Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by killer9318, Mar 5, 2004.
who will be the next doug gilmour, or who already plays like gilmour. same goes for wendel clark
Next Gilmour will be Cory Locke......next Clark is Torres IMO.
Yes Torres will be the next Clark hopefully he keeps it up
Gilmour ? Locke?
Seriously? Locke can't skate and he's far from physical.
Somebody on this board once said Derek Roy is the next Gilmour. I agree with that.
what about, Mike Richards = the next Gilmour?
LOL, come on now. How can you compare a successful retired hockey player to a guy who has played a bit more than 30+ games. Watching Gilmour in Calgary for a few years I am insulted that he would be compared to a guy that hasn't even tested the NHL yet.
We're comparing style.
Your idiocy fascinates me.
how bout these ones
gilmour-patrice bergeron,derek roy,tuommu ruttu,peter forsberg,smyth,mike york,scottie upshall,steve sullivan,scott gomez,mike peca,jason spezza,jeremy roenick,mike richards,mike comrie,doug weight,martin st.louis,brad richards,matt stajan,kyle wellwood,brenden morrison
Mattew Stajan - Ron Francis.
Kyle Wellwood - Mark Recchi.
That's just off the top of my head.
- Francis and Stajan are both very smart players with and without the puck. Not great skaters, but they know where to go on the ice. Both are very good two-way forwards.
- Recchi's a very smart player. Not very physical, not a great skater, and he's also a small player. They both see the ice well and have great hands around the net.
I'm sure someone can come up with a better comparison then those... but it's a comparison for those who don't get to see guys like Alyn McCauley (more fitting comparison for Stajan) much.
Locke's skating isn't that bad, I'd say it's average, so is his speed. He's not that physical though.
I'm not sure what you want considering the question "Who is the next Doug Gilmour?" and the fact this is a prospect board.
So just for you:
"Howie Morenz will be the next Doug Gilmour" or maybe if you want to be really accurate "Doug Gilmour will be the next Doug Gilmour"
I'd have to say that Matt Stajan reminds me quite a bit of Kevyn Adams. I've said this all along. Matt Stajan is Adams with finish. That should be taken as a great compliment, but i'm sure there will be some that take it as an insult. Kevyn is just a ball of energy out there and works hard on the forecheck and backcheck. Stajan seems to be that type of player as well. Adams is also a former first round selection who obviously has loads of talent, but lacks the finish to be an outstanding player. Stajan has that type of finish and is going to be a productive player for a long time.
As for Francis to Stajan, i'd have to say they are totally differant players. Francis is a horrible skater, possess below average speed, and has legendary vision and playmaking ability. Stajan is much faster, a much better skater, and doesn't so much possess the vision and playmaking ability that Ron Francis has. If Stajan is ever half the player Francis was, i'll be surprised. Francis plays outstanding defense, which is something i'm not sure if Stajan will ever be capable of. He's going to be solid, but unspectacular in his own end.
Stajan is one of the better defensive players on the Maple Leafs team.
You're way off.
The most similar young Canuck is probobly Ryan Kesler or Matt Cooke.
Cooke is small, hits hard, and has decent skill. Not close to as good as Gilmour, and is more of a role player (although one of the best roleplayers in the league).
Kesler is actually more of a Linden than a Gilmour, but aside from size, Gilmour and Linden weren't all that different. Kesler's main attribute is speed, but he's a good hitter. Hopefully he can show us his scoring touch in the AHL more. If he isn't on the Canucks roster next year, he should be good for about 30 - 40 points in the AHL.
Well, Ron Francis is considered an elite centerman. He has a Selke trophy to his credit, so saying you're not as good as Francis on defense doesn't mean a heck of a lot considering there are only a handful that are better. I'm not saying Stajan is bad, i'm just saying he's probably not going to be a Selke candidate in my mind. Your opinion may be differant, but thats mine.
guys this was a doug gilmour , wendel clark comparison thread, not a ron francis-matt stajan debate, please just give me some comparisons.
Torres will be the closest thing to Clark of anyone I can think of.
Did you not see the word "STYLE!" in my post?
I'm not expecting Stajan to win all the awards Francis has, I'm just pointing out that they have similar styles.
Well, I was talking about styles as well. I was simply adding the fact that Francis's great defensive play was documented by his being awarded the Selke trophy. I'm just saying that I don't see Stajan as that good of a defensive forward is all.
How often have you seen him play?
I watch quite a bit of Eastern Conference hockey. Granted, I haven't seen him very much at all prior to the start of this season but i've been watching him really closely once I heard that O'Neill to Toronto possibly hinged on Matt Stajan. Take it for what it's worth though.
LOL, LOL! Oh my freekin god! LOL! WTH makes you think Locke a small pint sized forward who does not play physical and has below average skating compare to Gilmour. Really? I live 30 seconds from the Civic and have many games. your doing a dis-service to Gilmour and overhyping another CHL player who will score a ton and never pan out.
But Props to the Torres-Clark comparison, that is very interesting.
I"d almost say pyatt-Clarke with a little more scoring... not sure though. Torres is pretty damn close!!!