Value of: Carolina - Buffalo

[SnuggaRUDE]

Actually it is.
As you pointed out, it's between fans, as such, as a Sabres fan, given the Eichel - Reinhart chemistry, what we are attempting to build in the forward ranks, our blue line, while appearing subpar took a good step depth wise in the Nelson signing today, we would want more than Hanifin.

Reinhart and Hanifin are A level assets. Of course you'd trade one for two, but that's facile as ****.

 

[Yatzhee]

Reinhart and Hanifin are A level assets. Of course you'd trade one for two, but that's facile as ****.

No, it's not.
A Carolina fan wants Reinhart. Buffalo fans don't want to trade him.
So, overpay massively to make it happen or move along.
It's quite simple really.

 

[Roboturner913]

the notion that Reinhart would draw a + on top of Hanifin is ludicrous. D-men are worth more than forwards, today proved that. Carolina probably comes out behind in overall value in the long run, they're not adding to it. We're already overpaying as it is.

As to the idea that Carolina is "coming to you" this isn't an Oilers situation where they're desperately begging at the doorstep of every team. Carolina is very happy developing its own forwards, which are a pretty damn good group already. Somebody like Reinhart would be an amazing addition but not enough to sacrifice multiple prospects for.

 

[Yatzhee]

the notion that Reinhart would draw a + on top of Hanifin is ludicrous. D-men are worth more than forwards, today proved that. Carolina probably comes out behind in overall value in the long run, they're not adding to it.

As to the idea that Carolina is "coming to you" this isn't an Oilers situation where they're desperately begging at the doorstep of every team. Carolina is very happy developing its own forwards, which are a pretty damn good group already. Somebody like Reinhart would be an amazing addition but not enough to sacrifice multiple prospects for.

No overpayment, no Reinhart.
Have a nice day now..........bye bye

 

[WhiteTrashAmerican]

These two guys are some of the last players that these teams would trade. The notion that Buffalo would even considering giving up Reinhart is not worth even talking about IMO...

 

[Paxon]

the notion that Reinhart would draw a + on top of Hanifin is ludicrous. D-men are worth more than forwards, today proved that. Carolina probably comes out behind in overall value in the long run, they're not adding to it. We're already overpaying as it is.

As to the idea that Carolina is "coming to you" this isn't an Oilers situation where they're desperately begging at the doorstep of every team. Carolina is very happy developing its own forwards, which are a pretty damn good group already. Somebody like Reinhart would be an amazing addition but not enough to sacrifice multiple prospects for.

Not gonna argue the rest but how did today's single trade of a winger for a defenseman prove anything about the relative value of defensemen and forwards?

 

[Roboturner913]

No overpayment, no Reinhart.
Have a nice day now..........bye bye

Why all the snark? There's no need for that.

 

[Roboturner913]

Not gonna argue the rest but how did today's single trade of a winger for a defenseman prove anything about the relative value of defensemen and forwards?

The fact that Edmonton couldn't get a better defenseman than Larsson for one of the league's highest-scoring forwards kind of paints a picture. All else being equal, it seems obvious that if you're comparing a defenseman and a forward of roughly equal talent, the defenseman is going to be worth a bit more.

 

[Unsustainable]

Reinhart and Hanifin are A level assets.

The more I think about it, Hanifin / Reinhart would be a fare swap. However Canes would win the trade today, but 5 years? I think Buffalo wins it.

 

[Beerz]

The fact that Edmonton couldn't get a better defenseman than Larsson for one of the league's highest-scoring forwards kind of paints a picture. All else being equal, it seems obvious that if you're comparing a defenseman and a forward of roughly equal talent, the defenseman is going to be worth a bit more.

1 Trade says nothing to that.

All it says is that Chia didn't value Hall like HFPosters did... and really that's all that matters.

 

[McPhatty00]

Not gonna argue the rest but how did today's single trade of a winger for a defenseman prove anything about the relative value of defensemen and forwards?

Today proved that it's only a matter of time until Chiarelli is fired, again.

 

[DJN21]

the notion that Reinhart would draw a + on top of Hanifin is ludicrous. D-men are worth more than forwards, today proved that. Carolina probably comes out behind in overall value in the long run, they're not adding to it. We're already overpaying as it is.

As to the idea that Carolina is "coming to you" this isn't an Oilers situation where they're desperately begging at the doorstep of every team. Carolina is very happy developing its own forwards, which are a pretty damn good group already. Somebody like Reinhart would be an amazing addition but not enough to sacrifice multiple prospects for.

agree to disagree.

 

[Mit Yarrum]

I like Hanifin like everyone else, but no, I'm not trading Reinhart to get him.

 

[Paxon]

The fact that Edmonton couldn't get a better defenseman than Larsson for one of the league's highest-scoring forwards kind of paints a picture. All else being equal, it seems obvious that if you're comparing a defenseman and a forward of roughly equal talent, the defenseman is going to be worth a bit more.

We don't know what else was out there. Hall being a natural winger is also an important consideration. I value defensemen highly but one trade doesn't validate that or indicate standard league-wide values.

 

[Roboturner913]

We don't know what else was out there. Hall being a natural winger is also and important consideration. I value defensemen highly but one trade doesn't validate that or indicate standard league-wife values.

My league-wife's more valuable than yours

 

[MayDayMayDay]

Not for sale.

 

[Paxon]

My league-wife's more valuable than yours

I'm a bad tablet typist

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Reinhart for Hanafin then give us a good deal on Skinner or take Moulson's contract

 

[Bollski]

We don't know what else was out there. Hall being a natural winger is also an important consideration. I value defensemen highly but one trade doesn't validate that or indicate standard league-wide values.

I agree.

The fact of the matter is you'd have to grossly overpay for us to consider moving Reinhart. It would be faulk/hanifin + another blue-chip player.

It's completely unfair value, I know. But we're just not in the market for moving Reinhart. I get why everyone would be so interested in him - we have O'Reilly and Eichel locked up long term as our C's, and other teams would use Reinhart as a C - but we're just not trading him unless it's something that would hurt the future of your franchise

 

[lifeisruff]

Is Faulk better then Hanifin? Because then the answer isn't Hanifin, it's Faulk.

 

[Bollski]

Is Faulk better then Hanifin? Because then the answer isn't Hanifin, it's Faulk.

depends on how you view them long term.

I meannnn Faulk couldn't even make the US WC roster

I kid, I kid, Faulk is awesome, would absolutely love him on the Sabres. But not for Samsonite

 

[leafsnat1on]

I think a small add from Buffalo for Hanifin would be needed though.

Here's our D:

Hanifin - Faulk
Slavin - Pesce
Hainsey - Wiz
Carrick - Murphy
Fluery - McKeown
Bean

That D looking great.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Oh the fun that ensues when people necrobump threads. Closed.