C Mitchell Marner - London Knights, OHL (2015, 4th, TOR) III

[Brewsky]

With "Stupid Sexy" Nylander and Mitch "The Btch" Marner being a pesky offensive machine, all we need is the hockey luck to fall on the Leafs side for once for the 2016 NHL Draft.

AUSTON 3:16

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

what is everyone's projection as to Marner's PPG by season's end? 2.5? Could we see close to 3?

Somewhere between 2 and 2.5 ... imo closer to 2.5. Not 3...and I don't think more than 2.5. But I'm happy to be wrong!

Hunter keeps using Tkachuk, DVO, & Marner as the hotline which just blasts points...justifiably, they're great together...and they're exciting to watch...but I'd really like to see Marner spending more time at centre.

 

[leaflover]

Marner looked great at center. Plays a two-way game and MDC could have easily scored a couple tonight.

I know Leafs fans are hung up on getting Matthews too but if I were them I'd be pretty happy with Marner, Nylander and Kadri down the middle going forward. I see a couple potential 1st line centers and a very good 2nd line center there.

Mackenzie said on tonights Leafs telecast that scouts were quite impressed with Marner in that game, and not just a couple scouts by the sounds of it. Hearing that from professionals is music to my ears.

 

[93LEAFS]

Marner, Timashov, and Bracco are good bets.

Doubt Nylander goes. Kapanen is a coin flip, depends on the health of our Marlies forwards.

Both will most likely go due to agreements (that are supposed to be in place) and the fact if they let one go and not the other it will piss off the other association. Sometimes it helps to throw these associations a bone, it can help develop ties to get information for your scouts. Getting coaches to pass on whether a guy is ahead case or potential sleepers is a valuable tool.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Both will most likely go due to agreements (that are supposed to be in place) and the fact if they let one go and not the other it will piss off the other association. Sometimes it helps to throw these associations a bone, it can help develop ties to get information for your scouts. Getting coaches to pass on whether a guy is ahead case or potential sleepers is a valuable tool.

Then I'd keep both.

Nylander is too far along in his development for this tournament. He's a point per game guy in the AHL playing against men. Other 16-19 year olds are unlikely to provide much of a challenge outside of going up head to head against maybe a guy like Matthews.

 

[Stats01]

Nylander isn't going to the WJHC. I wish people would get off that idea, and no I have no info but come on..the kid has been there done that. We don't need him to go over..we get it he's talented. What he needs is to continue getting big minutes with the Marlies and developing his all around game.

Marner will be our main attraction to the WJHC and I think he's going to dominate

 

[Brock Radunske]

Nylander isn't going to the WJHC. I wish people would get off that idea, and no I have no info but come on..the kid has been there done that. We don't need him to go over..we get it he's talented. What he needs is to continue getting big minutes with the Marlies and developing his all around game.

Marner will be our main attraction to the WJHC and I think he's going to dominate

If Nylander was a CHL draftee, given the Leafs new stance on player development, he'd likely still be in juniors. I have zero issue with him going over there and destroying the best players in his age group that the world has to offer.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Nylander isn't going to the WJHC. I wish people would get off that idea, and no I have no info but come on..the kid has been there done that. We don't need him to go over..we get it he's talented. What he needs is to continue getting big minutes with the Marlies and developing his all around game.

Marner will be our main attraction to the WJHC and I think he's going to dominate

Nylander is ggonnna go jus you watch mister

 

[Shwaguy*]

If Nylander was a CHL draftee, given the Leafs new stance on player development, he'd likely still be in juniors. I have zero issue with him going over there and destroying the best players in his age group that the world has to offer.

If Nylander were a CHL Draftee he'd likely be in the NHL. Just like Marner is likely in the NHL next year.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Nylander isn't going to the WJHC. I wish people would get off that idea, and no I have no info but come on..the kid has been there done that. We don't need him to go over..we get it he's talented. What he needs is to continue getting big minutes with the Marlies and developing his all around game.

Marner will be our main attraction to the WJHC and I think he's going to dominate

If Nylander isn't on the Leafs by that time, he'll be there whether the Leafs want him to or not.

 

[The Beyonder]

If Nylander isn't on the Leafs by that time, he'll be there whether the Leafs want him to or not.

People keep saying that the the leafs don't have a say if he's on the marlies. Where are people getting this? Does this IIHF clause have a source? Seems to be some people think leafs have a choice while others don't.

 

[Stand Witness]

Mackenzie said on tonights Leafs telecast that scouts were quite impressed with Marner in that game, and not just a couple scouts by the sounds of it. Hearing that from professionals is music to my ears.

For what its worth you completely undersold what Bob was saying about Marner.

The words he used were wow and special, not impressive

 

[leaflover]

For what its worth you completely undersold what Bob was saying about Marner.

The words he used were wow and special, not impressive

On purpose.
I just found it odd that actual scouts who should be well versed about Marner would be wow'ed post draft.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

If Nylander isn't on the Leafs by that time, he'll be there whether the Leafs want him to or not.

Ya the only thing that matters is whether the Leafs want him to or not actually.

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

So all the famous posts by leafs fans are true.

You actually think playing meaningless ahl Hockey would gain him more experience then playing at an international tournament watched by millions? The pace at the world juniors is more highly contested and paced then most NHL games will hinder his development?

Weird.

 

[VictorLustig]

Marner is one of my favorite prospects, but plays like that will never work against NHL players.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Marner is one of my favorite prospects, but plays like that will never work against NHL players.

he's playing against palyers he's better than.

 

[Pyrophorus]

So all the famous posts by leafs fans are true.

You actually think playing meaningless ahl Hockey would gain him more experience then playing at an international tournament watched by millions? The pace at the world juniors is more highly contested and paced then most NHL games will hinder his development?

Weird.

We both know this at this point: He would cleave through those kids like butter. I'm not against it, and I'd love him to go-but this is the truth.

 

[rt]

Since he's playing in the OHL, it makes sense to play in a manner that is effective in the OHL. Does anyone feel differently?

 

[HockeyGuruPitka]

Marner has a ton of raw natural talent and once it all comes together, he will be a force in the NHL. However his lack of size is extremely noticeable right now. He is easily knocked off of the puck and at the NHL level i fear that he will be vulnerable to injury. Hes fine when he is skating and eluding defenders, however when the play slows down (Babcock's main system) he is unable to really fight for possession in the corners.

Definitely feel like he will need time adjusting to the system and will spend time with the Marlies. This is an example of a player that should be in the AHL right now, but the transfer from junior rules are really getting in the way.

 

[Woll Smoth]

Marner has a ton of raw natural talent and once it all comes together, he will be a force in the NHL. However his lack of size is extremely noticeable right now. He is easily knocked off of the puck and at the NHL level i fear that he will be vulnerable to injury. Hes fine when he is skating and eluding defenders, however when the play slows down (Babcock's main system) he is unable to really fight for possession in the corners.

Definitely feel like he will need time adjusting to the system and will spend time with the Marlies. This is an example of a player that should be in the AHL right now, but the transfer from junior rules are really getting in the way.

Mitch Marner is no longer 5'7 130lbs.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Marner has a ton of raw natural talent and once it all comes together, he will be a force in the NHL. However his lack of size is extremely noticeable right now. He is easily knocked off of the puck and at the NHL level i fear that he will be vulnerable to injury. Hes fine when he is skating and eluding defenders, however when the play slows down (Babcock's main system) he is unable to really fight for possession in the corners.

I thought Babcock kept saying that he's going use speed.

 

[HockeyGuruPitka]

Mitch Marner is no longer 5'7 130lbs.

As a center you need to support the play in the corners, at 160 hes just to slight.

 

[HockeyGuruPitka]

I thought Babcock kept saying that he's going use speed.

Speed within the system, which is to suffocate the play along the boards and grind it out via the cycle game.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Since he's playing in the OHL, it makes sense to play in a manner that is effective in the OHL. Does anyone feel differently?

Pretty much. I am sure Tarasenko, Lehtera, Malkin etc pulled off a bunch of moves in Europe that "wouldn't work in the NHL" but somehow they manage to do okay in the NHL. Who knew players could adapt?