That’s insane. Yes the San Jose game helped quite a bit, but that’s still a remarkable accomplishment. I don’t think we’ll ever start the season this way again.
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That’s insane. Yes the San Jose game helped quite a bit, but that’s still a remarkable accomplishment. I don’t think we’ll ever start the season this way again.
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To be fair, that has to be about the most frustrated group in the league at the moment with all the weight of expectation. When that boils over, no coach is going to be able to reel it in in real time.
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A player like JT Miller is so rare in todays game. He is one of the best power forwards in the game, if not the best one currently.
A player that can do it all. It’s incredible he’s actually getting better the older he gets. As long as he can remain healthy, he’s got another 8-10 years left in him. His drive and willingness to win will make sure of that.
There’s no doubt in my mind he’s the 2nd best player on our team right after Quinn Hughes. The decision to keep him over Horvat might truly be one of the greatest decisions this franchise has ever made.
A player that can do it all. It’s incredible he’s actually getting better the older he gets. As long as he can remain healthy, he’s got another 8-10 years left in him. His drive and willingness to win will make sure of that.
There’s no doubt in my mind he’s the 2nd best player on our team right after Quinn Hughes. The decision to keep him over Horvat might truly be one of the greatest decisions this franchise has ever made.
The talk all through camp in Oiler land was how they were going to implement a tighter defensive system. Not unlike the task canucks had. However, the canucks were working on this before the end of last season and if I was a betting man they gave players instructions on what to work on/video to watch over the off season so they were prepared for camp. The media was universal in it's praise of the canucks camp on how well prepared everyone was.
I also think the Oilers were looking at a Vegas type system (could be really wrong). Well that system only works if everyone buys in (the impact it had on vegas when Eichel finally bought in was big) and you actually have the talent through the entire lineup to pull it off. The Oilers don't have those things and if that is what they were trying to do it's a MASSIVE mis-evaluation by GM and coaching staff.
Until the Oilers get buy in from the leadership group instead of tantrums when things don't go their way they are not going to achieve anything.
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IMO a good coach is going to instill a sense of calm and confidence...if the weight of expectations is that high, and i'm sure it is, that's where your coaching needs to shine. Woodcroft called a timeout after the Canucks potted 3 quick goals against the run of play and there was no sense of "lets get back to work", even after they were gifted the Draisaitl goal...we still managed to eat them up in most facets of the game.
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Initially, I was really disappointed that we hired Tocchet...I didn't realize he was as sharp and nuanced as a person as he is...I never really saw much more than the TNT hockey panelist who just seemed like the "ex-tough guy". But boy was I wrong...but he has exactly the type of characteristics you want in a coach, has all the time in the world for skill but demands hard work and no cheating, tough but fair, you get second and third chances if your work ethic is there, but you don't if you're cheating...he's the kind of guy who gets buy-in because he demands it through respect. I'm not sure Woodcroft gets that type of respect.
McDavid isn't wrong. He's spot on. He's 26 right now. 27 in January. He can play another decade or dozen years in the NHL, but he can look over at Sid and see what Sid and the Pens have done since their last cup in 2017, which was 7 PO runs ago, just before he turned 30 after winning that Cup.
Plus their contractual situations, with Leon due up in 2025, but eligible for a new deal in 2024, and Connor a year behind him in both cases. If they have a similar year to last where they fall in the WCF, that's one thing and EDM has a legit shot at retaining both of them. Don't make the PO, all bets are off. And it becomes a chicken or egg situation. If they don't commit, no one of value is coming to join them. If they do commit, they've seen what Edm has done for them over their 9 years together, and there are no guarantees it actually gets any better.
Really looking forward to the Vegas - Canucks game.
You know both teams are gearing up for the match.
And I’m really curious to see how the Canucks fair against the top dog.
You know both teams are gearing up for the match.
And I’m really curious to see how the Canucks fair against the top dog.
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He said in a post-game interview that he was implementing the same defensive system as the Bruins. Let that sink in for a moment.
Happy to see the Oilers struggling, but by any objective measure, they should change coaches as a Hail Mary to re-boot the season. Daryl Sutter makes some sense.
I'm so excited for that. Taking my son to his first game. Hoping it will be a battle for first place!
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I'm hand slumping to the highlights rnLook at TSN's homepage.... you just love to see it
He is also ready to praise. very even keeled. How many times has he said post-game something to the effect of "We weren't doing X well but the guys were already saying it on the bench. I didn't have to say anything."
Bruins right not Vegas like I thought. The rest of the comments I made earlier still stand. And I'll add another...these are teams that have been bought in for multiple seasons. It's not something you can just turn on. The canucks are nowhere near perfect but are definitely learning because they have the buy in. The Oilers don't have that.
Sutter would be a massively bad fit for them I think. I understand he gets temporary good results but they need something way more than temporary.
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I've never seen a coach come in and just nail everything the way he has this year. Player relationships, ice-time, assistant coaches, media, etc. Just everything he's done has been seemingly masterful.
It wasn't very long ago but a lot of us were questioning the approach in training camp; too many wasted games. Media pointed out that the Canucks were doing a lot of special teams and systems work which is not typical for training camp.
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Yup...I went back and looked at who Tocchet's coaches were throughout his career and the guy has such a great foundation of coaching experiences to draw from, both good and bad...Scotty Bowman, Roger Nielsen, Mike Keenan, Larry Robinson....that kind of thing is pretty invaluable.
A loathsome team, front office, media, fanbase, and province. Well deserved.
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I didn’t like how the coaching change was handled last year, I thought we should tank (still would have liked to maximize that pick) and didn’t think that the foundation laid last year would carry over.
This has been a masterclass in success pulled from chaos. It’s hard to even believe what has been accomplished up to this point. The team has made a lot of changes, but the coach has been the most important one.
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this season oilers have changed from man on man and gone to the box zone defence system that vegas used last year. i read somewhere that it was a direct reaction to being repeatedly broken down on man on man coverage in the wcf by the knights.
Systems Analyst: Breaking down the Oilers' defensive zone coverage
Last week, Jay Woodcroft's defensive system was being questioned by fans left scratching their heads after a slow start. Today, Justin Bourne explains what the system is, with help from Andrew Brewer.
We went from a slow team to a fast team in just a couple of seasons. The bottom six especially just flies out there and the way that Hughes-Hronek move the puck so quickly up the ice is just ridiculous. Even Boeser looks faster. Aside from great results, this is just such a fun team to watch as they move up the ice so quickly getting odd man rushes regularly.
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why is McDavid such a grumpy, arrogant guy in interviews.... seriously...
