waffledave
waffledave, from hf
It was 100% boarding... It seems people here think that it needs to be from behind to be boarding or something.
It was 100% boarding... It seems people here think that it needs to be from behind to be boarding or something.
It was 100% boarding... It seems people here think that it needs to be from behind to be boarding or something.
He had his arms extended and stick horizontal, perfectly in the middle of Max's numbers when the impact with the boards happened though, so it's obviously a little more complex than simply how they were oriented when their shoulders made first contact.
I would be willing to say it was 110% boarding. Look at how Max Patch hit the boards, his head was the principle point of impact. That play is exactly what the NHL is trying to get rid of
It was a legal hit. Pacioretty wasn't paying attention on the ice when he needs to be, thus putting himself in a bad position. He didn't brace himself to get hit or acknowledge the hit was coming and simply stood there. Sucks he got injured but you need to be aware of your surroundings when on the ice.
Apparently the NHL doesn't agree. This wasn't a hit from behind, and according to the NHL it wasn't even late.
And really? His head was the principal point of impact? Looks to me like his arms were, and if he hadn't spun it would have been his shoulder. You seem to be suggesting he was driven head first into the boards.
41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently in the boards. .
Boarding has zero to do with the point of contact with the player delivering the hit. The spirit of the penalty is where the player is relation to the boards, is player being hit defenseless, and the degree of the hitStoner made contact with his shoulder
Patches wasn't hit from behind. He was facing the blue line at the time he was hit.
he shouldn't have followed through with a push motion. The follow through turned it from a good hit to a bad one.
The onus is on the person giving the hit and not receiving it. The textbook definition of boarding is
It wasn't boarding as he was hit shoulder to shoulder.
You also left out the part that says:
"However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered."
Pacioretty wasn't in a defenseless position. He wasn't turned towards the boards or anything like that. He simply wasn't paying attention.
Hit was fine. It wasn't boarding as he was hit shoulder to shoulder. And it wasn't interference. Not Stoners fault that Pacioretty was admiring his pass. If he hadn't been admiring, he wouldn't have been off balance and had the weight distribution of a rag doll. The term keeping your head on a swivel was never more relevant than on this play. Hit was fine. Patches learned a lesson.
The onus is on the person giving the hit and not receiving it. The textbook definition of boarding is
Note: a check of shove of a defenseless opponent violently in to the boards
The other element in boarding is distance from the boards for the hit to be worse.
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As far as the principal point of contact? Homer Hayward in the video in the OP confirms it and even mentions how his helmet went in to the boards and the worry of a concussion.
A ref of the NHL missing is a call has zero creedence on whether something is actually a penalty or not. The Wheel of Justice joke didn't come out of nowhere
post sojourn edit
Boarding has zero to do with the point of contact with the player delivering the hit. The spirit of the penalty is where the player is relation to the boards, is player being hit defenseless, and the degree of the hit
Is there a rule in the rulebook that says admiring your pass is illegal? Who cares what he was doing, he hit a player in a vulnerable position 3 feet from the boards sending his head into the boards, exactly the type of thing the league is trying to get rid of. To think otherwise is ridiculous or ignorant. I would suspend him a game for sure.