CIS vs Team Canada

[AUS Fan]

Ben Stiener with his CIS team picks--

Predicting U SPORTS All-Stars for Canada's World Junior Camp

49 Sports' Ben Steiner projects the roster for the 2023 U SPORTS All-Stars to face Team Canada's World Junior Selection Camp.

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[MiamiHockeyII]

Most of the picks make sense, but for two things:
1) Doesn't Hockey Canada provide both goalies for each game? Not sure why a goalie would travel from Calgary just to practice.
2) Unless Hockey Canada has suddenly found a pot of gold, are the players / teams not responsible for their own travel? For that reason I don't see more than 2-3 players coming from outside Ontario. The Ontario-based AUS players make a ton of sense, as do the OUA players he's identified, but I wouldn't be surprised to see more OUA players filling in. Travel is expensive.

 

[FreddyFoyle]

Most of the picks make sense, but for two things:
1) Doesn't Hockey Canada provide both goalies for each game? Not sure why a goalie would travel from Calgary just to practice.
2) Unless Hockey Canada has suddenly found a pot of gold, are the players / teams not responsible for their own travel? For that reason I don't see more than 2-3 players coming from outside Ontario. The Ontario-based AUS players make a ton of sense, as do the OUA players he's identified, but I wouldn't be surprised to see more OUA players filling in. Travel is expensive.

Good points. The USports goalies WILL just be practice goalies, so a bit of a committment to go just for that, especially since I believe players have to pay their own travel costs, unless they are lucky enough to get their schools to subsidize them.

Also, extremely rare to see rookies named to the team. Usually the honour of being picked is reserved for veteran players. Another issue is exam schedules; if players have exams they can't get out of, or make arrangements for, they can't go.

 

[FreddyFoyle]

In other words, the "USports Selects" are not really an all-star team: it is a team of the best veteran players who aren't injured, don't have exam issues and can afford to attend.

 

[AUS Fan]

Most of the picks make sense, but for two things:
1) Doesn't Hockey Canada provide both goalies for each game? Not sure why a goalie would travel from Calgary just to practice.
2) Unless Hockey Canada has suddenly found a pot of gold, are the players / teams not responsible for their own travel? For that reason I don't see more than 2-3 players coming from outside Ontario. The Ontario-based AUS players make a ton of sense, as do the OUA players he's identified, but I wouldn't be surprised to see more OUA players filling in. Travel is expensive.

Good point on the goalies. I would agree that a couple of local guys can fill in.

This is Ben looking at a "full" CIS team based on stats.

Don't read too much in this, guys. This is Bens Dream Team.

 

[AUS Fan]

The games between CIS and TC are Dec 12 and Dec 13, both starting at 3 pm ET.

Games can be streamed at HockyCanada.ca

 

[FreddyFoyle]

I see Gibby maxed out his three Queens picks, as did Howell with 3 from Calgary. Urquhart from McGill only got one his players on team, and Lim from RMC didn't get any of his players. Unlike with FISU, Alberta is back with three players. No.1 UNB only places three players because that is the max per school.

 

[AUS Fan]

Here is the CIS team that will be playing TC -

U SPORTS MEN’S HOCKEY ALL-STAR ROSTER ​

Name	Position	University
Connor Ungar	Goaltender	Brock University
Simon Lavigne	Defence	Concordia University
Scott Walford	Defence	McGill University
Max Grondin	Forward	University of Ottawa
Jacob Paquette	Defence	Queen's University
Dalton Duhart	Forward	Queen's University
Jonathan Yantsis	Forward	Queen's University
Andrew Coxhead	Forward	Saint Mary's University
Matthew Struthers	Forward	St. Francis Xavier University
Kai Edmonds	Goaltender	Toronto Metropolitan University
Dylan Plouffe	Defence	University of Alberta
Eric Florchuk	Forward	University of Alberta
Josh Prokop	Forward	University of Alberta
Sasha Mutala	Forward	University of British Columbia
Noah King	Defence	University of Calgary
Riley Stotts	Forward	University of Calgary
Jake Gricius	Forward	University of Calgary
Adam McCormick	Defence	University of New Brunswick
Austen Keating	Forward	University of New Brunswick
Brady Gilmour	Forward	University of New Brunswick
Gunner Kinniburgh	Defence	University of Saskatchewan
Simon Lafrance	Forward	Université du Québec à Trois-Rivières

Name	Position	University
Brett Gibson	Head Coach	Queen's University
Mark Howell	General Manager / Associate	University of Calgary
David Urquhart	Assistant	McGill University
Richard Lim	Assistant	Royal Military College
Alex Jozsa	Video Coach	University of Calgary
Adam Ellwood	Athletic Therapist	University of Windsor
Jamie Nicholl-Carne	Equipment Manager	Queen's University

Keating will wear the "C" with LaFrance and King wearing "A".

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

I think that’s a real solid team…maybe as close to a true all-star team they have fielded.

 

[AUS Fan]

Lastly, link to the article :

UNB’s Austen Keating headlines roster for 2023 U SPORTS Men’s Hockey All-Star Series

usports.ca

I think that’s a real solid team…maybe as close to a true all-star team they have fielded.

Good roster....

 

[Drummer]

For most of these events - the goalies were from the CHL. There was one year, can't recall which one, they actually had USPORTS goalies playing and they had the CHL goalies rotate in. I could also be 100% wrong.

 

[AUS Fan]

For most of these events - the goalies were from the CHL. There was one year, can't recall which one, they actually had USPORTS goalies playing and they had the CHL goalies rotate in. I could also be 100% wrong.

Nope, you're correct. The TC goalies play for both teams.

In 2003 we had Fleury for a total of 1 period over 2 games.

 

[AUS Fan]

Entertaining game today. TC wins 4-2. Good pace by both teams but TC looked a bit quicker as the game went on.
CIS guys didn't look out of place.
All 4 goalies for TC played, splitting the game.
Regardless of the score they have a full 3-on-3 for practice and a shootout.
CIS scored the only goal in the 3-on-3 portion.
TC wins the SO 2-1.

Fun game

 

[RED ARMY EAST]

I think that’s a real solid team…maybe as close to a true all-star team they have fielded.

I would agree.

 

[dm8895]

Nope, you're correct. The TC goalies play for both teams.

In 2003 we had Fleury for a total of 1 period over 2 games.

In 2003 any idea if they had control over how the AUS team played ? I know a player who played on one of those “OUA Selects but not really all star” teams said they played systems selected by hockey Canada for the first and second half of the game kind of resembling the systems they expected the Americans and Finland to play as the entire point of the games was prep for the World Juniors.

 

[FreddyFoyle]

In 2003 any idea if they had control over how the AUS team played ? I know a player who played on one of those “OUA Selects but not really all star” teams said they played systems selected by hockey Canada for the first and second half of the game kind of resembling the systems they expected the Americans and Finland to play as the entire point of the games was prep for the World Juniors.

I know that AUS team was told after the first (?) intermission to stop pounding the piss out of the Junior kids. This is when Joel Ward came to the sudden attention of NHL scouts.

 

[AUS Fan]

I know that AUS team was told after the first (?) intermission to stop pounding the piss out of the Junior kids. This is when Joel Ward came to the sudden attention of NHL scouts.

Chris Stanley, Dan Tudin and Wardo were our "power" line.

Opening face-off, Scottie Upshall wins the draw back to the D-man and stands there admiring his work.
Stanley levelled him.

Yes, Marc Habsheid came to our room at the end of the 1st to ask Stieney to dial it back a bit.

 

[AUS Fan]

Doug Currie was the coach at UPEI and one of our coaches. I recall saying to him, as a joke that Fabian wanted to trade for Ward. Doug said: "I'll take Stanley and Tudin".

 

[AUS Fan]

CIS with a big 6-1 win over TC today.

TC scored in the 1st, CIS got 2 in the 2nd and 4 in the 3d.

Coxhead on a quick shot got it going, then Keating with a nice pass to Florchuk on a 2-on-1.
Stotts deflected a Prokop point shot with Struthers getting an assist.
Duhart scored a scramble goal and Florchuk with a nice individual effort (bar down) to make it 5-1.

TC pulled the goalie with about 5 min left and CIS took a penalty to make it 6-on-4.
Rosseau (Mooseheads) was solid for the kill and Struthers got the EN goal in the last minute.

One note: When I bought my "pass" yesterday I thought it was for both games.
Had to pay $15 today as well.
I enjoyed both games.

Since they went with the CIS All Star team concept in 2015 CIS leads 7-6.

 

[FreddyFoyle]

As I responded/tweeted to Little Ben, it is little surprise the USports guys tend to win the second game. They're more mature and experienced players, so better able to adjust their game plan and systems to match their opponents. Figure out what didn't work in Game 1 and change it for Game 2. Because of their weekend schedule they are more used to back-to-back high stakes games. And maybe the biggest factor is that for the Juniors, what is their individual stress level knowing cuts are coming based on their performance? They are teenagers after all, and this is the biggest tryout of their lives to date.

Also, don't forget the healthy scratches are the older players who have already made the team.

If I was a betting man, based on stats I would propose that Samuel St-Hilaire is not going to be among the three goalies making the trip to Worlds. But I could be wrong, and DiVincentiis gets cut.

 

[AUS Fan]

As I responded/tweeted to Little Ben, it is little surprise the USports guys tend to win the second game. They're more mature and experienced players, so better able to adjust their game plan and systems to match their opponents. Figure out what didn't work in Game 1 and change it for Game 2. Because of their weekend schedule they are more used to back-to-back high stakes games. And maybe the biggest factor is that for the Juniors, what is their individual stress level knowing cuts are coming based on their performance? They are teenagers after all, and this is the biggest tryout of their lives to date.

Also, don't forget the healthy scratches are the older players who have already made the team.

If I was a betting man, based on stats I would propose that Samuel St-Hilaire is not going to be among the three goalies making the trip to Worlds. But I could be wrong, and DiVincentiis gets cut.

TC did not look as sharp as yesterday. I agree with your goaltending cut. Rousseau is #1 in my books. I thought all 4 Moosehead guys played well, overall.

Rumor is they will only keep 12 forwards, hoping for an NHL player to be added.

 

[AUC Regular]

Chris Stanley, Dan Tudin and Wardo were our "power" line.

Opening face-off, Scottie Upshall wins the draw back to the D-man and stands there admiring his work.
Stanley levelled him.

Yes, Marc Habsheid came to our room at the end of the 1st to ask Stieney to dial it back a bit.

LOL. Great story.