Best young Canadian talent for 2010

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by turnbuckle*, May 21, 2006.

  1. turnbuckle*

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    Considering the list of players who turned down a chance to play in the worlds and the youth of the team, the Canadians did quite well, and were only a couple of goals from the gold medal game. Carter, Bergeron and Crosby were strong for most of the tournament, and represent part of a strong up-and-coming base for future international competitions like the World Cup and Olympics.

    Here are some of the players 25 and under that will be in their primes or early primes in 2010.


    I listed 55 forwards.

    Nash
    Brule
    Picard
    Getzlaf
    Lupul
    Perry
    Richards
    Carter
    Downie
    Bergeron
    Boyes
    Spezza
    Heatley
    Fisher
    Staal
    Williams
    Ladd
    Torres
    Stoll
    MA Pouliot
    Cogliano
    Hartnell
    Upshall
    Bernier
    Cheechoo
    Setoguchi
    PM Bouchard
    B Pouliot
    Bolland
    Blunden
    Tambellini
    Comeau
    O'Marra
    Weiss
    Horton
    Wolski
    Richardson
    Kobasew
    Boyd
    Chipchura
    Latendresse
    Stajan
    Crosby
    Roy
    Comrie
    Zajac
    Bourret
    J Staal
    Toews
    Brassard
    Esposito
    Little
    Tavares
    Sheppard
    C. Stewart
    Cammellari


    There will likely be nine or ten players from the above list with a solid chance of making the Olympic team, along with vets like Thornton, Iginla, Marleau, Smyth, Gagne, Tanguay, etc.


    Here's a list of 20 defencemen 25 and under with the best chance of making the Canadian blueline in 2010. Out of this group, it would be realistic to be looking at 4 blueliners to join the likes of Regehr, Redden, Neidermayer, Jovanovski, etc.

    Jackman
    Phaneuf
    Schultz
    Boynton
    Hamhuis
    Morrisonn
    Bouwmeester
    Eminger
    Daley
    Coburn
    Seabrook
    Weber
    Barker
    Green
    Staal
    Bourdon
    Sanguinetti
    Wishart
    Parent
    Foster


    Out of the 14 goalies, one and perhaps two (doubtful) will stand a chance of breaking Canada's top three for the Olympics. I suspect Brodeur will stioll be at the top of his game, and Luongo will be in his goaltending prime. So we need to pick two goalies from this list:

    Auld
    Danis
    Leclaire
    Emery
    Ward
    Pogge
    Price
    LeNeveu
    Fleury
    Crawford
    Dubnyk
    Plante
    Vincent
    Schaefer

    10 forwards
    Four defencemen
    two goaltenders


    forwards

    Bergeron
    Spezza
    Heatley
    Nash
    Crosby
    Getzlaf
    Carter
    Richards
    Staal
    Horton

    defence

    Phaneuf
    Jackman
    Hamhuis
    Seabrook

    goalies

    Ward
    fleury

    I suspect the likes of Toews, Tavares, Brule and Brassard will be knocking hard on the door, and perhaps one of them will make the grade, most likely Toews if the team is looking for a solid all-around center for the team.

    I'm interested in seeing other people's projections on who they think are the 15 best young players with a shot of making the 2010 Canadian Olympic squad.
     
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    Luongo should still be able to play in 2010.
     
  3. Spetzky

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    Nash Thornton Bernier
    Heatley Spezza Marleau
    Tanguay E.Staal Crosby
    Ladd M.Richards Horton
    Bergeron


    Phaneuf Redden
    Bouwmeester Jackman
    Staal Regehr
    Barker

    Ward
    Fleury

    It's really hard to pick them even now.
    Those guys are great.
     
  4. What? Crosby on the third line in 5 years? You kidding me?
     
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    Not Canadian
     
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    Yo!

    16 minutes
    16 minutes
    16 minutes
    12 minutes

    Balance minutes for fresh legs :P
     
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    Bergeron will be ahead of Mike Richards and Bernier! In 2010 crosby will be by far the best player for Canada and on the top line getting the most minutes!
     
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    doesn't matter though, Crosby would not be on line 3, 1st line yes, not line 3
     
  9. turnbuckle*

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    I agree, and so should Brodeur. I also suspect that there might not be 10 of those forwards playing at the Olympics either when you consider some of the players they'll have to outplay, like Lecavalier, Richards, Thornton, Iginla, Gagne, Smyth, Marleau Tanguay, Kariya, Madden, Briere, Morrow, Doan, perhaps even St. Louis and Sakic.

    Likely goalies in Vancouver
    Brodeur
    Luongo
    ?

    Perhaps Ward? Time will tell; I'm hoping it will be Price by then. ;)

    Up front.... Lecavalier, Richards, Thornton, Iginla, Gagne, Smyth, Marleau and Sakic....I could see all of them still being under heavy consideration in three years time when the team is being picked.

    Veteran 7:

    Lecavalier
    Richards
    Thornton
    Iginla
    Gagne
    Smyth
    Sakic/Marleau (If Sakic says no)

    Sure bets:

    Staal
    Nash
    Crosby

    4 spots left:

    Spezza
    Heatley
    Bergeron
    Getzlaf
    Carter
    Richards
    Horton

    which four do you take? Time will tell; one thing is for sure, there will be plenty of tough decisions once again.


    I could see Heatley and Spezza having a shot at it along with Horton and Bergeron, leaving Carter, Richards, and Getzlaf to battle for spots in 2014. Tough choices to make, especially leaving off Carter and Richards. Given the national team's tendency to pick players with lnegthy Team Canada resumes, it wouldn't suprise me to see a Carter taken over a Horton if if Nathan is playing better at the time of the final selections.
     
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    Good point, wasn't under major consideration anyways. Anything else to add, or are you just in corrective mode?
     
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    And Tanguay, Ladd and Horton.

    I wonder if Thornton hasnt improved his big game ability he will be on the next Olympic team. Certainly last year's Olympics wasnt a great first impression.
     
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    I doubt you'll see anyone drafted this year or later on Team Canada 2010. No one appears to have the superstar ability that could push him onto the roster in their first or second season (which is liukely where they will be in terms of experience.)

    The team will be led by Crosby and Phaneuf will probably be the key defender.

    I expect Luongo to be the goalie. Of the people who were on this years team I expect Gagne, Iginla, Lecavalier, Richards, Nash, Heatley, Thornton and probably Smyth to be back. Joe Sakic will be 40 then and I could see him being on the team as well especially if Gretzky is in charge.

    I see there being 4-5 spots open for forwards. Staal will probably be there and Spezza might as well. I think the last spots will be filled by some combination of Lupul, Carter, Mike Richards, marleau and Bergeron.

    On defence I think:

    Phaneuf, Pronger, Niedermayer, Jovanovski, Bouwmeester, Redden, Regehr

    This team isn't as different as some other people think it will be but I can't justify saying that the team will be full of players who are current prospects or rookies this season. Team Canada will still favoour international experience and many of the yoounger members of this years Olympic team will still be prominent.
     
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    i agree with your post about the 7 veterans then the other 4 or so spots, i do believe carter could be in there probably not richards, not sure though i cant wait for it though

    USA has a lot of young talent in the past couple drafts and this one comming up, lots of defense, EJ, JJ, Sanguinetti, Brian Lee, Nigel Williams and others
     
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    Iginla-Crosby-Gagne
    Nash-Brad Richards-Lecavalier
    Bergeron-Staal-Heatley
    Carter-Speeza-Marleau
    Thornton

    Phaneuf-Niedermayer
    Bouwmeester-Regher
    Brewer-Pronger
    Bourdon

    Brodeur
    Luongo
    Fleury


    I know most people would argue with putting Bergeron ahead of guys like Cheechoo, Lupul, Getzlaf, Bernier, Horton......but he's a proven performer on the international stage......

    These lines don't necessarily reflect the players' talent.....Marleau and Speeza being on the 3rd-4th line doesn't mean they're worst players than Heatley, Gagne or Bergeron.....it's all a question of balance and chemistry......

    It's hard to get on that team if you're a center.......so you gotta be ready to play on the wing (just like Lecavalier always does on the international level).....Crosby, Brad Richards and Staal have to get the automatic top 3 center positions.....we won't make the same mistake 2 Olympics in a row....Speeza might not be there if guys like Tanguay, Thornton or others have better seasons that year.....

    Brad Richards should have the C on his jersey....Gretzky pretty much hinted to the fact that in the future, they might turn to him for leadership role......Gretzky nevers says something unless there's something to it......
    Other possibilities: Niedermayer


    The problem with this team is that a lot of these players have awesome regular seasons but DON'T SHOW UP during these international tournaments.....Thornton, Marleau, Heatley.....

    As for goalies, if Brodeur steps down, Luongo gets the starting job....he's been there as part of the Team for a while now, even if other goalies have better seasons that year, he'll still get the starting job (like Brodeur this year, even though he had a bad first part of the season)....
     
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    Cheechoo anyone?

    I don't know how a guy who just wins the Rocket Richard Trophy with 56 goals, doesn't even make the list of anyone yet?

    I know it's 4 years from now, but if Joe Thornton is named to any Team Canada, I would guess Jonathan Cheechoo would also be named. Alot of things can change from now until 2010, but speaking as of today, Thornton and Cheechoo would be no brainers!

    I also like guys like, Briere, Savard, Stoll, etc. There are just so many guys available when looking 4 years down the road, it's impossible to put together a team right now!
     
  16. da_pope*

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    Iggy will captian Team Canada in 2010.
    He'll only be 30 what... 32?
     
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    He had a chance to prove he could this year...didn't happen.
     
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    I can't see Iggy passing Richards for Captain spot.......Richards will get it if it's not Niedermayer.....Richards has leadership/captain written all over him....

    Plus, someone has to say it: Iggy has done sh*t for Canada since winning gold in 2002.....and unlike playing for Calgary, when he plays for Canada, we can't blame his poor play on his poor quality linemates.....


    Don't get me wrong, Iggy is one of the most complete and one of the best player on this planet......but in 4 years I see Richards as having a bigger role in terms of leadership....

    Iggy however will still be the go-to-guy on offense......let's hope him, Thornton, and Healtey finally decide to show up this time.... :teach:
     
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    Brodeur will step down imo...

    Luongo
    Fleury

    The better goalie wins the number 1 spot obviously. I wouldn't mind Heatley playing along side Crosby, that will be too dangerous to handle...add in Bergeron if he can play RW and that line will dominate the scoring. If Cheechoo and Thornton still have the same chemistry last season till the olympics they can make up second line for sure.
     
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    But he was good in last year`s world championship.
     
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    You mean the World Cup on the checking line? Yea, he played very well. To me though, he was one of the reasons Team Canada underperformed in the Olympics. I thought he was pretty bad overall and it will be interesting to see if Canada relies on the old boy network in 2010 or if they really select the best players....I think we can agree they certainly didnt do that last year.
     
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    it's pretty crazy that they left off three 100 pt caliber players in crosby, staal, and spezza.
     
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    Good point. I forgot about Cheechoo. I think it would be wise to look at including the Thornton/Cheechoo tandem on Team Canada.
     
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    All these lines are basically 1st lines. At tourneys like these it's better not even to give them 1st, 2nd etc line titles because it's really not the case.
     
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    I think a guy like Fisher would be a great fit as well! The guy just plays hard all the time, can skate, plays physical, excellent defensively and can also bury the biscuit when he gets a chance!
     

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