You re not the only one...imagine 2023-24 4mil total salary for this guy Sweeny was on something very strong substance when he signed him and ForbortNever understood how he got that contract in the first place.
Never understood how he got that contract in the first place.
He looked really good his first 20ish games with the Habs and then sucked complete ass.He was really good post trade deadline with Carlo. Years prior some guy named Seidenberg was on his fifth team at 28 years old and had only gotten an offer for a one year deal the summer before... and the Bruins gave him a 4x4 deal after 17 games post trade deadline. You win some, you lose some.
Anyone that saw him after he got traded to Boston in 2021 would find it easy to explain how he got re-signed that summer, but I'm not sure anyone could explain how he doubled his AAV.Never understood how he got that contract in the first place.
Same with the Bruins. We just paid double for that suckass.He looked really good his first 20ish games with the Habs and then sucked complete ass.
But yeah, sometimes a FA works out and sometimes they don't
They don't have to.The amount of needless freaking out from folks on the Bruins board over WHY HAVE THEY NOT BOUGHT OUT REILLY YET... well... I'm glad it's over and we can move on to the next needless freaking out.
TLDR; between the Hall trade and this, the Bruins are fine on their RFAs and icing a full roster next season. Of course, they can be a better team if they more properly allocate more cap space into their forward group, but they don't have to do anything stupid now.
Oregano and dirt, but he still pretends he's high.I wish someone would ask sweeney what the hell was he smoking when he handed that contract.
NHL number 6 defenseman?
Also takes the worst penalties, mostly retaliatoryHe is certainly an NHL defenseman, just not with 3 million in this environment. Good puck mover. Muffin shot but knows how to get it thru traffic. Muffin on puck battles.
Gave Forbort, I think a 3 Team NTC also.They don't have to.
But anything is possible with Sweeney.
Last time we had cap space, Sweeney signed Nick Foligno, Mike Reilly, and Derek Forbort to almost 10 million in cap space.
Boston Bruins Announce Free Agent Signings and Transactions | Boston Bruins
The Bruins announce signings of Ullmark, Foligno, Haula and more.www.nhl.com
Positive, Neutral, Negative
Ullmark -> 5M, overall, with Swayman on an ELC, this was a positive
Haula -> 2.35M Used to acquire Zacha (a player rumored to not be qualified anyways), I'll say signing alone neutral
Foligno -> 3.8M, like the player, hated the contract, mostly an unmovable contract due to (lack of) on ice contribution, Hate to say it, but from a contribution to cap hit ratio, this was negative by a long shot.
Reilly -> 3M, Ok, for a bottom pair guy, but in the same season, acquiring Lindholm making him dead weight and providence bound. Our biggest negative
Forbort -> 3M, see Lindholm/Reilly situation. I feel like we could have lived with one or the other, but acquiring Lindholm made the signing of Forbort or Reilly a cap curse. Neutral leaning towards negative.
Nosek -> 1.75M, adequate price for his role, could have gotten cheaper, but could have done worse. Neutral leaning towards positive
Adding in we had John Moore signed at 2.75M already (Gryz 3.7, Reilly 3, Forbort 3, and Moore 2.75 = 12.45) for 4 players to fill 3 positions.
We acquire Lindholm (good idea, but didn't jettison enough deadweight) (6.5, 3.7, 3, 3) = 16.2M on 4 players to fill 3 players
We didn't qualify Kase or Ritchie (whom we paid assets for), to sign Foligno at 3.8.
Foligno gave us 39 points in 124 games, .31 points per game. @ 3.8 cap hit
Kase scored 27 points in 51 games, .51 points per game, albeit injured most of one season) @ an average of 1.325 cap hit
Ritchie scored 49 points in 131 games, .37 points per game, @ 2.5 cap hit (between 2 teams)
So we gave up 2 players that may have not been a great fit here, and filled 2 roster spots with 1 guy that performed arguably worse than both of them. While I understand Foligno's locke rroom contribution, steep price to pay without the output to match the cap.
Sweeney doesn't blow his load on LD and makes better use of the 3.8 he spent on Foligno because "he had cap space to use", Bruins aren't in a bad cap position. ALL the while knowing we still have yet to find the answer to who plays C beyond Bergeron and Krejci years.
Bergeron/Krejci coming back on extremely discounted prices says more about their character than Sweeney's GM-ing skills, so save them (or one of them) bailing him out again, Sweeney actually has to play smart with his cap space.
Anyways, my point after this ramble, AS LONG AS Sweeney doesn't just create new mistakes with his now "free cap space", We should be ok. This off-season will be very telling if he's learned from his mistakes. Time will tell.
Forbort has been far better than Reilly ever was. He's a solid shutdown D,They don't have to.
But anything is possible with Sweeney.
Last time we had cap space, Sweeney signed Nick Foligno, Mike Reilly, and Derek Forbort to almost 10 million in cap space.
Boston Bruins Announce Free Agent Signings and Transactions | Boston Bruins
The Bruins announce signings of Ullmark, Foligno, Haula and more.www.nhl.com
Positive, Neutral, Negative
Ullmark -> 5M, overall, with Swayman on an ELC, this was a positive
Haula -> 2.35M Used to acquire Zacha (a player rumored to not be qualified anyways), I'll say signing alone neutral
Foligno -> 3.8M, like the player, hated the contract, mostly an unmovable contract due to (lack of) on ice contribution, Hate to say it, but from a contribution to cap hit ratio, this was negative by a long shot.
Reilly -> 3M, Ok, for a bottom pair guy, but in the same season, acquiring Lindholm making him dead weight and providence bound. Our biggest negative
Forbort -> 3M, see Lindholm/Reilly situation. I feel like we could have lived with one or the other, but acquiring Lindholm made the signing of Forbort or Reilly a cap curse. Neutral leaning towards negative.
Nosek -> 1.75M, adequate price for his role, could have gotten cheaper, but could have done worse. Neutral leaning towards positive
Adding in we had John Moore signed at 2.75M already (Gryz 3.7, Reilly 3, Forbort 3, and Moore 2.75 = 12.45) for 4 players to fill 3 positions.
We acquire Lindholm (good idea, but didn't jettison enough deadweight) (6.5, 3.7, 3, 3) = 16.2M on 4 players to fill 3 players
We didn't qualify Kase or Ritchie (whom we paid assets for), to sign Foligno at 3.8.
Foligno gave us 39 points in 124 games, .31 points per game. @ 3.8 cap hit
Kase scored 27 points in 51 games, .51 points per game, albeit injured most of one season) @ an average of 1.325 cap hit
Ritchie scored 49 points in 131 games, .37 points per game, @ 2.5 cap hit (between 2 teams)
So we gave up 2 players that may have not been a great fit here, and filled 2 roster spots with 1 guy that performed arguably worse than both of them. While I understand Foligno's locke rroom contribution, steep price to pay without the output to match the cap.
Sweeney doesn't blow his load on LD and makes better use of the 3.8 he spent on Foligno because "he had cap space to use", Bruins aren't in a bad cap position. ALL the while knowing we still have yet to find the answer to who plays C beyond Bergeron and Krejci years.
Bergeron/Krejci coming back on extremely discounted prices says more about their character than Sweeney's GM-ing skills, so save them (or one of them) bailing him out again, Sweeney actually has to play smart with his cap space.
Anyways, my point after this ramble, AS LONG AS Sweeney doesn't just create new mistakes with his now "free cap space", We should be ok. This off-season will be very telling if he's learned from his mistakes. Time will tell.