Brooks: Goodenow out

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  1. mudcrutch79

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    Gretz and Mario are on the NHL Board of Governors? Whaaaat?

     
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    in the end money is going to make the deal...

    but not the NHL's.

    ESPN and advertisers are telling the NHL and the PA to "Put Up, AND Shut Up"
     
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    yeah they both own teams..
     
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    Good! Someone obviously needs to give both sides a reality check on just where their place is in the landscape of sports today. They want to wield some power again, they are going to have earn it. Right now, shut up and put a product on the ice or your done!!!
     
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    This would be great if true and I don't doubt Goodenow is on the verge of being overthrown. I'm still skeptical of the source though.
     
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    I don't believe the Board of Governors is the same entity as 'all NHL owners'. For an easy example I don't think Edmonton's 4,381 owners would fit in a board room.
     
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    Well-placed? This guy(or gal) better be hanging from Lemieux's bullocks for me to believe Brooks.
     
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    Brooks is a PA guy- if he is writing it, as much as I hate him, I have to believe it is true.
     
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    I'd have to beleive that too.


    I would think Ted Saskin would be at the top of the list to replace him. He seems to be in it for the players more than Goodenow ever was.
     
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    I kind of like the idea of former players leading both the NHLPA and the league. They can put some key "business types" in key roles below them but if there are leadership changes I hope both sides consider former players.

    So with that said I like the idea of Mike Gartner as the head of the NHLPA.
     
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    Technically, a current player (Linden) leads the NHLPA. Goodenow is simply its administrator, something he seems to have forgotten over the past few months.
     
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    Thats the way it should be. Bob Goodenow has addressed NO issues involved with player well being. Instigator Rule, Poor ice quality, Inconsistencies of Referees, Visors, and the Icing debacle which have led to an increase of unnecessary injuries.

    He's simply a CBA lawyer. Get rid of him you stupid players
     
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    The deal with ESPN along with Mario and Wayne are the final mediators for the purpose of the monospoly and union conflict and defintly should result in a deal.
     
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    wayne and mario won't let these talks die.

    Plus, they act as the link between players and owners. This war wasnt over until they got involved.
     
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    If anyone's less of a hockey guy than Gary Bettman, Saskin's gotta be close.

    That said, I have to agree with you. Saskin's been there for the players this whole time. For Christ sakes, when you're negotiating a CBA when your mother dies, you've got to be pretty committed to the cause.

    Goodenow just seemed like he has been in it to look like a genius again.
     
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    The comment about the players is pretty unwarranted, especially considering that Bettman is exactly what you accuse Goodenow of being. He is hardly a hockey guy...
     
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    I really don't think thats the case at all. He took a position he felt was best for the players, but foolishly, he refused to include a fall back position in his thinking. He chose a live by the sword die by the sword mentality, with no room for serious negotiation. His whole position was based on the owners lying and not being united. When they showed unity, his whole argument fell apart. Also, his whole argument was hurt by not bringing someone in to review the Leavit report. That is what actually killed his credibility!
     
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    Did you notice that BETTMAN is also out ... .???
     
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    but hes representing owners. Owners arent really hockey guys either. He just needs to know how to run the business end, and he obviously knows that.
     
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    For Bob it's probably quite easy to continue fighting for the best deal possible. The time frame doesn't affect him, he still makes his money. Those lawyers again, it's like getting a divorce they are still filling paperwork right up until you no longer have any money to fight different issues.
     
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    don't make this players vs. owners.

    Bob Goodenow hasnt been gung-ho for his players with issues on the ice, but rather a connossieur of deals when it comes down to dollars.
     
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    Pardon? The Commish doesn't need to know the hockey end of it? Ever think that that's exactly the reason the game has degenrerated into a clutch and grab fest with 20% of games ending in a tie?

    I would argue that the commish needs to be far more of ahockey person than the head of the NHLPA. THe NHLPA has ONE concern, the CBA, it is a Union, the Commish of hockey needs to govern every aspect of the game from CBA to marketing, rule enforcement and on-ice entertainment.

    Bettman has failed in almost every aspect. This CBA negotiation is pretty much his first big win in his tenure so far...
     
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    In reality the commisioner's office needs to be revamped. There needs to be a real hockey guy that can work above the fray of the owners and the players and have some relative independence of both [ala Gretzky]; but there still needs to be a role of COO that is more lawyerly that a person like Bettman fills, thats represent the owner's interest.
     
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