea.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Must have missed my post where I said the Leafs trading for Jones would be a bad idea.

I must have, but the post I quoted seems like you're trying to sell him off to us.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I must have, but the post I quoted seems like you're trying to sell him off to us.

Dude winning trades on a message board is a meaningless exercise.