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1990-present only
I would say the 03 Devils are a pretty solid #1 but who is #2?
I would say the 03 Devils are a pretty solid #1 but who is #2?
1990-present only
I would say the 03 Devils are a pretty solid #1 but who is #2?
04 Devils.
1990-present only
I would say the 03 Devils are a pretty solid #1 but who is #2?
1990-present only
I would say the 03 Devils are a pretty solid #1 but who is #2?
'99 stars. derian hatcher was their leader, two of the greatest shotblockers i've seen in matvichuk and ludwig. zubov and sydor on the PP. and shawn chambers, a pretty forgotten guy but he was a pretty useful role player on a number of winning bluelines.
carbonneau, lehtinen, modano... keaner... skrudland... nieuwendyk winning tough draws... grinders like dave reid and grant marshall, and all with ken hitchcock and doug jarvis behind the bench.
two selke winners up front and another on the bench. ridiculous.
Dallas would be my pick as well.
2003-04 Devils played Pat Burns hockey with lots of defensively responsible forwards, but their blueline past Niedermayer was nothing special once Stevens was forced to sit out.
The 1997 Wings with Fetisov-Konstantinov and Lidstrom-Murphy are up there, but in terms of pure team defense, I would pick the Lemaire-era Devils and Hitchcock-era stars over them. Detroit was defense-first, but was more balanced.
TDDM, i'm curious: do you think '03 was the best devils defence (counting the whole team/coaching strategy, not just the six guys on the blueline)?
or did it just seem like the best one defensively because the offence was so thin?
i look at 2000: scott stevens is better in '00 and '03, niedermayer is not quite niedermayer, and rafalski and white are relatively green, but daneyko is much better. up front you still have madden and pando, plus holik and claude, and nemchinov (i don't remember him at all from that year, but he was very good defensively earlier in his career) and mckay is still there. it was a more run and gun team under robinson, but i remember that team being very tough to score on; i feel like all of their opponents stopped scoring at all a couple games into each series.
or '95: claude lemieux again at his shadowy best, carpenter completely reinventing himself, broten, young holik with mckay grinding it out... plus lemaire.
i'll say though that among all contenders, it has to be a devils team at the top because marty was part of the team defence. most goalies prevent goals and are, of course, extremely important defensively. but marty was the only guy who consistently stopped offenses before they could create shots, which is really something else.
I think 2002-03 was the best defensive team if you look at both regular season and playoffs. 1996-97 was probably the height of their defensive dominance in the regular season, and 1994-95 was just a dominant playoff run. But if we're just looking at dominant playoff runs, the 2011-12 Kings are up their in terms of team defense.
The 1999-2000 Devils had the best roster, but they were coached to be a more balanced team than a defensive one.
just looking at the stats, can you say why the '03 allowed so many more shots than the '00 team (and, on a per game basis, also the '95 team)? GAA looks pretty similar all three years and so brodeur's save percentage is insane in '03-- i don't remember if he faced a lot of long, easy shots like thomas against the canucks in '11, where the bruins' excellent team defense kept the canucks almost completely on the perimeter but still averaged more than 35 shots against a game.