Brett Hull or Teemu Selanne?

[SeanMoneyHands]

Who was the better player?

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[bobholly39]

Hull for me. Better career/peak - much better in playoffs too.

 

[Regal]

I think Hull had the better career. He had the big peak and was healthier throughout his career, and while he was on much better teams he also has a much better playoff record. He won the Hart and Lindsay Selanne didn’t and has the same three seasons leading the league in goals. I think Selanne was probably better though. Better puck carrier, passer and overall play driver of the offense, while being a similar goalscorer. Despite the injuries, he has more seasons in the top 10 in scoring and 1 more season in the top 5 in goalscoring. And while his playoff record isn’t good, he didn’t get a lot of opportunity in his best seasons, and his great record in best on best tournaments makes me think it’s probably more sample size than anything.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Hull pretty easily.

 

[thadd]

Hull became a lot better later in his career, but he was much more 1 dimensional than Selane during the first half of his career.

It's a coin flip, imo.

 

[93gilmour93]

I think Selanne was the more talented of the two players but Brett was the better goal scorer for sure. Personally I liked Hull better as a player but I have to go with Temmu on this one

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

I would say Hull - and I’m a Ducks fan.

Hull was able to stay healthier and have a longer peak of a career than Selanne

 

[Plural]

I think Hull had the better career. He had the big peak and was healthier throughout his career, and while he was on much better teams he also has a much better playoff record. He won the Hart and Lindsay Selanne didn’t and has the same three seasons leading the league in goals. I think Selanne was probably better though. Better puck carrier, passer and overall play driver of the offense, while being a similar goalscorer. Despite the injuries, he has more seasons in the top 10 in scoring and 1 more season in the top 5 in goalscoring. And while his playoff record isn’t good, he didn’t get a lot of opportunity in his best seasons, and his great record in best on best tournaments makes me think it’s probably more sample size than anything.

Pretty much sums it up for me. Brett Hull is really close with Kurri. I think Teemu is a tad better than both.

 

[bsu]

Teemu by a hair

 

[Hockeyholic]

Hull. Not even close.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Selänne was a better overall player.

 

[Felidae]

Here's how they compare in award voting and stat finishes.

Selanne

Hart: 3, 5, 5, 6, 9, 13, 21

Points: 2, 2, 5, 5, 7, 8, 8

PPG: 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 8, 8

Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 10

GPG: 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 8



Hull

Hart: 1, 3, 3, 6, 23

Points: 2, 4, 5

PPG: 3, 5, 7, 9

Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 6, 8, 9, 10

GPG: 1, 1, 1, 4, 8, 9, 10


Selanne is the better overall offensive player and had the better prime. Both by significant margins. Hull's time as a high end point producer was very short while Selanne had nearly a decades worth of elite point production.

But Hull was a better goal scorer both in peak and prime, and in general had the better peak. Playoffs is also largely in his favour. A lot of that has to do with Selanne not playing much in the postseason during his best years. But credit where credit is due, Hull's goalscoring was just as good in the playoffs as it was in the regular season.

 

[centipede2233]

Here's how they compare in award voting and stat finishes.

Selanne

Hart: 3, 5, 5, 6, 9, 13, 21

Points: 2, 2, 5, 5, 7, 8, 8

PPG: 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 8, 8

Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 10

GPG: 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 8



Hull

Hart: 1, 3, 3, 6, 23

Points: 2, 4, 5

PPG: 3, 5, 7, 9

Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 6, 8, 9, 10

GPG: 1, 1, 1, 4, 8, 9, 10


Selanne is the better overall offensive player and had the better prime. Both by significant margins. Hull's time as a high end point producer was very short while Selanne had nearly a decades worth of elite point production.

But Hull was a better goal scorer both in peak and prime, and in general had the better peak. Playoffs is also largely in his favour. A lot of that has to do with Selanne not playing much in the postseason during his best years. But credit where credit is due, Hull's goalscoring was just as good in the playoffs as it was in the regular season.

And then you remembered Hull scored at a 40 goal pace for 3 seasons in Dallas with hitchcock in the D.P.E. And the remainder 3 yrs in Detroit in his 37-39 aged years at a 30-35 goal pace.

 

[Albatros]

Selänne overall, Hull was up there with Oates but otherwise never reached quite the same level. Hull had the better early 30s though whereas Selänne had become quite useless before his lockout recovery. But even regarding longevity Hull was completely done after that lockout whereas Selänne ultimately had quite a bit of gas left in the tank still in his 40s. Skills-wise Hull was an epic shooter and quite elusive, Selänne better at almost everything else.

 

[Dog]

I think if Selanne was on better teams it be not that close. I mean he played most his career with the Ducks. They had maybe 3-5 years where they were not terrible and that's it. Hull played for stacked team in Detroit and prior was on tough Stars team who won cup. Best player Selanne had for team-mate was Kariya.

 

[ScaredStreit]

Selanne had a great carrer, 1st ballot HOF and the whole nine. But Brett Hull had the better peak, career, and accomplishments. This is easily Hull.

I think if Selanne was on better teams it be not that close. I mean he played most his career with the Ducks. They had maybe 3-5 years where they were not terrible and that's it. Hull played for stacked team in Detroit and prior was on tough Stars team who won cup. Best player Selanne had for team-mate was Kariya.

If only Selanne had a star player on his line that he had great chemistry with during his time in Anaheim...

 

[Bluesguru]

I voted Hull but this is really closer than I thought when I look at Selanne’s numbers. I remember his year in Colorado was trash and he was declining but the rule changes after the lockout really helped revitalize him. Hull didn’t have that benefit. Even though Selanne was gold at age 40 and beyond, I still have to give Hull the edge.

Brett just didn’t score off that great shot of his, he scored a lot of goals in the trenches too and was great with the deflections.

Interesting to note, when comparing the 2, they both had 110 game winning goals and each had a shooting percentage of 15.1 and 15.2.

 

[Mulletman]

Teemu Selanne and Brett Hull are probably the 2 most underrated players in NHL history.

Fun fact, both Brett and Teemu started their career at 22 years old and they're number 1 and 2 in NHL career goals for all players if you look at stats after players turn 22. Ovechkin will probably pass them both once his career is over but still pretty impressive...

 

[Holymakinaw]

Selanne, for sure.

 

[GoldenSeal]

I’m going to get crucified by Blues fans here but I’m saying Teemu. He didn’t play in as many postseasons as Hull.

 

[Reality Czech]

Hull pretty easily.

Yep, it's a no brainer. I'm guessing the only reason Selanne is ahead because of the younguns on this site who never saw Hull play, especially in his prime.

 

[Plural]

Yep, it's a no brainer. I'm guessing the only reason Selanne is ahead because of the younguns on this site who never saw Hull play, especially in his prime.

HoH sub-forum (that has mostly history nerds and old timers) ranked Selanne quite clearly ahead of Hull in each of their collective rankings.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Heart says Selanne
Head says Hull

 

[Dutronc]

Teemu by a hair

Teemu had great hair

 

[Reality Czech]

HoH sub-forum (that has mostly history nerds and old timers) ranked Selanne quite clearly ahead of Hull in each of their collective rankings.

The only reason I can think to give Selanne the nod would be longevity. Hull has him beat in points per game (1.10 to 1.0), goals per game (.58 to .47), playoff points per game (.94 to .68). And I have nothing against Selanne, he is one of my favorite non-Blues of all time.