Jaybo is a much better damn then Gunner and much better on the PK. Not sure why you prefer him Gunner.
I also think Sobi bring back a couple of 2nd rounders. He is a can fit in any place in the line up at wing and center. Produc 30 points and has a decent contract.
Only reason to get rid of him is he is completely redundant with Berglund.
Bouwmeester is much much much better on the PK than Gunnarsson.No,Gunnar is easily better at PK then Jbo. I need to check stats Tomorrow (currently at mobile only), but I bet hits, blocks and takeaways favors Gunnar then Jbo. I'm not ofc 100% sure.
How does minutes played make him better? It just means he plays more.Bouwmeester is much much much better on the PK than Gunnarsson.
Since coming to the Blues in 2014-15, Gunnar has averaged 1:15, 2:01, 0:49, and 1:17 short handed minutes per game.
Since his first full season with the Blues in 2013-14, Bouwmeester has averaged 3:15, 2:49, 3:14, 2:59, and 2:10 short handed minutes per game.
Thought the numbers themselves would be striking enough to make the point, but perhaps I should have added more context.How does minutes played make him better? It just means he plays more.
That still doesn't provide any evidence as to who's better.Thought the numbers themselves would be striking enough to make the point, but perhaps I should have added more context.
Player A plays 2-3 times more short handed minutes than player B under two different coaches and over a 4-5 year sample size. One player played on the top PK unit, the other did not (again, for 4-5 years in a row under two different coaches). That really says it all IMO.
Suppose I could add that, per my eye test, Gunnarsson has been much worse on the PK than Bouwmeester for as long as both have been on the Blues.
You're comparing 1 player across 2 different teams. I'm comparing 2 players on the same team. Big difference there. Generally speaking, the players a team who are best in a given situation are played more often than other players on the same team who are not as good in a given situation. This is very simple logic. Coaches sometimes get it wrong, but they always try to get the best results possible. Why would 2 different coaches purposefully give a worse player 2-3 times more ice time on the PK for 4-5 consecutive years? We're talking about a large sample size, a significant difference in ice time, and multiple coaches making the decision.That still doesn't provide any evidence as to who's better.
Nate Schmidt spent 4 seasons in Washington and his highest ATOI was 18:42 in his rookie season. In 2016/2017 he averaged 15:29. His analytical data always suggested he was a top four defenseman with a lot more to give. Instead, he was stuck behind Orpik and Alzner who are both pretty bad.
Unsurprisingly he gets the opportunity to play in Vegas' top four and was fantastic all season and playoffs.
Ice time doesn't make a player good or bad. There's a number of players who should play more and who should play less around the NHL.
In this particular case your claiming a defenseman who was injured all year and look completely out of place in his short time with the team at 34 (will be 35 in September) is definitively better than a defenseman who was at least serviceable last season at 31. I just don't see how that's the case especially when your argument is based on essentially what went on two years ago and prior.
If the Blues have an opportunity to move Bouwmeester, you take it, regardless of what you get. His play has been diminishing for four seasons and last season he wasn't even an NHL caliber defenseman. Sure he battled through an injury, but I'd be weary of him returning to the lineup and being worth his cap hit when he hasn't been worth it since 2014-2015. Gunnarsson isn't worth the money to me either but his cap hit is lower and their pretty comparable in that neither of them really do much good out there so you may as well keep the more cost effective player.
Blues are closer to being a contender than we think. We already have the D to win the cup. Just look at Washington, we already have that skill and depth. At forward, after trading Stastny we are lacking 1st and 2nd line center. At goalie I think we are fine with Allen at least until the trade deadline. We have the prospects, picks, and cap space to make this offseason one of the best in blues history. We have generational talent in Petro, Tank, and Schwartz. Time for Armstrong to go build a cup winning team. If we can fill gaps up the middle we will be in good shape. Bring back statnsy to be 2nd center. Sign Tavares or Thornton and you have a cup contending team. If you can’t achieve goals through FA it’s time to deal some prospects for NHL skill. The window is still open for about 5 years and we need to hit it!
Bouwmeester is much much much better on the PK than Gunnarsson.
Since coming to the Blues in 2014-15, Gunnar has averaged 1:15, 2:01, 0:49, and 1:17 short handed minutes per game.
Since his first full season with the Blues in 2013-14, Bouwmeester has averaged 3:15, 2:49, 3:14, 2:59, and 2:10 short handed minutes per game.
Not sure if you knew this, but uh...Mikkola is Finnish.Mikkola who looked no where near ready to be an NHL player last camp or the Dman who was playing perfectly adequate top pairing minutes slightly over a year ago in the playoffs(where he doubled gunnars TOI btw). Yeah I know where I'd put my money on that one.
Not sure if you knew this, but uh...Mikkola is Finnish.
With the rumors that the Canucks looking to be active in trade market and them looking for a center to ease Pettersson into the lineup next year I think they could be an ideal target for a Patrik Berglund trade.
They hold the #37th pick in this years draft and if memory serves correctly have been interested in Berglund in the past.
Thoughts??
With the rumors that the Canucks looking to be active in trade market and them looking for a center to ease Pettersson into the lineup next year I think they could be an ideal target for a Patrik Berglund trade.
They hold the #37th pick in this years draft and if memory serves correctly have been interested in Berglund in the past.
Thoughts??