Yep, nothing at this point worth losing any players. Just win the games to qualify and win the division and keep healthy. I didn't expect them to win in Tampa and they made a game out of it. Regular season stuff don't matter anyway.
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Yep, nothing at this point worth losing any players. Just win the games to qualify and win the division and keep healthy. I didn't expect them to win in Tampa and they made a game out of it. Regular season stuff don't matter anyway.
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I didn't see that. Peckham and Engblom are not that hard to listen to. There are worse
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You are looking forward to watching the Caps play a rested TB on the back end of a back to back??? Seriously?
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I thought you liked our team
Everything about the rest of the season is now worth looking forward too. Least, IMO. 10 games left in the 1st season. It’s fun!
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Whats the real stats on B2Bs.
I personally believe its overstated.
Remembering that each matchup is different, what percentage of teams lose when they would have won rested?
This isnt the 90s, guys are pretty fit.
I personally believe its overstated.
Remembering that each matchup is different, what percentage of teams lose when they would have won rested?
This isnt the 90s, guys are pretty fit.
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I do like our team. I would love to see the Caps and TB play a even up game in DC.
The back end of a back to back isntvwhat I would ask for.
Are those the conditions you would ask for?
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Maybe put a little faith in that team you so like. Them overcoming adversity is a reason I like them
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I am not sure what you are saying? Having faith and putting any cred on the results of a back end of a back to back are different things. The Caps will have a better chance to win the 3rd game on the road with both teams rested than this next one. You don't agree? You think its a fair fight? I have faith. I just wont be joining the meltdown if they lose.
In the playoffs you never get to play a team that played the night before.
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txpd
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This is likely much more about who they played and how the Caps were playing at that time of the season, than it is about the Caps having to play back to back. Weren't a handful of those B2Bs during our losing streak in January? Someone posted a stat about teams playing B2B vs rested teams, and then rested teams vs teams playing B2B, and the results were largely random. Some good teams did well, some did poorly. Some bad teams did well, some did poorly. The results, much like faceoff percentage, just didn't correlate to much.
In terms of looking forward to the game, do you only look forward to games you expect them to win? I look forward to the most challenging games much more so than games vs hapless AHL teams playing out the string. It's hardly an "unfair fight" to play a team after you played the previous night.
This will be another real test. I look forward to it a lot, but just like you, I won't join the meltdown if we don't pass. Its a practice test, not the real final exam!
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1. Yes, it depends on how well they played. The Caps started strong and lost two back games straight out of the gate. They have won 2 back to back games in a row playing crappy teams.
2. That it doesn't matter is plain horseshit. Ive seen Reirden several times this season discuss how he coaches completely differently in back to back games trying to make up the disadvantage. Maybe he doesn't know what he is talking about and is wasting his time. What do I know? But he seems to think that its enough of a challenge to change how he uses his players.
Edit: Ever hear a coach or an analyst say that the Caps are playing a team that played last night and that they need to jump on them right away? They constantly comment about how to take advantage of the fatigue of a team that played the night before. If you think it doesn't matter, I don't know what else to say
The only really impactful change he's made is the goalie which is nearly universal, nothing interesting about that. Swapping out one 4th liner part time scratch for another 4th liner part time scratch is hardly going to compensate for the B2B. Players and coaches and media can all talk about it, just like they all talk about FO%. But there's little evidence that it actually correlates to winning% overall.
And I didn't say it doesn't matter at all. But playing TB without rest is obviously different than playing the AHL Sens without rest. Who you play matters much more than when you play them.
Also B2B on the road vs B2B at home matters, as well as how far both teams may have traveled, including time zones.
Here is the best statistical data I could find. Looks like across all situations, the advantage maxes out around 3% more winning percentage. In fact too much rest reduced winning %.
https://www.tsn.ca/yost-rest-makes-a-major-difference-in-nhl-performance-1.120073
Interesting study. Looks at rest surplus vs rest deficit and compares goals, fenwick and winning %.
But I disagree with its title, ~3% is not a major difference. A one day deficit at home is 1.1% difference. Not nothing, but not massive.
Here is the best statistical data I could find. Looks like across all situations, the advantage maxes out around 3% more winning percentage. In fact too much rest reduced winning %.
https://www.tsn.ca/yost-rest-makes-a-major-difference-in-nhl-performance-1.120073
Interesting study. Looks at rest surplus vs rest deficit and compares goals, fenwick and winning %.
But I disagree with its title, ~3% is not a major difference. A one day deficit at home is 1.1% difference. Not nothing, but not massive.
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Great Dane! Love that Eller feller.
Of course. However, the statement was:
In the playoffs you never get to play a team that played the night before.
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Yes, so technically on rare occasions, I WAS WRONG!!!!!!!!! Factually, we are talking about one team, the Caps, playing the night before against a rested team, the Lightning. That scenario doesn't happen in the playoffs.
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Yes, you are correct.
No back to backs for a team versus a rested team.
Don't give Buttman any ideas, however.
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I kind of hate the mandatory day off between games in the loffs. The away team must HATE it more than me, especially after a loss. Days off should be for travel.
The league tries to alternate games between the conferences but once series's start ending, fans and players alike are sitting around in consideration of games in another conference that may never happen.
Somehow, the league did just fine with back to back playoff games. Its great for traveling fans as well.
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