Friedman: Canes likely moving on from Necas.

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

On 32 thoughts Friedman said Carolina is unlikely to pay Necas what he's going to want on a new deal, if that's the case he's done in Carolina.

I can't help but wonder where he ends up.

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[Mrfenn92]

What’s he looking for?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

What’s he looking for?

To play center and get paid a lot

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

What’s with the obsession with Dundon? He’s spent to cap consistently since the 19-20 season. If Necas goes, it’s a hockey decision only.

 

[Chrispy]

What’s he looking for?

Looking at comparables on Carolina, I'm guessing he would want something similar to Svechnikov's 8y, $7.75M. Especially since a long-term deal would buy out more UFA years than it did for Svechnikov at 20 and the cap is only going up.

If Carolina has to choose how to allocate cap among Guentzel, Jarvis, and Necas, Necas could be the odd man out.

But he also should be able to return something Carolina would need this offseason (2C, top 4 RD) with more team control.

If the offer is picks & prospects, Carolina would be better served taking Necas to arbitration.

 

[duxfan1101]

I still think a deal around Ehlers could make sense for both sides.

The Ducks said they are looking for a right handed top 6 winger, so I can definitely see them having interest. My personal offer would be EDM 1st (likely pick #24) + LaCombe. The Ducks will not be the best trading parter for CAR if the Canes are looking for an immediate big NHL impact in the return, but LaCombe is a young LHD with second pair upside. And they can always flip the 1st if they want.

 

[Internazionale]

Would take him in SJ.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

He is wrong. Tom D has done nothing cheap. Just a troll narrative

I still think a deal around Ehlers could make sense for both sides.

The Ducks said they are looking for a right handed top 6 winger, so I can definitely see them having interest. My personal offer would be EDM 1st (likely pick #24) + LaCombe. The Ducks will not be the best trading parter for CAR if the Canes are looking for an immediate big NHL impact in the return, but LaCombe is a young LHD with second pair upside. And they can always flip the 1st if they want.

Ehlers doesn’t make any sense for the canes in a deal involving necas. Ehlers is an older version who has injury issues and has the same meh playoff performances

 

[spockBokk]

I still think a deal around Ehlers could make sense for both sides.

The Ducks said they are looking for a right handed top 6 winger, so I can definitely see them having interest. My personal offer would be EDM 1st (likely pick #24) + LaCombe. The Ducks will not be the best trading parter for CAR if the Canes are looking for an immediate big NHL impact in the return, but LaCombe is a young LHD with second pair upside. And they can always flip the 1st if they want.

1 year of Ehlers for Necas makes
zero sense for the Canes.

Ehlers makes some sense for them if they strike out with Guentzel, but I’d be shocked if they traded their biggest trade chip for a ufa to be.

 

[Scintillating10]

On 32 thoughts Friedman said Carolina is unlikely to pay Necas what he's going to want on a new deal, if that's the case he's done in Carolina.

I can't help but wonder where he ends up.

Habs be interested. We have Jets pick to dangle?

 

[spockBokk]

Habs be interested. We have Jets pick to dangle?

No sense in the Canes trading Necas for a late 1st in a weak draft. Try again.

 

[Beerz]

What are Canes needs?

Can start with 11th OA

 

[ecemleafs]

he looks like he would be a better center than a winger. hes got very impressive speed, size, and puck handling to carry pucks up ice and generate offense. i can see him putting up big numbers on another team that allows him to play in the middle.

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

Zacha and Pasta. Marty could make that a party. Linus goes to LA and things go to Canes.

 

[Scintillating10]

No sense in the Canes trading Necas for a late 1st in a weak draft. Try again.

How about one of our good young goalies. Netminding killed them in playoffs. Hard to part with one of them but could use Jets pick draft another

 

[Chan790]

What are Canes needs?

Can start with 11th OA

An NHL top-4 RHD or an NHL 2C or a comparable different style of wing, ideally more of a sniper or net-front presence (especially if we lose Guentzel in FA)...obviously we'd add onto Necas as the centerpiece for the goal-scorer.

Not interested in picks. You'd have to wow us to do specs. Don't bother offering Jokiharju...we've seen him play.

I like the Sabres as a trade partner, but expect this is a repeat of last offseason when we couldn't get Pesce to Buffalo done at the draft because Adams wouldn't part with roster players and we weren't interested in the futures offered.

 

[spockBokk]

What are Canes needs?

Can start with 11th OA

More like it.

Could see a base of this plus useful filler such as Jokiharju, etc. Not exactly immediate roster help, but cheap RD and a pick that they could flip for another player if they wanted to.

 

[Double Dion]

How about one of our good young goalies. Netminding killed them in playoffs. Hard to part with one of them but could use Jets pick draft another

What good young goalie? Montembeault? Career .898 goalie? 28 to start the season. Would you trade Suzuki for Dan Vladar?

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Necas you are an Duck

 

[Beerz]

An NHL top-4 RHD or an NHL 2C or a comparable different style of wing, ideally more of a sniper or net-front presence (especially if we lose Guentzel in FA)...obviously we'd add onto Necas as the centerpiece for the goal-scorer.

Not interested in picks. You'd have to wow us to do specs. Don't bother offering Jokiharju...we've seen him play.

I like the Sabres as a trade partner, but expect this is a repeat of last offseason when we couldn't get Pesce to Buffalo done at the draft because Adams wouldn't part with roster players and we weren't interested in the futures offered.

I thought it wasn't done because Pesce wouldn't waive?

Joker is our only RHD.

By your needs..there probably isn't a deal to be had.

 

[spockBokk]

How about one of our good young goalies. Netminding killed them in playoffs. Hard to part with one of them but could use Jets pick draft another

Nope, the Canes are set with goalie
prospects and have Kochetkov.

Necas isn’t available for scraps

 

[ViD]

CBJ should definitely look into this

 

[Chan790]

I thought it wasn't done because Pesce wouldn't waive?

Joker is our only RHD.

By your needs..there probably isn't a deal to be had.

That was after the draft IIRC. We tried to rush a trade in advance of the draft because his NTC kicked in at the draft.

The unstated background issue was likely that Buffalo wasn't going to offer what we were looking for if Pesce wouldn't extend with them.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Canes don’t have to make a binary choice here. They can leverage arbitration, be it a hearing or the threat of one, to effectively force him into a 1 year deal. Minnesota went that route with Fiala and it worked out well: he provided the desired value for the Wild in the 21-22 season and brought back a nice return in his last RFA summer.

 

[OVO16]

Screams Anaheim