Value of: CBJ UFAS + Goaltenders

[Cowumbus]

Ask for Jenner and Elvis/Korpisalo?

From what team ?

 

[Cowumbus]

Kerfoot and a pick for Jenner? Kerfoot has put up similar totals to Jenner despite less ice time and lesser linemates. Leafs could use a player like Jenner for the playoffs

No. Kerfoot is not what we need.

If he’s close to Jenner just keep him :smile:

 

[CoachWithNoTeam]

Picks, prospects, and futures would be preferred. Particularly center and defense prospects.

It’s not absolutely necessary to trade one of the goalies now but it is a position of strength and likely one will be moved within the next year.

 

[TML1967]

Safe to say you can put a fork in CBJ for the 2021 season. How would you value the following players and how likely is it that you feel they’re moved?

Nick Foligno *c* (Rumored interest from Avalanche, Islanders, and Leafs)

David Savaard (#1 on TSN trade board)

Joonas Korprisalo OR Elvis Merzlikins
(With the other being signed to CBJ long term)

Riley Nash

Boone Jenner (UFA after 2022 season)

Feel free to add any other player you feel is likely to be moved that I may have missed.

Did Nash leave the last game with an injury?

 

[rotsbu]

Kerfoot is not of interest for a number of reasons:
1) He's not top-6 capable, so that doesn't solve any problems here
2) We have no desire to downgrade further at C
3) His contract extends an extra year into that period where we'll be trying to retain Jones, Werenski, Laine, one of the goaltenders, and a few others
4) We're just way too f***ing tired of seeing his name over and over and over and over and over and

So no.

May I copy this for potential future cut-and-paste use in the event I'm the first CBJ loyalist to encounter any of the 1000+ Kerfoot posts were going to see between now and TDL?

 

[Viqsi]

May I copy this for potential future cut-and-paste use in the event I'm the first CBJ loyalist to encounter any of the 1000+ Kerfoot posts were going to see between now and TDL?

Go right ahead.

 

[AmadiosAmigos]

Alex Turcotte + Kale Clague + 2nd (2021) + 2nd (2023)

for

Werenski

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

From what team ?

I think Maple Leafs.

 

[koteka]

In particular, blueline prospects are of reduced value because our blueline is still largely set.

Actually the CBJ could use a couple of defensive prospects (one on each side). Peake should be in the NHL full-time next year. After that there is nothing in the pipeline for defense. A recently drafted (2020 or 2019) guy who is in college or Europe who is developing well but maybe 2 or 3 years away from being serious NHL player would be of interest.

 

[Viqsi]

Actually the CBJ could use a couple of defensive prospects (one on each side). Peake should be in the NHL full-time next year. After that there is nothing in the pipeline for defense. A recently drafted (2020 or 2019) guy who is in college or Europe who is developing well but maybe 2 or 3 years away from being serious NHL player would be of interest.

I'm less concerned about the pipeline because the blueliners we do have are largely 1) young and 2) not going anywhere anytime soon. So I imagine that can be handled with late picks over the next year or three rather than being pursued right now when we have bigger, more glaring priorities.

 

[Dumais]

Alex Turcotte + Kale Clague + 2nd (2021) + 2nd (2023)

for

Werenski

I'll give ya this, it's got a player we would target. But if we are giving up Werenski or Jones; we better be getting a proven #1 C in return...even if CBJ needs to add pieces to get one.

 

[koteka]

I'm less concerned about the pipeline because the blueliners we do have are largely 1) young and 2) not going anywhere anytime soon. So I imagine that can be handled with late picks over the next year or three rather than being pursued right now when we have bigger, more glaring priorities.

The franchise has done very well finding late round draft picks and undrafted types who become solid defensemen - Nuti, Gavrikov, Kukan - but it is dangerous to assume that will continue. Also dangerous to assume we are in good shape because we have 2 really good defensemen plus Gavrikov. The defense has been atrocious at times this year. All the recent top draft picks have been forwards. The last first or 2nd round defensemen taken was Peeke in 2016. You always need solid guys in the pipeline, and other than Peeke, there isn’t a whole lot to be excited about.

Also, teams rumored looking at Foligno have better D depth than forward depth, so they would be more likely to give up a good D prospect.

 

[The Jones Zone]

I'm guessing Columbus wants to keep Korpisalo

Elvis could likely be had if the return is what they need

picks are fine, what they really need is a package deal for a legit 2C

I don't think they can put a package together for a legit 1C......2C may be a realistic return

 

[LTIR]

RNH +Koskinen+C.Jones
for
Merzlikins+Foligno+?

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Just having fun.

Foligno(twice retained) + Jenner + Korpisalo

For
1st + Amirov + Andersen (cap; owed minimal $) + Engvall or Mikhayev

*pick to additional team to retain some of Foligno

*think we'd still need to shed Kerfoot cap somewhere else

Foligno - Matthews - Marner
Galchenyuk - Tavares - Nylander
Hyman - Jenner - Engvall/Mikhayev
Simmonds - Spezza - Robertson

Rielly - Brodie
Muzz - Holl
Dermott - Bogosian

Campbell
Korpi

 

[BrannigansLaw]

What's the price for Merzlikins? I'd love for the Leafs to somehow do a Foligno + Merzlikins trade but that has about 0 percent chance of happening.

RNH +Koskinen+C.Jones
for
Merzlikins+Foligno+?

lol

Columbus gets absolutely fleeced.

 

[Cowumbus]

RNH +Koskinen+C.Jones
for
Merzlikins+Foligno+?

Deal (if RNH is willing to sign here).

 

[Doggy]

Deal (if RNH is willing to sign here).

Depending on the ??? I approve this message.

 

[LTIR]

Deal (if RNH is willing to sign here).

That would up to CBJ and RNH.
The deal would be for a pending UFA RNH and pending UFA Foligno.

It would be a test drive for both GMs.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Just having fun.

Foligno(twice retained) + Jenner + Korpisalo

For
1st + Amirov + Andersen (cap; owed minimal $) + Engvall or Mikhayev

*pick to additional team to retain some of Foligno

*think we'd still need to shed Kerfoot cap somewhere else

Foligno - Matthews - Marner
Galchenyuk - Tavares - Nylander
Hyman - Jenner - Engvall/Mikhayev
Simmonds - Spezza - Robertson

Rielly - Brodie
Muzz - Holl
Dermott - Bogosian

Campbell
Korpi

That is just absolutely terrible. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Doggy]

(regarding Foligno + Elvis for RNH, Caleb Jones and Koskinen):

lol, Columbus gets absolutely fleeced.

I think this is a fair deal as long as RNH is willing to agree to terms on his next contract ahead of time). You have to not just look at what a team is getting but also what a team is losing.

CBJ get: potentially a #1 Centre. RNH will be the #1 C on the UFA market this off season so the CBJ should be bidding for him anyway...if they can get past the bidding war and just lock him up now its worth it. They also get a backup goalie who can handle more than a backup load (though could be lost in the expansion draft)

Oilers gets: a legit NHL goalie who might be a star plus a loaner forward who does a little bit of everything and is a big help for the playoffs.

CBJ lose: a potential star goalie but they already have another starter on the roster plus a guy in Cleveland who many think has more upside than Elvis and Korpi and could be the starter within three years anyway and a forward they might re-sign in the off-season after trading him away.

Oilers lose: a C/F they are struggling to sign anyway (likely because he wants the chance to prove he's a top line C, a throw away d-man and a goalie they no longer need because Elvis will be in the house.

In the end, neither team is giving up something they can't afford to lose and both teams are getting something they really need. Its a win-win trade...which means it will likely not happen.

 

[themelkman]

Sharks should ask on the better of the goalies.

 

[Doggy]

That would up to CBJ and RNH.
The deal would be for a pending UFA RNH and pending UFA Foligno.

It would be a test drive for both GMs.

That's silly. Then its no-deal. If there is no assurance RNH is signing with the CBJ then we might as well let him hit UFA at the end of the season and make our best offer then. Save Elvis for another trade.

 

[LTIR]

That's silly. Then its no-deal. If there is no assurance RNH is signing with the CBJ then we might as well let him hit UFA at the end of the season and make our best offer then. Save Elvis for another trade.

It really depends on what CBJ value more. Test driving and potentially extending RNH + Koskinen or adding 2 x 2nd round picks.

Elvis would fetch you a 2nd
Foligno would likely fetch a 2nd + prospect like Jones

Do it quick enough and if RNH doesn't seem like a fit you can flip him at the deadline for something else.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

That is just absolutely terrible. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Jeeesh a simple no woulda sufficed.



1st and Amirov are quite valuable, dood.. not to mention Mik and Engvall are solid NHLers.