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Here’s my spreadsheet for upcoming UFAs, each team’s cap situation, and a trade tracker. I update the spreadsheet daily. I use CapFriendly to create this list and AFP Analytics for the contract projections.

Edit: Spreadsheet has been updated with AFP's latest projections and I added a new section for RFAs.

Spoiler: UFAs By Position

Top-6 Forwards
Sam Reinhart	RW	28	8y/10.25m
Jake Guentzel	W	29	6y/7.94m
Steven Stamkos	LW/C	34	3y/6.30m
Jonathan Marchessault	W	33	3y/6.25m
Joe Pavelski	RW	39	1y/3.94m
Matt Duchene	RW/C	33	3y/6.46m
Sean Monahan	FW	29	3y/2.87m
Tyler Toffoli	W	32	5y/6.53m
Jonathan Drouin	W	29	4y/4.46m
Teuvo Teravainen	W	29	5y/6.13m
Vladimir Tarasenko	RW	32	3y/5.64m
Adam Henrique	LW/C	34	2y/4.60m
Chandler Stephenson	C/LW	30	5y/5.77m
Max Domi	C/RW	29	3y/4.17m
Patrick Kane	RW	35	2y/5.51m
Elias Lindholm	C/RW	29	7y/8.04m
Anthony Mantha	W	29	3y/4.40m
Daniel Sprong	W	27	3y/3.89m
Jake DeBrusk	W	27	5y/5.92m
David Perron	W	36	2y/2.80m
Tyler Bertuzzi	W	29	5y/6.00m
Anthony Duclair	W	28	3y/3.22m
Jason Zucker	W	32	3y/5.46m
Jack Roslovic	C/RW	27	3y/3.11m
Max Pacioretty	LW	35
Alexander Barabanov	W	30	3y/3.03m

Top-4 Defecemen
Shayne Gostisbehere	LD/RD	31	3y/4.38m
Brady Skjei	LD	30	6y/7.39m
Noah Hanifin	LD	27	7y/7.69m
Brandon Montour	RD	30	7y/8.71m
Oliver Ekman-Larsson	LD	32	3y/3.67m
Dylan DeMelo	RD	31	4y/5.07m
Sean Walker	LD/RD	29	4y/4.87m
Matt Roy	RD	29	4y/5.58m
TJ Brodie	LD/RD	34	3y/4.91m
Brenden Dillon	LD	33	2y/3.91m
Alexandre Carrier	RD	27	3y/3.57m
Nikita Zadorov	LD/RD	29	4y/5.10m
Chris Tanev	RD	34	3y/4.68m
Brett Pesce	RD	29	6y/6.72m
Matt Grzelcyk	LD	30	3y/4.07m
Oliver Kylington	LD/RD	27

Bottom-6 Forwards
James van Riemsdyk	W	35	1y/1.50m
Warren Foegele	W	28	4y/3.58m
Stefan Noesen	W	31	2y/3.23m
Danton Heinen	W	28
Tyler Johnson	FW	33
Alexander Wennberg	C	29	4y/4.21m
Jordan Martinook	W	31	2y/2.79m
Dakota Joshua	LW	28	3y/3.00m
Michael Amadio	W	28
Teddy Blueger	C/LW	29	2y/2.56m
Sam Lafferty	FW	29	2y/1.72m
Kiefer Sherwood	W	29
Mike Hoffman	LW	34	1y/1.86m
Tomas Tatar	W	33	1y/2.21m
Kyle Okposo	RW	36	1y/1.96m
Kasperi Kapanen	RW	27
Andrew Cogliano	LW	37
Jakob Silfverberg	W	33	2y/2.78m
Cal Clutterbuck	RW	36
Corey Perry	RW	39
Patrick Maroon	W	36
Yakov Trenin	LW/C	27	3y/3.33m
Dominik Kubalik	W	28	2y/1.34m
Anthony Beauvillier	W	27
Sam Carrick	C/RW	32
Tanner Pearson	LW	31
Zemgus Girgensons	LW/C	30	2y/1.74m
Colin Blackwell	C/RW	31
Brandon Duhaime	W	27
Nick Cousins	LW/C	30
Connor Brown	W	30
Joel Kiviranta	W	28
William Carrier	LW	29	3y/2.68m
Tyler Motte	W	29	3y/2.55m
Samuel Blais	W	28	1y/0.94m
Tyson Jost	C	26

Bottom-Pairing Defencemen
Erik Gustafsson	LD	32	3y/4.99m
Tyler Myers	RD	34	2y/2.67m
Justin Schultz	RD	33	2y/3.81m
Kevin Shattenkirk	RD	35	1y/1.37m
Jalen Chatfield	RD	28	3y/2.77m
Mike Reilly	LD	30	1y/1.24m
Dmitry Kulikov	LD/RD	33
Alec Martinez	LD	36	1y/1.7m
Tyson Barrie	RD	32	2y/3.72m
Jani Hakanpaa	RD	32	2y/2.38m
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Ian Cole	LD/RD	35	2y/3.09m
Matt Dumba	RD	29	3y/3.73m
Colin Miller	RD	31
Mark Giordano	LD	40	1y/3.11m
Marco Scandella	LD	34
Calvin De Haan	LD/RD	33
Josh Brown	RD	30
Ilya Lyubushkin	RD	30	1y/1.31m
Joel Edmundson	LD/RD	31
Troy Stecher	RD	30
Derek Forbort	LD	32
Erik Johnson	RD	36	1y/1.13m

Forward Depth
Christian Fischer	W	27
Craig Smith	RW	34
Victor Olofsson	W	28
Trevor Lewis	RW/C	37
Justin Bailey	RW	29
Kevin Stenlund	C/RW	27
Jeff Carter	RW/C	39
Ryan Carpenter	RW/C	33
Nicolas Aube-Kubel	RW	28	2y/1.53m
AJ Greer	W	27
Liam O'Brien	W	29
Chris Tierney	C	30
Mattias Janmark	W	31
Sam Gagner	RW/C	34
Brendan Smith	LD/RD	35
Eric Robinson	LW	29
Zach Parise	LW	39
Kevin Labanc	W	28	2y/1.94m
Fredrik Olofsson	C/LW	28
Alex Barre-Boulet	W	27
Matt Martin	W	35
Radim Zohorna	W	28
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare	C/LW	39
Tyler Pitlick	RW	32
Austin Watson	W	32
Tomas Nosek	LW/C	31
Jansen Harkins	LW	27
Rourke Chartier	C	28
Steven Lorentz	FW	28

Defensive Depth
Jack Johnson	LD	37
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Anthony Deangelo	RD	28	2y/1.80m
Jarred Tinordi	LD	32
Sebastian Aho	LD	28
Dakota Mermis	LD/RD	30
Jacob MacDonald	LD/RD	31
Dennis Gilbert	LD	27
Nikita Zaitsev	RD	32
Nick DeSimone	RD	29
Travis Dermott	LD/RD	27
Caleb Jones	LD/RD	27
Chad Ruhwedel	RD	34
William Lageson	LD/RD	28

Goaltenders
Cam Talbot	G	36	1y/1.89m
Ilya Samsonov	G	27	2y/3.26m
Alex Nedeljkovic	G	28	2y/2.00m
Kaapo Kahkonen	G	27	2y/2.93m
Scott Wedgewood	G	31	2y/1.57m
Casey DeSmith	G	32	1y/2.02m
Anthony Stolarz	G	30	2y/1.91m
James Reimar	G	36
Antti Raanta	G	35	1y/1.31m
David Rittich	G	31
Kevin Lankinen	G	29	1y/1.58m
Laurent Brossoit	G	31	2y/1.95m
Calvin Pickard	G	32
Martin Jones	G	34

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[arttk]

That’s an awful idea.

There’s no issue with bringing the group back, or at least the portions of it that work. We need to build on this team. And, a kid line? That’s not what I want to see for my 4th line at all.

Bringing this group back means status quo.
The weakness of this team is scoring depth, center depth and puck moving ability from the back. You spend the money to address those weakness first and then rely on pro scouting to unearth the same guys they did this past off season.

 

[arttk]

You'll have no idea how that will translate on the ice. Usually, teams in this position, build on something. Turning the group over outside of like 5 guys means you are just hoping it works out, you have no guarantee Tocchet will mesh with new guys, no guarantee on line chemistry, almost fully turning over the blue line. Like, do you think this has a high probability of success? If they could build on this team in some way I'd be far more optimistic.

I think it’s fine as long as the spine is still there, if we run Miller-Petey-Lindholm down the middle, they know what the system is and we just need to get 1 scoring winger and guys that has the attribute to play the role that toc wants. Probably we need a fast forechecker on every line so every line has 1 or 2 playmaker, 1 or 2 goal scorer and 1 guy that does all the dirty work.
On D, you already having Hughes and Souvy holding 2 pairs together. I think if we get Tanev then we will have an anchor for each pairing so I am not too worried.

 

[brock hughes007]

OUT:
Lafferty
Cole
DeSmith- its just Silovs is here to stay
Mik- trade him somehow


Hronek - less than 5m or trade him for assets

Re-sign: Zadorov

Myers - on the fence, check Free agency for better options first
Lindholm - if its reasonable cap hit then bring him back

EP - making too much for what he brought in the playoffs. If there's good deal available, canucks should be open to trading him

- Would like canucks to offer a package if B tkachuk is available.

Not showing up for game 7,this team has no excuses.Everyone needs to be evaluated.

 

[Canucks LB]

I’ll try to update the spreadsheet before the night is over.

Thanks man

 

[TruGr1t]

I think it’s fine as long as the spine is still there, if we run Miller-Petey-Lindholm down the middle, they know what the system is and we just need to get 1 scoring winger and guys that has the attribute to play the role that toc wants. Probably we need a fast forechecker on every line so every line has 1 or 2 playmaker, 1 or 2 goal scorer and 1 guy that does all the dirty work.
On D, you already having Hughes and Souvy holding 2 pairs together. I think if we get Tanev then we will have an anchor for each pairing so I am not too worried.

Again, that's fine in theory, but I doubt the numbers work (I haven't looked in detail). If you bring back Lindholm and Zadorov even, I doubt you can add scoring depth and address the blue line in any meaningful way (especially since bringing back Lindholm means no Hronek).

For the record, I would also try to keep those three centres together, but I'm not sure I see a path in that scenario to making the team meaningfully better. They don't have a lot of trade assets, and trying to improve a bunch of positions from free agency is a total crap shoot.

 

[TruKnyte]

This will be an interesting off season to follow. Will likely determine how realistic a window this core will have in the next 2-3 years.

 

[Flik]

We've a very exciting and meaningful offseason ahead of us!

Bring back Zadorov and Lindholm if possible.

Joshua was once a must sign, but he totally faded in the playoffs. Bring him back if he accepts a team friendly top 9 type contract.

Hronek was a complete no-show and while yes, he and Hughes were a great pair to start the season I feel like that was most likely because of Hughes leveling up to Norris worthy status. I'd only want to bring Hronek back if the cap hit is reasonable, say 6.25-7/year, otherwise gtfo with this 8x8 nonsense lol.

We've got our new back-up in Silovs next year, he can split starts with Demko.

Mikheyev has to be traded asap, attach whatever picks etc to get rid of that loser lol.

Improve the wings and get a bit of speed in the line-up if you can.

These are my drunken fantasy GM thoughts. Worthless I know.

 

[Luck 6]

I’d like to see Hronek back at a reasonable price. He had a pretty poor post season, and even his point totals are inflated by early season success. If he’s willing to accept 7mil I’d sign him long term, but I don’t really want to pay more than that.

Zadorov is a tough one… He’s a guy we should be looking to keep, his physicality in the playoffs is a game changer. I’m not sure I want to drastically over pay for him though. But ya, he’d be a guy that’s hard to let go. I’d probably pony up the 6x6 for him if I had to, but I’d try to see if we could get him at a slight discount….

Joshua is tough too. Good year, good first round, bad second round. We could try to lock him in for 4 years at something like 3mil. It’s a risky contract though… I’d probably take the risk…

Myers I would bring back at 3mil max. for maybe 2 years. He had a good season, and playoffs. And, it did seem advantageous having these big defensemen in the playoffs.

Blueger I would bring back at 2mil max. He was fine, but, I’m not giving him some big increase or anything.

I don’t think we can afford Lindholm. I’d love to bring him back, I just don’t see how. The only way would be if we find a way to move Mikheyev, which I think will be hard. And even then, I dunno, any high cap hit contract would be risky.

The rest can all go.

Bringing this group back means status quo.
The weakness of this team is scoring depth, center depth and puck moving ability from the back. You spend the money to address those weakness first and then rely on pro scouting to unearth the same guys they did this past off season.

I don’t think those were our weaknesses at all….

 

[Jerry the great]

AFP released their updated contract projections today. I have a lot of work updating my spreadsheets.

there are some pretty eyebrow raising projections. If someone gives Sean Monahan $5.3MM per on a 4 year deal i will be shocked.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Bringing this group back means status quo.
The weakness of this team is scoring depth, center depth and puck moving ability from the back. You spend the money to address those weakness first and then rely on pro scouting to unearth the same guys they did this past off season.

Icing a bunch of kids and hoping they figure it out is how you get Hoglander 1.0 who looked absolutely lost before mercifully being sent back down to work on his game. For all the justified criticism Willie D got, the one thing he did right was easing Horvat into minutes he earned by outplaying his competition instead of slotting him in because "he's the future once Henrik retires."

We really don't have kids that deserve a guaranteed spot on the roster right now, Podkolzin notwithstanding. Even he has a fair number of warts in his game. Bains looked completely out of his depth and Karlsson isn't much better. The only standout was, surprisingly, Aman.

Let the kids earn their spots and trade whoever they replace if or when that days arrives not before.

 

[arttk]

Again, that's fine in theory, but I doubt the numbers work (I haven't looked in detail). If you bring back Lindholm and Zadorov even, I doubt you can add scoring depth and address the blue line in any meaningful way (especially since bringing back Lindholm means no Hronek).

For the record, I would also try to keep those three centres together, but I'm not sure I see a path in that scenario to making the team meaningfully better. They don't have a lot of trade assets, and trying to improve a bunch of positions from free agency is a total crap shoot.

I think it can work if we don’t bring back Joshua and trade away Mik.
I know we fell in love with Zad but if he wants more than 4.5 then we just need to let him walk and we focus using that money to get Tanev back.
I think we need to run an Uber cheap 4th line with like Sasson/Bains, Aman, Pod.

 

[crazychimp]

That pp needs to be a worked on as well, entries setups etc. Hughes is such a dynamic player it would be interesting to see what a pp coach could do with him and this team.

 

[arttk]

Icing a bunch of kids and hoping they figure it out is how you get Hoglander 1.0 who looked absolutely lost before mercifully being sent back down to work on his game. For all the justified criticism Willie D got, the one thing he did right was easing Horvat into minutes he earned by outplaying his competition instead of slotting him in because "he's the future once Henrik retires."

We really don't have kids that deserve a guaranteed spot on the roster right now, Podkolzin notwithstanding. Even he has a fair number of warts in his game. Bains looked completely out of his depth and Karlsson isn't much better. The only standout was, surprisingly, Aman.

Let the kids earn their spots and trade whoever they replace if or when that days arrives not before.

Pod needs to play, Aman needs to play and he got some playoff experience and you both expect both of them to work on their bodies to get better.
I think it’s only bad if you ice them with no structure, the whole point about our coaching is they have super defined roles and a set way to play.
I mean yea there needs to be competition, nobody should be gifted. But you can get like a vet for 1M to compete for those spots and send him down to the A if the kids are better.

 

[Nuckler]

Also if hroneks ask is too high, I'd look to move him to the ducks for vatrano+ or the blues for buchnevik. Add some firepower

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Trade Hronek.

He rejected $6.5M per and I wouldn’t pay that atm.

Look at Anaheim or Utah for a package return.

 

[TruGr1t]

Official count:

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

i am fully ready for allvin to have a keyser soze summer

sell high on garland, hronek, and silovs, bring in cheap, fast young players who can contribute now and fill out the depth roles

myers gone, lafferty gone, cole gone, blueger gone, desmith gone, mikheyev probably here to stay

act decisively and lock up two or three of zadorov, lindholm, and joshua long before july 1 to less than we’d think

and with the cap space opened up, stun us all by filling out the team with guys we never would have imagined

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Hronek can f*** off. $8 million per my ass.

 

[Vector]

Updated the spreadsheet in the OP with updated AFP projections for Canucks' RFAs and upcoming UFAs.

Will update the rest of the UFAs and others teams capspace projections tomorrow.

 

[Szechwan]

Hronek can f*** off. $8 million per my ass.

Your ass is reporting contract details now?

 

[Diamonddog01]

there's like eight years of evidence zadorov isn't actually the player he's been the last six weeks. i don't mind signing him for 2-3 years but a contract with money and term is almost guaranteed to be an albatross

Yep. 6x6 is insanity. I’d go 4.5 AAV by 6 years and that’s being generous. He’ll most likely get that from a bottom feeder and I wish him the best.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I think who we bring back boils down to whether they want to build on what we started here or go out seeking their big payday. Can't blame them on the latter but that's where it all starts.

Zadorov is probably first on that list. If he has his heart set on 6x6, I just don't see a realistic way to make that work. Love what he brought, especially in the playoffs but his regular season left... something to be desired at times. We really can't get too caught up in a good playoff performance. I could be convinced of 5.5 but that feels like that absolute limit.

Hronek really cost himself money. A dreadful second half followed up by an even worse playoff performance should squish the slightest notion of 8M. Frankly, even 7M is a tough argument, and not necessarily one he'll win if we go to arbitration. I think the best case scenario for both us and him is a short term deal with a low caphit; probably at or around 7M.

Joshua is another who lost a good chunk of his bargaining position. He regressed hard after game 1 of the Nashville series. I'm hoping we can convince him to take under 3M but on a 6-7 year term. Basically, we assure him stability and he takes less to be apart of it. I'd let him go if he wants anything north of 3M.

Lindholm is another I would love to bring back but just don't see how we manage it. He is going to get offers, all of which are likely more than we can afford. My hard limit for him is roughly 7M or maybe very slightly higher.

Myers deserves another contract, so long as it comes cheap. Ironically, the best season he's played for us.

I'm fine with Blueger but not for much more than the 1.9M he currently makes. He'd be another "long term but cheap dollar amount" player for me.

The one major factor is Mikheyev cannot, understand any circumstance, don the Orca next season. I don't care if we punt our first away for literally nothing. I'll be livid if Allvin tries to spin any sort of "we want to work with him and feel he can bounce back." He can "bounce back" on San Jose.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Hronek can f*** off. $8 million per my ass.

I think the best thing would be a 1 year contract and play him 2nd pairing minutes. If he can carry a pairing and produce then maybe he's deserving of #2 money. He's a #3 that will be passed on the depth chart by Willander in a few years. Definitely can't afford to overpay guys who don't produce in the playoffs.

 

[arttk]

I think the best thing would be a 1 year contract and play him 2nd pairing minutes. If he can carry a pairing and produce then maybe he's deserving of #2 money. He's a #3 that will be passed on the depth chart by Willander in a few years. Definitely can't afford to overpay guys who don't produce in the playoffs.

Best would be 2 year

 

[mriswith]

This is the best offseason for ufa d and rumoured available loose ends in years. Perfect summer to remake the defense. We could walk into camp with an entirely new right side d and I'd love it.