Carly's odd shoot-out choices are costing us big playoff points.

[MoeMoney]

I'm all for teaching someone a lesson, but against Winnepeg using 10 shooters and not Grabo was plain dumb, you really showed em there Randy, I bet the Jets were thrilled not to see our best sniper shooting... And last night benching Grabo/JVR/Kessel on the 3rd shot and letting Kulemin shoot in the same game he scored a breakaway goal, in the same game Rask saw his move already , knew exactly what he was going to do, and easily stopped it.... That was so mind boggling. Surely that must of crossed his mind? Prolly to busy trying to glue Kessel/JVR to the bench all the while constantly rewarding their ever so flimsy Centreman. How about switching the lines up and giving them a chance to play with someone other then Bozak before benching them? Kinda like Julien did. So sad to see JVR standing on the bench there for 13 minutes not get a single shift.

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[rojac]

I'm all for teaching someone a lesson, but against Winnepeg using 10 shooters and not Grabo was plain dumb, you really showed em there Randy, I bet the Jets were thrilled not to see our best sniper shooting... And last night benching Grabo/JVR/Kessel on the 3rd shot and letting Kulemin shoot in the same game he scored a breakaway goal, in the same game Rask saw his move already , knew exactly what he was going to do, and easily stopped it.... That was so mind boggling. Surely that must of crossed his mind? Prolly to busy trying to glue Kessel/JVR to the bench all the while constantly rewarding their ever so flimsy Centreman.

That ever so flimsy Centreman is the best shootout scorer on the Leafs, so why shouldn't he be used?

 

[Bowie]

We're still in 6th place no need to go into panic mode yet. Shootouts can go either way and unfortunately the Leafs have had bad luck in them.

 

[X66]

Quick Fact, only 1 leaf has scored a shoot out goal this year...

#blameCarlyle

 

[showtime8]

It is hard to imagine that only 1 player has scored in the shootout and it isn't the golden boy either.

There have been lots of reports that are saying Carlyle doesn't practice the shootout, whereas Wilson did at most of his practices.

Easy to kick a guy when he's down, but I would rather Carlyle work on playing a sound defensive game (or at least try to) than practice a skills competition that isn't very likely. I wonder what the percentage is of games that go to a shootout.

 

[MoeMoney]

That ever so flimsy Centreman is the best shootout scorer on the Leafs, so why shouldn't he be used?

Don't get me wrong that was a great shot and I know Bozak is solid on the shoot-out but I'm more so talking about gametime minutes. If the whole line is struggling why bench JVR/Kessel and play favourites with Bozak? TBH Bozak is not skilled enough to keep up with them on a regular basis that's just how I feel.

 

[JacobimMugatu]

Don't get me wrong that was a great shot and I know Bozak is solid on the shoot-out but I'm more so talking about gametime minutes. If the whole line is struggling why bench JVR/Kessel and play favourites with Bozak? TBH Bozak is not skilled enough to keep up with them on a regular basis that's just how I feel.

When not producing Kessel/JVR are pretty useless
When not producing Bozak can still be a useful player

 

[pdmuck]

I have no problem using Kulemin in the shootout - he's been hot with 3 goals in his last 5 games. Not using Grabo in Winnipeg when you're 10 shooters into it though was a major gaff.

 

[Jeebs]

Don't get me wrong that was a great shot and I know Bozak is solid on the shoot-out but I'm more so talking about gametime minutes. If the whole line is struggling why bench JVR/Kessel and play favourites with Bozak? TBH Bozak is not skilled enough to keep up with them on a regular basis that's just how I feel.

If you're not talking about the shoot out. Why is the title of your thread about the shoot out.

The reason JVR sat is because he did absolutely nothing with the time he was on the ice. Players that were generating offense got that time instead. Should JVR get ice time just because he's JVR?

I had issues with Carlyle's shoot out choices against Winnipeg but I don't think there's too much you can fault him with on last night's choices. I'm sure Kulemin has more than 1 break away move.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

It may not have occurred to you but he probably intentionally didn't put Kessel in to save him what would have been an endless onslaught had he not converted. The guy is top 10 in the world for scoring the past two season's worth of games yet all you hear every day is "the trade". Imagine how much the media would have beat the drums if he was in as 3rd shooter and failed to convert?

Very good call on Carlyle's part.

 

[NazemKadri43]

I was surprised he didnt use Hamilton, Eakins last season told Caryle that was one of his big strengths if it ever came to a shootout

 

[FriedEgg]

Kulemin needs to try something different in the so. I swear every attempt is that half deke then shot low blocker.

 

[HarrisonFord]

I'd like to see:
Bozak
Kadri
Kessel/Lupul

 

[Yosho]

Kulemin needs to try something different in the so. I swear every attempt is that half deke then shot low blocker.

It IS the only thing he's ever done in the SO. He hasn't ever tried something different.

He did this 4 years ago, successfully, and has yet to change it up.

 

[Gutchecktime]

Loser Points in the East
NJD 7
OTT 6
FLA 6
MTL 5
BUF 4
TOR 4

I know there's a lot of griping about missed points but as you can see, quite a lot of loser points being handed out in the East.

 

[SprDaVE]

Odd shootout choices? No one is scoring!

With the talent we have, it's unacceptable not to be able to score in a skills competition.

 

[Dayjobdave]

Carlyle is coaching the team to have the level of commitment that GOT them to the shootout in the second game of a back to back against Boston, in Boston's building.

The same level that got them to a shootout against Pitt, who hasn't lost in forever and has the two most talented forwards in the league.

If those odd shootout choices make Kessel make another game-preserving back-check like the one he did on Seguin the other night, or they turn JVR into a 200 foot force on the ice for the next 6 years, I'm prepared to give Randy and his cup ring a little more rope.

 

[12345678910]

They're not scoring, so not picking them isn't really a big deal. If anything we gotta get out supposed SO specialist kadri scoring. I'd like to see him mix it up and not just be chopping onions like he has been doing.

 

[VanW27]

How can anyone be pissed about JVR being benched? The guy has been brutal lately.

 

[rwb]

I bet the Jets were thrilled not to see our best sniper shooting...

I'm pretty sure Kessel shot didn't he? Unless you're suggesting that Grabo is the best sniper on the team?

It IS the only thing he's ever done in the SO. He hasn't ever tried something different.

He did this 4 years ago, successfully, and has yet to change it up.

Yeah, he at least used to try switching it up with that backhand shelf move once in a while...but he hasn't done anything but the backhand-forehand move for seemingly forever.

 

[JAMmer124]

Honestly, he had 2/3 shooters right last night. Bozak is our best shootout guy percentage wise, and Kadri has the best hands on the team.

Can't really argue Kulemin, he's hot right now. Though he seriously needs a new move. Everyone in the world knows what he'll do.

 

[I am Canadian]

It IS the only thing he's ever done in the SO. He hasn't ever tried something different.

He did this 4 years ago, successfully, and has yet to change it up.

That's how he scored his first goal, his go to move..
He actually did try going to his backhand in the shootout once.

 

[Hotshot320]

Carlyle could put out McLaren, Fraser and Orr.. The outcome is going to be the same as if he puts anyone you think is going to score out there.

We are 3/21 I think with Bozak scoring all three. Let that sink in. No one on this team, besides Bozak, has scored in the shootout this year.

We just aren't good at breakaways. A harder push needs to be made in OT even if we lose the odd one.

 

[namttebih]

I was surprised he didnt use Hamilton, Eakins last season told Caryle that was one of his big strengths if it ever came to a shootout

I was pleading for Hamilton last night after after overtime.

 

[blue82]

are players allowed to start from their own end of the ice? ..i just would like to see somebody like kulie or kessel go in at full speed as if someone was chasing them down..they score alot during a game on breakaways..not sure why no one does that?